Riley Cooper sorry for racial slur

[HomerJS]

Because I hate hypocrisy and having black people (and other minions) all up in arms when a white man uses a word that the black community uses all the time, is hypocritical.

It bothers me that a white man and a black man could be standing next to each other, both say the exact same sentence (with the N-word), with the exact same intent and intonation, and, regardless of any other factors, one would be ostracized by society while the other would not register at all.

MotionMan

Know what bothers me more?

It bothers me that a white man and a black man could be driving the exact same car, drive the same way, with the exact same intent and, regardless of any other factors, one would be pulled over by the police while the other would not register at all.

 

[MotionMan]

Yes.

But the usage by non-blacks in non-derogatory or less-derogatory ways are so limited and never in the public eye/used by celebrities. There are no universal laws here...I think you're trying to fight a battle that doesn't exist

I hear black people call others the N-word all the time.

I was in a Carls Jr. near the LA Coliseum a few weekends ago (swim meet) and heard it a bunch of times. In fact, I was called a N-word for not giving a bum my change.

Is this really some sort of secret?

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

Know what bothers me more?

It bothers me that a white man and a black man could be driving the exact same car, drive the same way, with the exact same intent and, regardless of any other factors, one would be pulled over by the police while the other would not register at all.

I was once pulled over because the cop had allegedly seen me flick a cig out of the passenger side window. A few problems: I do not smoke, the passenger side window was up and it was a crank window, so I did not have the time or opportunity to roll it up.

I was clearly pulled over because I was driving a crappy car in a nice neighborhood (I was in school at the time and was on my way home from babysitting for a rich family).

It happens to white people, too.

MotionMan

 

[dank69]

The reason why it was the exception that proves the rule is that, in his comedy act, he was using the fact that a white person using the N-word is shocking/not allowed to make his joke. People did not get upset (exception to the rule) because they got the joke (context). It is much like your statement that it is ok for a white person to use the N-word when discussing the N-word.

If it was not the rule, and without the exception, the joke would not be funny. Thus, the exception proved the rule.

MotionMan

Does Lisa Lampanelli's use of the word "prove the rule" as well?


All that Artie's segment proves is that it is possible for a white person to use the word without offending a black person. It disproves the rule.

 

[slayer202]

I hear black people call others the N-word all the time.

I was in a Carls Jr. near the LA Coliseum a few weekends ago (swim meet) and heard it a bunch of times. In fact, I was called a N-word for not giving a bum my change.

Is this really some sort of secret?

MotionMan

you are not understanding. or you choose not to understand. either way, I'm done

 

[QueBert]

Does Lisa Lampanelli's use of the word "prove the rule" as well?


All that Artie's segment proves is that it is possible for a white person to use the word without offending a black person. It disproves the rule.

There's no use trying to explain shit to him, he just attempted to disprove racial profiling by the police with his story of being pulled over and not being black.

 

[purbeast0]

i think we all now know that MotionMan has the biggest dick in this thread.

 

[MotionMan]

There's a book sitting on my end table by my couch called Without Sanctuary, it's full of pictures from the 1900's of black people being lynched. It shows post cards that were made out of these pics, it shows white people having parties while there are black people hanging directly behind them. Some were set on fire, I'm imagine probably while still alive. While I'm sure you'd love to apply your desire here and dig up a few random news stories of white people being called a cracka while they were killed by black people. I assure you, there's no possible way the 2 situations are anywhere near comparable.

I disagree, but I will let you go on believing what you want.

And while you have to be trolling, I'll play along like you're being serious. I've never heard the word beloved patriot used by a non racist person. Please point me to examples of non racist people using it in every day conversations in a non racial way. beloved patriot isn't an acceptable word to use, if you think otherwise I don't know what to tell you exactly.

So the N-word can be used by non-racist people? In what context OTHER than discussing the word?

Can you call a person a N-word and not be racist?

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

you are not understanding. or you choose not to understand. either way, I'm done

What are you trying to say?

My point is that we are told that the N-word is this terrible thing. Yet, we all know that blacks use this terrible, terrible word all the time.

Do you not see this as hypocritical?

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

There's no use trying to explain shit to him, he just attempted to disprove racial profiling by the police with his story of being pulled over and not being black.

If you could explain your position in a way that makes sense, it may make things easier.

So far, it seems like everyone wants to ignore the hypocrisy of the double-standard regarding the N-word.

In fact, not one person has even admitted that the double-standard exists.

MotionMan

 

[QueBert]

What are you trying to say?

My point is that we are told that the N-word is this terrible thing. Yet, we all know that blacks use this terrible, terrible word all the time.

Do you not see this as hypocritical?

MotionMan

I was always taught it's a terrible thing for white people to say to black people. Also, not that you'll believe me, but a good number of black people never use the word, they find it offensive as hell. Yes, even when it's another black person using it. Neither of us have any numbers here, but I'm sure you'll use rap music + the encounter you had at Carl Jr's to proclaim that the majority of black people use the word multiple times per sentence.

If you could explain your position in a way that makes sense, it may make things easier.

So far, it seems like everyone wants to ignore the hypocrisy of the double-standard regarding the N-word.

In fact, not one person has even admitted that the double-standard exists.

MotionMan

I can't call a gay person a i love you, but gay people are free to call each other fags all day. Double Standard not found sorry...

 

[dank69]

What are you trying to say?

