Rights when police officer asks for id

[moomoo40moo]

Originally posted by: wetcat007

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: mugs
So basically you lied to us (or purposefully withheld the truth). You're a douchebag.

Sort of like he did to the cops.

Yes, the cop can ask you for your ID. Yes, you are supposed to give it to them.

Just out of curiosity, what happens to the few who don't have a drivers license/state ID? There's no laws yet to my knowledge that it's required of you, unless you're driving a car of course..

what I have gathered is that they will ask for your name, age and address and compare it to police records... my next question would probably be, is there a photo when they pull that info up on their computers?

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I don't see that it was obtained illegally. Your friend got it out of the car and gave it to you. Then you gave it to the officer. I think in some states its illegal to not report a fake ID, and so the officer taking it likely is not breaking any law (and in fact you likely were by having it). Be thankful they didn't take you back to the police station and either call your parents (if you're under 18) or arrest you.

the cop opening the car without owners consent is illegal, and thus all subsequent evidence seized is suppressed...

That doesn't mean they'll be getting the fake ID back, though. 😛

 

[imported_stev]

Do you actually expect help after lying about the situation?

I say it's time for everyone to move on to another thread. Just my $0.02.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I don't see that it was obtained illegally. Your friend got it out of the car and gave it to you. Then you gave it to the officer. I think in some states its illegal to not report a fake ID, and so the officer taking it likely is not breaking any law (and in fact you likely were by having it). Be thankful they didn't take you back to the police station and either call your parents (if you're under 18) or arrest you.

the cop opening the car without owners consent is illegal, and thus all subsequent evidence seized is suppressed...

That doesn't mean they'll be getting the fake ID back, though. 😛

this is true, but if I were in OP's shoes, I would be more concerned about legal action than getting the ID back

 

[moomoo40moo]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I don't see that it was obtained illegally. Your friend got it out of the car and gave it to you. Then you gave it to the officer. I think in some states its illegal to not report a fake ID, and so the officer taking it likely is not breaking any law (and in fact you likely were by having it). Be thankful they didn't take you back to the police station and either call your parents (if you're under 18) or arrest you.

the cop opening the car without owners consent is illegal, and thus all subsequent evidence seized is suppressed...

That doesn't mean they'll be getting the fake ID back, though. 😛

this is true, but if I were in OP's shoes, I would be more concerned about legal action than getting the ID back

i'm hoping to get it dropped, didn't think at all i would get the id back.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I don't see that it was obtained illegally. Your friend got it out of the car and gave it to you. Then you gave it to the officer. I think in some states its illegal to not report a fake ID, and so the officer taking it likely is not breaking any law (and in fact you likely were by having it). Be thankful they didn't take you back to the police station and either call your parents (if you're under 18) or arrest you.

the cop opening the car without owners consent is illegal, and thus all subsequent evidence seized is suppressed...

That doesn't mean they'll be getting the fake ID back, though. 😛

this is true, but if I were in OP's shoes, I would be more concerned about legal action than getting the ID back

i'm hoping to get it dropped, didn't think at all i would get the id back.

its illegal search and seizure the way I see it...

 

[moomoo40moo]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I don't see that it was obtained illegally. Your friend got it out of the car and gave it to you. Then you gave it to the officer. I think in some states its illegal to not report a fake ID, and so the officer taking it likely is not breaking any law (and in fact you likely were by having it). Be thankful they didn't take you back to the police station and either call your parents (if you're under 18) or arrest you.

the cop opening the car without owners consent is illegal, and thus all subsequent evidence seized is suppressed...

That doesn't mean they'll be getting the fake ID back, though. 😛

this is true, but if I were in OP's shoes, I would be more concerned about legal action than getting the ID back

i'm hoping to get it dropped, didn't think at all i would get the id back.

its illegal search and seizure the way I see it...

thats what i was thinking too. it did make me kind of uneasy that the cop was saying that I said it was my car. I have 3 witnesses but I wonder if theres a mic on the outside of their police car

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I don't see that it was obtained illegally. Your friend got it out of the car and gave it to you. Then you gave it to the officer. I think in some states its illegal to not report a fake ID, and so the officer taking it likely is not breaking any law (and in fact you likely were by having it). Be thankful they didn't take you back to the police station and either call your parents (if you're under 18) or arrest you.

the cop opening the car without owners consent is illegal, and thus all subsequent evidence seized is suppressed...

