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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
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Precisely! 😉

Uhm .. you have too much pride and way too much hate for me to say anything to you.

sigh, informing the ignorant these days is considered "hate". still good though :thumbsup:

You don't even know what I am reffering to. Why do you comment on everything I say? Are you in love with me? Obviously I've touched a nerve because you comment on everything I say. Do you want to hold my hand next? I interest you. That is scary.

Won't take very long for me to pose the same questions of you. Physician, heal thyself 🙂

A person who says this:

Indians are not inherently superior to Pakistanis. They worked damned hard at getting there.

And many more idiotic statements doesn't deserve my time or day. This isn't an Indian board. You won't get the cheers you'd get there with that statement on here. Although you have your small number of supporters.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
.....


Precisely! 😉

Uhm .. you have too much pride and way too much hate for me to say anything to you.

sigh, informing the ignorant these days is considered "hate". still good though :thumbsup:

You don't even know what I am reffering to. Why do you comment on everything I say? Are you in love with me? Obviously I've touched a nerve because you comment on everything I say. Do you want to hold my hand next? I interest you. That is scary.

ROFL, you made my day, that really cracked me up :thumbsup:

I'm sure anything would make your day. You spend your day talking about Iran with me and bashing Muslims. You have an interesting life. Keep up the good work.

well, I actually went to work today, got my glasses, pwned some punks in a online shooter and am bout to go to sleep. and the Iran bashing part?? well its deservedly so

oh and I spent about half an hour on the thread about Israel actually, i keep a track of time :thumbsup:

man I need to get more hours on my job hehe

Yes in every thread you just want to go at it with me about Iran. God knows why. I think some Iranian got the job over you or some Iranian girl broke up with you. Cause the way I see it is nobody else gives a damn about Iran as much as you on this board. You just MUST comment negatively on it and you must always say something negative about Muslims. Because why would you go at it with me on a daily basis? It's pure hate.

usually i never start on it, im responding to other people's ignorant posts about the mentioned subjects.

and i dont say negative stuff about muslims, now thats just lieing

i do, however, differentiate the extremist muslim terrorist thugs from the regular muslims, who are completely innocent
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
.....


Precisely! 😉

Uhm .. you have too much pride and way too much hate for me to say anything to you.

sigh, informing the ignorant these days is considered "hate". still good though :thumbsup:

You don't even know what I am reffering to. Why do you comment on everything I say? Are you in love with me? Obviously I've touched a nerve because you comment on everything I say. Do you want to hold my hand next? I interest you. That is scary.

ROFL, you made my day, that really cracked me up :thumbsup:

I'm sure anything would make your day. You spend your day talking about Iran with me and bashing Muslims. You have an interesting life. Keep up the good work.

well, I actually went to work today, got my glasses, pwned some punks in a online shooter and am bout to go to sleep. and the Iran bashing part?? well its deservedly so

oh and I spent about half an hour on the thread about Israel actually, i keep a track of time :thumbsup:

man I need to get more hours on my job hehe

Yes in every thread you just want to go at it with me about Iran. God knows why. I think some Iranian got the job over you or some Iranian girl broke up with you. Cause the way I see it is nobody else gives a damn about Iran as much as you on this board. You just MUST comment negatively on it and you must always say something negative about Muslims. Because why would you go at it with me on a daily basis? It's pure hate.

usually i never start on it, im responding to other people's ignorant posts about the mentioned subjects.

and i dont say negative stuff about muslims, now thats just lieing

i do, however, differentiate the extremist muslim terrorist thugs from the regular muslims, who are completely innocent

You haven't told me the defintiion of an extremist Muslim yet you know.

And as far as you responding to other people's post. Wrong. You respond directly to my post in a negative and hateful manner.
 
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: athithi
Too much Indian pride? More like disdain for uninformed ATers who shoot off their mouths first - I've never started Indian flag-waving here unless some moron tries to diss India out of sheer ignorance. If you read my posts closely you will clearly see that I harbor no delusions about where India and Indian society stand in today's world. I do not discount criticism as long as it is made out of genuine interest or preferably knowledge in the subject.

Untouchability existed in the U.S nearly 200 years after independence. The Indian nation is not even 60 years old. When people just pause to let pragmatism and reality sink in, they will find themselves far less critical of India. That is the essence of my "Indian jingoism" on these boards - to knock in a little reality, especially when there is active resistance against it.