My point is that we are told that the N-word is this terrible thing. Yet, we all know that blacks use this terrible, terrible word all the time.

Do you not see this as hypocritical?

MotionMan

It's a word. It isn't terrible. It can be offensive. It is up to every individual to choose whether or not to be offended by it. Maybe you just don't understand why people are offended by it. Have you considered this? It seems like you really don't have any grasp on it.

 

[Blackjack200]

I was once pulled over because the cop had allegedly seen me flick a cig out of the passenger side window. A few problems: I do not smoke, the passenger side window was up and it was a crank window, so I did not have the time or opportunity to roll it up.

I was clearly pulled over because I was driving a crappy car in a nice neighborhood (I was in school at the time and was on my way home from babysitting for a rich family).

It happens to white people, too.

MotionMan

I don't know where you're going with this shit, but it might very well be true that most "profiling" stops have more to do with class than race. The problem is that black people are disproportionately poor. So an explanation of "you're not being being targeted by your skin color, you're being targeted by an economic status that afflicts an outsize proportion of people sharing your skin color" is not terribly comforting.

Then of course, you have the wealthy blacks that are pulled over anyway, because they're uppity for driving their Benz around, which blows the whole argument out of the water.

 

[MotionMan]

I was always taught it's a terrible thing for white people to say to black people. Also, not that you'll believe me, but the a good number of black people never use the word, they find it offensive as hell. Yes, even when it's a black person using it. Neither of us have any numbers here, but I'm sure you'll use rap music + the encounter you had at Carl Jr's to proclaim that the majority of black people use the word multiple times per sentence.

I have no doubt that blacks in different socio-econimic positions use it a differing amount. However, I have heard it from some very rich, very famous, non-rap, blacks speaking to each other, in addition to my friends at the Carls Jr.

I also grew up in a black/Pilipino neighborhood, so I have some experience from that, too.

It is prevalent and accepted.

MotionMan

 

[KeithTalent]

Why don't you make a point instead of asking inept questions?

You do realize he's a lawyer right? 😀

KT

 

[MotionMan]

It's a word. It isn't terrible. It can be offensive. It is up to every individual to choose whether or not to be offended by it. maybe you just don't understand why people are offended by it. Have you considered this? It seems like you really don't have any grasp on it.

I know why they are offended by it. What makes you think I don't?

MotionMan

 

[QueBert]

I have no doubt that blacks in different socio-econimic positions use it a differing amount. However, I have heard it from some very rich, very famous, non-rap, blacks speaking to each other, in addition to my friends at the Carls Jr.

I also grew up in a black/Pilipino neighborhood, so I have some experience from that, too.

It is prevalent and accepted.

MotionMan

White people can use it though, there's a battle rap league called URL, it's the largest in the country. It's full of black rappers, but there's a white rapper who's prevalent in it and he uses the N word fairly frequently in his battles. He doesn't know all the black people, yet he's able to say the word over and over and nothing happens to him.

His name's Money Bagz look him up on Youtube, and there you go a white person who's able to say the word you want to say when he's around literally nothing but black people.

 

[Blackjack200]

I have no doubt that blacks in different socio-econimic positions use it a differing amount. However, I have heard it from some very rich, very famous, non-rap, blacks speaking to each other, in addition to my friends at the Carls Jr.

I also grew up in a black/Pilipino neighborhood, so I have some experience from that, too.

It is prevalent and accepted.

MotionMan

I have never heard it come out of anyone's mouth, white or black, it in any professional setting.

 

[MotionMan]

I don't know where you're going with this shit, but it might very well be true that most "profiling" stops have more to do with class than race. The problem is that black people are disproportionately poor. So an explanation of "you're not being being targeted by your skin color, you're being targeted by an economic status that afflicts an outsize proportion of people sharing your skin color" is not terribly comforting.

Then of course, you have the wealthy blacks that are pulled over anyway, because they're uppity for driving their Benz around, which blows the whole argument out of the water.

A black man driving a nice car in a white neighborhood seems out of the ordinary.

I am not saying it is right, but that is the reason.

MotionMan

 

[dank69]

I know why they are offended by it. What makes you think I don't?

MotionMan

The fact that you think you know what it is like to be a black American tells me all I need to know about you.

 

[MotionMan]

White people can use it though, there's a battle rap league called URL, it's the largest in the country. It's full of black rappers, but there's a white rapper who's prevalent in it and he uses the N word fairly frequently in his battles. He doesn't know all the black people, yet he's able to say the word over and over and nothing happens to him.

His name's Money Bagz look him up on Youtube, and there you go a white person who's able to say the word you want to say when he's around literally nothing but black people.

OK, so me getting pulled over as a white person disproves the racial profiling argument.

Perfect.

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

I have never heard it come out of anyone's mouth, white or black, it in any professional setting.

I did not say it was in a professional setting.

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

The fact that you think you know what it is like to be a black American tells me all I need to know about you.

Where did I say that I think I know what it is like to be a black American?

MotionMan

 

[Atomic Playboy]

What are you arguing for MotionMan? Are you upset because you can't use the word without being labeled a racist, or are you advocating that black people stop using the word with other black people?

 

[Blackjack200]

A black man driving a nice car in a white neighborhood seems out of the ordinary.

I am not saying it is right, but that is the reason.

MotionMan

Given that that situation exists, don't you think it makes sense to take extra care not to use words that are profoundly demeaning and insulting, and are rooted in an era where some men owned other men?