That doesn't mean they'll be getting the fake ID back, though. 😛

this is true, but if I were in OP's shoes, I would be more concerned about legal action than getting the ID back

i'm hoping to get it dropped, didn't think at all i would get the id back.

its illegal search and seizure the way I see it...

True. The OP still has done a lot of things wrong, but if you push this the right way you could get things resolved. Of course a nice lawyer would be nice too, but of course what do I know?

Once again stop being so harsh on the OP. If he left out hte details about the fake ID it's because he didn't want to admit guilt online before dealing with legal consequences.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo
i'm trying to look at it from more of a legal standpoint sorry for leaving that out of the first post

you don`t hav any legal recourse!!

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I don't see that it was obtained illegally. Your friend got it out of the car and gave it to you. Then you gave it to the officer. I think in some states its illegal to not report a fake ID, and so the officer taking it likely is not breaking any law (and in fact you likely were by having it). Be thankful they didn't take you back to the police station and either call your parents (if you're under 18) or arrest you.

the cop opening the car without owners consent is illegal, and thus all subsequent evidence seized is suppressed...

That doesn't mean they'll be getting the fake ID back, though. 😛

this is true, but if I were in OP's shoes, I would be more concerned about legal action than getting the ID back

i'm hoping to get it dropped, didn't think at all i would get the id back.

its illegal search and seizure the way I see it...

But no telling if the OP is telling us the truth about all of them saying it was someone else's car. Plus remember they supposedly convinced the cop to open the car by saying their friends were lost.

Why would it be dismissed, if the person who actually owns the wallet regained posession and then handed it to the cop. The cop did not go through the car and find the wallet, nor is he the one who got it out of the car.

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo
As my friend tosses me my wallet from the car, the officer asks me for my id. I said that I did not have it in my wallet at the time. (I had kept in my own car for the day not wanting to take it canoing) He says how his son can lie better than that and how can I not have my id in that fat wallet of mine.

My question is 1. Did he have any right to open up my buddy's car without his express permission and without him being there?

2. Did the cops have any reason to ask for my id in the first place (no crime occurred, was occurring, or was about to occur) and did he have any right to force me to hand over my personal property to him by threatening me with a taser. (The cop never asked me for my name and age, which he could have easily compared to police records) Statute I found regarding this issue is 968.24

thanks guys

1. He was doing you all a favor by opening your buddy's car at your request. He asked for you ID to verify that it was your wallet in the car and by refusing to show your ID, you made him suspicious. Your rationale that you didn't carry your ID in your fat wallet because you didn't want to go canoeing with it was ridiculous. Your wallet was in the car. Who the hell takes their ID out of their wallet in the circumstances you described? No one.

2. Yes.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: moomoo40moo

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
I don't see that it was obtained illegally. Your friend got it out of the car and gave it to you. Then you gave it to the officer. I think in some states its illegal to not report a fake ID, and so the officer taking it likely is not breaking any law (and in fact you likely were by having it). Be thankful they didn't take you back to the police station and either call your parents (if you're under 18) or arrest you.

the cop opening the car without owners consent is illegal, and thus all subsequent evidence seized is suppressed...

That doesn't mean they'll be getting the fake ID back, though. 😛

this is true, but if I were in OP's shoes, I would be more concerned about legal action than getting the ID back

i'm hoping to get it dropped, didn't think at all i would get the id back.

its illegal search and seizure the way I see it...

But no telling if the OP is telling us the truth about all of them saying it was someone else's car. Plus remember they supposedly convinced the cop to open the car by saying their friends were lost.

Why would it be dismissed, if the person who actually owns the wallet regained posession and then handed it to the cop. The cop did not go through the car and find the wallet, nor is he the one who got it out of the car.

doesn't matter who went thru the car. The officer doesn't have consent to open the car or any of the items found in the car. Fruits from the poisonous tree if you will.

PS: I'm assuming the story OP is telling is factually. Otherwise, all we can do is speculate.