Well you didn't really state much there. As I have stated, I would say that the untouchables in India are worse off today than the native american group in the United States today.

While India as today's nation may only be about 60 years old, the practices have been there for quite some time. You're acting like Sultan where he tried to excuse Saudi Arabia having slavery well into the middle of THIS century.

It doesn't matter if a country is 60 years old or 600 years old. Some countries are about 10 years old. Is that a free pass to become a slave nation? No. The only thing that matters is that today is the year 2005.

I'm not saying that the situation is beyond repair or that they are treated like slaves so don't even try to go to an extreme.

OK, when you know you have lost an argument just make start making baseless accusations, right? I don't know if Sultan justified slavery or not. I certainly didn't justify or condone or even ignore untouchability. Untouchability is a crime in India. I dare say it was mandated a crime in India nearly a decade before it took the United States to do the same.

You have such a fundamental lack of understanding of the development of a society that it is pointless to even tell you this. Why did it take the U.S close to 200 years to get rid of segregation - even with the end of segregation, racism has still not ended. That does not stop me from admiring what the United States is an represents, Iraqi War notwithstanding. How would you like it if someone were to enumerate ONLY the negative things about the U.S and that too mostly based on hearsay? Why didn't Iraq, inspite of billions of dollars, 140,000 of the world's finest soldiers and some of the sharpest political minds, become a successful state overnight?

I didn't state much? I state, dude. I state much. You read too little...or comprehend too little.
 
i signed up for these boards to educate myself about the world, and educate others. i didnt sign up to bash other religion's or races
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
You haven't told me the defintiion of an extremist Muslim yet you know.

And as far as you responding to other people's post. Wrong. You respond directly to my post in a negative and hateful manner.
it only appears that way to you.

extremist muslim in my opinion is a person who wants to create a pure islam. a islam without other religons coexisting with it. who uses violence to accomplish this

an example of muslim extremists are the 9/11 hijackers, while they were yelling verses of the Quran as the planes were about to crash into their intended targets (three of them actually did)
 
Originally posted by: Aimster

A person who says this:

Indians are not inherently superior to Pakistanis. They worked damned hard at getting there.

And many more idiotic statements doesn't deserve my time or day. This isn't an Indian board. You won't get the cheers you'd get there with that statement on here. Although you have your small number of supporters.

Pity, you could not see the stark wisdom of that statement. Not to mention that you left out the part where I indicate that Americans are superior to Indians for having built a better nation. I have four words for you - lying piece of sh!t.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
i signed up for these boards to educate myself about the world, and educate others. i didnt sign up to bash other religion's or races

You still haven't told me the defintion of what an extremist Muslim is in your eyes. An extremist Muslim is one who follows their religion? This is the third time I am asking you.

How can you educate others when you say "Muslims dance on the street when Americans die" Instead of "Palestinians dance on the street when Muslims die". I corrected you and you still don't see the point in saying Palestinians. Therefore you think it is linked to the religion that all Muslims cheer when Americans die.

You say I am not allowed to compare the population growth of Iran because of their extremist Islamic government. You turn it into one big war over governments when I am talking about population growth. Last time I checked it doesn't matter what kind of government someone has. People are still people yet for some reason you got angry and pissed. You still continue to defend your point because India is a "superior nation" and no country shall ever be compared to an "ISLAMIC" regime.

How many countless Muslim threads have you popped your head in there to say something negative? I can name several.

yeah , ok.
 
Originally posted by: athithi
OK, when you know you have lost an argument just make start making baseless accusations, right? I don't know if Sultan justified slavery or not. I certainly didn't justify or condone or even ignore untouchability. Untouchability is a crime in India. I dare say it was mandated a crime in India nearly a decade before it took the United States to do the same.

I should have been more clear. You are trying to give India an easier 'pass' for the hardships of a certain group of people because the nation of India is not 60 years old. Sultan tried to use the same argument to try to partly excuse the establishment of slavery in Saudi Arabia well into and past the middle of the 20th century.

Again, it does NOT matter how old the official country of India is. The region had been practicing such customs for quite a while. The only thing that matters is that we are living in the year 2005.

You have such a fundamental lack of understanding of the development of a society that it is pointless to even tell you this. Why did it take the U.S close to 200 years to get rid of segregation - even with the end of segregation, racism has still not ended. That does not stop me from admiring what the United States is an represents, Iraqi War notwithstanding. How would you like it if someone were to enumerate ONLY the negative things about the U.S and that too mostly based on hearsay? Why didn't Iraq, inspite of billions of dollars, 140,000 of the world's finest soldiers and some of the sharpest political minds, become a successful state overnight?

You are blinded with massive India patriotism. It's pretty damn obvious. It's nice that you are patriotic about India, but sometimes it gets too out of hand.

Again, it doesn't matter if it took the US 200 years to get rid of segregation. That is not a part of the discussion of how the Native Americans and Untouchables are treated TODAY.

I'm not sure why you're talking about people saying only negative things about India. I hardly negatively attack India at any chance that I am able to. Again, this has nothing to do with the discussion of how Native Americans and Untouchables are treated today.

I didn't state much? I state, dude. I state much. You read too little...or comprehend too little.

No, you don't state much about the topic at hand.

Don't take too much offense at this as it will be extremely alarming to be compared to Sultan, but you are using the EXACT same logic and argumentation as him. You are going off on tangents, refusing to look at the actual point in contention, and use teh exact same style of argument to try to make your 'side' look better.

If you wish to continue this discussion then please try to actually address the topic at hand instead of these random statements that you are making.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
You haven't told me the defintiion of an extremist Muslim yet you know.

And as far as you responding to other people's post. Wrong. You respond directly to my post in a negative and hateful manner.
it only appears that way to you.

extremist muslim in my opinion is a person who wants to create a pure islam. a islam without other religons coexisting with it. who uses violence to accomplish this

an example of muslim extremists are the 9/11 hijackers, while they were yelling verses of the Quran as the planes were about to crash into their intended targets (three of them actually did)

Then in your own words there are very few Islamic extremist out there and there are no extreme Islamic regimes.

14,000 members in Al Qaeda estimated. Sure there are other groups, but I doubt as large.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
You haven't told me the defintiion of an extremist Muslim yet you know.

And as far as you responding to other people's post. Wrong. You respond directly to my post in a negative and hateful manner.
it only appears that way to you.

extremist muslim in my opinion is a person who wants to create a pure islam. a islam without other religons coexisting with it. who uses violence to accomplish this

an example of muslim extremists are the 9/11 hijackers, while they were yelling verses of the Quran as the planes were about to crash into their intended targets (three of them actually did)

Then in your own words there are very few Islamic extremist out there and there are no extreme Islamic regimes.

14,000 members in Al Qaeda estimated. Sure there are other groups, but I doubt as large.

there is more to terrorism than the actual terrorists who commit the actual terrorist attack. thought you would know this
 
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

A person who says this:

Indians are not inherently superior to Pakistanis. They worked damned hard at getting there.

And many more idiotic statements doesn't deserve my time or day. This isn't an Indian board. You won't get the cheers you'd get there with that statement on here. Although you have your small number of supporters.

Pity, you could not see the stark wisdom of that statement. Not to mention that you left out the part where I indicate that Americans are superior to Indians for having built a better nation. I have four words for you - lying piece of sh!t.

You've got to be an idiot if you actually said India was better than America. And I didn't leave out that part. Why don't you post the entire statement then???
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
You haven't told me the defintiion of an extremist Muslim yet you know.

And as far as you responding to other people's post. Wrong. You respond directly to my post in a negative and hateful manner.
it only appears that way to you.

extremist muslim in my opinion is a person who wants to create a pure islam. a islam without other religons coexisting with it. who uses violence to accomplish this

an example of muslim extremists are the 9/11 hijackers, while they were yelling verses of the Quran as the planes were about to crash into their intended targets (three of them actually did)

Then in your own words there are very few Islamic extremist out there and there are no extreme Islamic regimes.

14,000 members in Al Qaeda estimated. Sure there are other groups, but I doubt as large.

there is more to terrorism than the actual terrorists who commit the actual terrorist attack. thought you would know this

How is one a terrorist if they do nothing? What more is there to terrorism? Please tell me.

 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
You haven't told me the defintiion of an extremist Muslim yet you know.

And as far as you responding to other people's post. Wrong. You respond directly to my post in a negative and hateful manner.
it only appears that way to you.

extremist muslim in my opinion is a person who wants to create a pure islam. a islam without other religons coexisting with it. who uses violence to accomplish this

an example of muslim extremists are the 9/11 hijackers, while they were yelling verses of the Quran as the planes were about to crash into their intended targets (three of them actually did)

Then in your own words there are very few Islamic extremist out there and there are no extreme Islamic regimes.

14,000 members in Al Qaeda estimated. Sure there are other groups, but I doubt as large.

there is more to terrorism than the actual terrorists who commit the actual terrorist attack. thought you would know this

How is one a terrorist if they do nothing? What more is there to terrorism? Please tell me.

without money there is no terrorism. you think the terrorists who commit these acts do it out of nowhere?

there is a huge support system to provide coordination, funding etc to make sure the attack goes thru. it requres a lot money

9/11 took years to plan
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
You haven't told me the defintiion of an extremist Muslim yet you know.

And as far as you responding to other people's post. Wrong. You respond directly to my post in a negative and hateful manner.
it only appears that way to you.

extremist muslim in my opinion is a person who wants to create a pure islam. a islam without other religons coexisting with it. who uses violence to accomplish this

an example of muslim extremists are the 9/11 hijackers, while they were yelling verses of the Quran as the planes were about to crash into their intended targets (three of them actually did)

Then in your own words there are very few Islamic extremist out there and there are no extreme Islamic regimes.

14,000 members in Al Qaeda estimated. Sure there are other groups, but I doubt as large.

there is more to terrorism than the actual terrorists who commit the actual terrorist attack. thought you would know this

How is one a terrorist if they do nothing? What more is there to terrorism? Please tell me.

without money there is no terrorism. you think the terrorists who commit these acts do it out of nowhere?

there is a huge support system to provide coordination, funding etc to make sure the attack goes thru. it requres a lot money

9/11 took years to plan

Why don't you just admit who you are? You love India and will defend India with all you have and you think M.E countries are POS because in every thread your reason for bashing them is because they are not a "Democracy" therefore they suck. India is superior to every nation that is not a democracy. That is your defense most of the time if not all the time, is it not?

That still doesn't explain why you chase after me about Iran, or why you say those things about Muslims or why you randomly always poke your head in Muslim threads and try to stir things up by saying things like "Well how many Christians and Hindus do you see blowing themselves up". Why would anyone say that unless their purpose is to try to make Muslims look bad? If you have nothing good to say about a religion maybe you should keep your mouth shut?
 
You've also said these crazy things:

"Egypt is Israel's enemy just like every Arab country" . That is pure BS. Anyone who says this is saying Muslims hate Jews.

Why don't you do a little search on all the nasty things you've said. You like to stir up things.
 
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: athithi
OK, when you know you have lost an argument just make start making baseless accusations, right? I don't know if Sultan justified slavery or not. I certainly didn't justify or condone or even ignore untouchability. Untouchability is a crime in India. I dare say it was mandated a crime in India nearly a decade before it took the United States to do the same.

I should have been more clear. You are trying to give India an easier 'pass' for the hardships of a certain group of people because the nation of India is not 60 years old. Sultan tried to use the same argument to try to partly excuse the establishment of slavery in Saudi Arabia well into and past the middle of the 20th century.

Again, it does NOT matter how old the official country of India is. The region had been practicing such customs for quite a while. The only thing that matters is that we are living in the year 2005.

You have such a fundamental lack of understanding of the development of a society that it is pointless to even tell you this. Why did it take the U.S close to 200 years to get rid of segregation - even with the end of segregation, racism has still not ended. That does not stop me from admiring what the United States is an represents, Iraqi War notwithstanding. How would you like it if someone were to enumerate ONLY the negative things about the U.S and that too mostly based on hearsay? Why didn't Iraq, inspite of billions of dollars, 140,000 of the world's finest soldiers and some of the sharpest political minds, become a successful state overnight?

You are blinded with massive India patriotism. It's pretty damn obvious. It's nice that you are patriotic about India, but sometimes it gets too out of hand.

Again, it doesn't matter if it took the US 200 years to get rid of segregation. That is not a part of the discussion of how the Native Americans and Untouchables are treated TODAY.

I'm not sure why you're talking about people saying only negative things about India. I hardly negatively attack India at any chance that I am able to. Again, this has nothing to do with the discussion of how Native Americans and Untouchables are treated today.

I didn't state much? I state, dude. I state much. You read too little...or comprehend too little.

No, you don't state much about the topic at hand.

Don't take too much offense at this as it will be extremely alarming to be compared to Sultan, but you are using the EXACT same logic and argumentation as him. You are going off on tangents, refusing to look at the actual point in contention, and use teh exact same style of argument to try to make your 'side' look better.

If you wish to continue this discussion then please try to actually address the topic at hand instead of these random statements that you are making.

You give Sultan way too much credit 😛 The topic on hand, just for the record, was neither untouchability, nor segregation. That said, what is so difficult to understand about it taking time for a nation to develop? For over 200 years before independence, India was ruled by the British. Indians did NOT have a say in their destiny. For about a 1000 (yes, one thousand) years prior to that, they were ruled by Mughal invaders from Central Asia. And before that? Well, first tell me what the Europeans were up to at that point in time and I will tell you what went on in India - yes, monarchies. What is so difficult to understand about the fact that the common man in India has had some say in his destiny only for about 60 years now!!!

Native Americans are receiving better treatment that other displaced native ethnic groups ONLY after the passage of 100s of years and the influence of the wisdom of great individuals on society at large. I understand your point - how hard can it be for India to ensure that untouchability is not practiced anywhere in the country in 2005. Trust me, it is damned hard. It is almost as hard as it was for the U.S to remove segregation, if not harder. It will take time. It is being done. Yes, it is not being done fast enough for millions of people. But that is STILL better than it not being done at all.

I am not blinded by patriotism. I couldn't be clearer in my views. If you still don't understand what I am talking about, the fault lies as much in your ability to understand as it might be in mine to communicate. You seek objectivity in me by expecting me to criticize India as harshly as anybody ignorant of the country would. If you knew the governing boundaries of the discussion, I would willingly indulge in a greater depth of conversation. OTOH, if you are going to make comments based on hearsay, you will only get to see me counter those aspersions. That is what gives you the feeling that I blindly support everything that goes on in India. I couldn't possibly make it any clearer.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
You haven't told me the defintiion of an extremist Muslim yet you know.

And as far as you responding to other people's post. Wrong. You respond directly to my post in a negative and hateful manner.
it only appears that way to you.

extremist muslim in my opinion is a person who wants to create a pure islam. a islam without other religons coexisting with it. who uses violence to accomplish this

an example of muslim extremists are the 9/11 hijackers, while they were yelling verses of the Quran as the planes were about to crash into their intended targets (three of them actually did)

Then in your own words there are very few Islamic extremist out there and there are no extreme Islamic regimes.

14,000 members in Al Qaeda estimated. Sure there are other groups, but I doubt as large.

there is more to terrorism than the actual terrorists who commit the actual terrorist attack. thought you would know this

How is one a terrorist if they do nothing? What more is there to terrorism? Please tell me.

without money there is no terrorism. you think the terrorists who commit these acts do it out of nowhere?

there is a huge support system to provide coordination, funding etc to make sure the attack goes thru. it requres a lot money

9/11 took years to plan

Why don't you just admit who you are? You love India and will defend India with all you have and you think M.E countries are POS because in every thread your reason for bashing them is because they are not a "Democracy" therefore they suck. India is superior to every nation that is not a democracy. That is your defense most of the time if not all the time, is it not?

That still doesn't explain why you chase after me about Iran, or why you say those things about Muslims or why you randomly always poke your head in Muslim threads and try to stir things up by saying things like "Well how many Christians and Hindus do you see blowing themselves up". Why would anyone say that unless their purpose is to try to make Muslims look bad? If you have nothing good to say about a religion maybe you should keep your mouth shut?

moron I just replied to your question, stfu kthx
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
You haven't told me the defintiion of an extremist Muslim yet you know.

And as far as you responding to other people's post. Wrong. You respond directly to my post in a negative and hateful manner.
it only appears that way to you.

extremist muslim in my opinion is a person who wants to create a pure islam. a islam without other religons coexisting with it. who uses violence to accomplish this

an example of muslim extremists are the 9/11 hijackers, while they were yelling verses of the Quran as the planes were about to crash into their intended targets (three of them actually did)

Then in your own words there are very few Islamic extremist out there and there are no extreme Islamic regimes.

14,000 members in Al Qaeda estimated. Sure there are other groups, but I doubt as large.

there is more to terrorism than the actual terrorists who commit the actual terrorist attack. thought you would know this

How is one a terrorist if they do nothing? What more is there to terrorism? Please tell me.

without money there is no terrorism. you think the terrorists who commit these acts do it out of nowhere?

there is a huge support system to provide coordination, funding etc to make sure the attack goes thru. it requres a lot money

9/11 took years to plan

Why don't you just admit who you are? You love India and will defend India with all you have and you think M.E countries are POS because in every thread your reason for bashing them is because they are not a "Democracy" therefore they suck. India is superior to every nation that is not a democracy. That is your defense most of the time if not all the time, is it not?

That still doesn't explain why you chase after me about Iran, or why you say those things about Muslims or why you randomly always poke your head in Muslim threads and try to stir things up by saying things like "Well how many Christians and Hindus do you see blowing themselves up". Why would anyone say that unless their purpose is to try to make Muslims look bad? If you have nothing good to say about a religion maybe you should keep your mouth shut?

moron I just replied to your question, stfu and go away kthx

"yawn"
 
Hey look I think I found the answer:

dont forgte Israel and India, which might be the countries that have suffered the most casualties by muslim terrorists over the past few decades

Remember saying that? No wonder you hate. Lol.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

A person who says this:

Indians are not inherently superior to Pakistanis. They worked damned hard at getting there.

And many more idiotic statements doesn't deserve my time or day. This isn't an Indian board. You won't get the cheers you'd get there with that statement on here. Although you have your small number of supporters.

Pity, you could not see the stark wisdom of that statement. Not to mention that you left out the part where I indicate that Americans are superior to Indians for having built a better nation. I have four words for you - lying piece of sh!t.

You've got to be an idiot if you actually said India was better than America. And I didn't leave out that part. Why don't you post the entire statement then???

Strawman argument. When I said America is superior to India, it was not because I was afraid of saying that India was superior to America. I was merely stating fact. But you can't pick and choose your facts, mister. If America > India, then India > Pakistan. You are trying to construct an argument I never made so you can shoot it down.

Stop quoting fragments from other discussions. You arguments have no logic to stand upon.
 
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

A person who says this:

Indians are not inherently superior to Pakistanis. They worked damned hard at getting there.

And many more idiotic statements doesn't deserve my time or day. This isn't an Indian board. You won't get the cheers you'd get there with that statement on here. Although you have your small number of supporters.

Pity, you could not see the stark wisdom of that statement. Not to mention that you left out the part where I indicate that Americans are superior to Indians for having built a better nation. I have four words for you - lying piece of sh!t.

You've got to be an idiot if you actually said India was better than America. And I didn't leave out that part. Why don't you post the entire statement then???

Strawman argument. When I said America is superior to India, it was not because I was afraid of saying that India was superior to America. I was merely stating fact. But you can't pick and choose your facts, mister. If America > India, then India > Pakistan. You are trying to construct an argument I never made so you can shoot it down.

Stop quoting fragments from other discussions. You arguments have no logic to stand upon.

I don't care if India > Pakistan or if India > America ???

WTF is up with you and your little buddy? I know most Indians don't sit around on anandtech fighting over India. They will laugh at you for talking so much about it to a bunch of nobodys.

Who cares??

India is great. You won't win anything if you even change the minds of people here.
 
Originally posted by: athithi
The topic on hand, just for the record, was neither untouchability, nor segregation.

The point of contention between the two of us is about untouchability and Native Americans.

That said, what is so difficult to understand about it taking time for a nation to develop? For over 200 years before independence, India was ruled by the British. Indians did NOT have a say in their destiny. For about a 1000 (yes, one thousand) years prior to that, they were ruled by Mughal invaders from Central Asia. And before that? Well, first tell me what the Europeans were up to at that point in time and I will tell you what went on in India - yes, monarchies. What is so difficult to understand about the fact that the common man in India has had some say in his destiny only for about 60 years now!!!

I know plenty about India's history, but that still doesn't mean that untouchables of today and their treatment are in any way excused. The history of India really doesn't have ANY place in the question of 'Who is worse off - the Untouchables or the Native Americans today?'

Native Americans are receiving better treatment that other displaced native ethnic groups ONLY after the passage of 100s of years and the influence of the wisdom of great individuals on society at large. I understand your point - how hard can it be for India to ensure that untouchability is not practiced anywhere in the country in 2005. Trust me, it is damned hard. It is almost as hard as it was for the U.S to remove segregation, if not harder. It will take time. It is being done. Yes, it is not being done fast enough for millions of people. But that is STILL better than it not being done at all.

I agree that it is being 'fixed' as anyone that reads or knows about this would realize. However, again that doesn't really answer the question or attack the point at hand.

I am not blinded by patriotism. I couldn't be clearer in my views. If you still don't understand what I am talking about, the fault lies as much in your ability to understand as it might be in mine to communicate. You seek objectivity in me by expecting me to criticize India as harshly as anybody ignorant of the country would. If you knew the governing boundaries of the discussion, I would willingly indulge in a greater depth of conversation. OTOH, if you are going to make comments based on hearsay, you will only get to see me counter those aspersions. That is what gives you the feeling that I blindly support everything that goes on in India. I couldn't possibly make it any clearer.

Blinding by patriotism may be too harsh, but I cannot see how else you can explain your reaction without some sort of great pride in India influencing your posts to a severe degree.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

A person who says this:

Indians are not inherently superior to Pakistanis. They worked damned hard at getting there.

And many more idiotic statements doesn't deserve my time or day. This isn't an Indian board. You won't get the cheers you'd get there with that statement on here. Although you have your small number of supporters.

Pity, you could not see the stark wisdom of that statement. Not to mention that you left out the part where I indicate that Americans are superior to Indians for having built a better nation. I have four words for you - lying piece of sh!t.

You've got to be an idiot if you actually said India was better than America. And I didn't leave out that part. Why don't you post the entire statement then???

Strawman argument. When I said America is superior to India, it was not because I was afraid of saying that India was superior to America. I was merely stating fact. But you can't pick and choose your facts, mister. If America > India, then India > Pakistan. You are trying to construct an argument I never made so you can shoot it down.

Stop quoting fragments from other discussions. You arguments have no logic to stand upon.

I don't care if India > Pakistan or if India > America ???

WTF is up with you and your little buddy? I know most Indians don't sit around on anandtech fighting over India. They will laugh at you for talking so much about it to a bunch of nobodys.

Who cares??

India is great. You won't win anything if you even change the minds of people here.

why do you always whine and bitch about India? and yet accuse me of being paranoid of Iran?

I dislike Iran's govt. and its policy to support terrorism. thats it, get over it

*edit*

you have no right to tell anyone to not sit at Anandtech and fight over this stuff, you do this all the time, probably more than anyone else.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

A person who says this:

Indians are not inherently superior to Pakistanis. They worked damned hard at getting there.

And many more idiotic statements doesn't deserve my time or day. This isn't an Indian board. You won't get the cheers you'd get there with that statement on here. Although you have your small number of supporters.

Pity, you could not see the stark wisdom of that statement. Not to mention that you left out the part where I indicate that Americans are superior to Indians for having built a better nation. I have four words for you - lying piece of sh!t.

You've got to be an idiot if you actually said India was better than America. And I didn't leave out that part. Why don't you post the entire statement then???

Strawman argument. When I said America is superior to India, it was not because I was afraid of saying that India was superior to America. I was merely stating fact. But you can't pick and choose your facts, mister. If America > India, then India > Pakistan. You are trying to construct an argument I never made so you can shoot it down.

Stop quoting fragments from other discussions. You arguments have no logic to stand upon.

I don't care if India > Pakistan or if India > America ???

WTF is up with you and your little buddy? I know most Indians don't sit around on anandtech fighting over India. They will laugh at you for talking so much about it to a bunch of nobodys.

Who cares??

India is great. You won't win anything if you even change the minds of people here.

why do you always whine and bitch about India? and yet accuse me of being paranoid of Iran?

I dislike Iran's govt. and its policy to support terrorism. thats it, get over it

*edit*

you have no right to tell anyone to not sit at Anandtech and fight over this stuff, you do this all the time, probably more than anyone else.

Whine and bitch about India? Show me proof. Why are you defending your little buddy?

I'm not pro anything. If I am pro anything show me proof. Right now.

I love to go after the people on this board who are closed minded and are full of hate. You are one of them. You dislike Iran more than Iranians dislike Iran yet you only "claim" to hate the government.
Yeahhh right.
 
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