Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: athithi
OK, when you know you have lost an argument just make start making baseless accusations, right? I don't know if Sultan justified slavery or not. I certainly didn't justify or condone or even ignore untouchability. Untouchability is a crime in India. I dare say it was mandated a crime in India nearly a decade before it took the United States to do the same.
I should have been more clear. You are trying to give India an easier 'pass' for the hardships of a certain group of people because the nation of India is not 60 years old. Sultan tried to use the same argument to try to partly excuse the establishment of slavery in Saudi Arabia well into and past the middle of the 20th century.
Again, it does NOT matter how old the official country of India is. The region had been practicing such customs for quite a while. The only thing that matters is that we are living in the year 2005.
You have such a fundamental lack of understanding of the development of a society that it is pointless to even tell you this. Why did it take the U.S close to 200 years to get rid of segregation - even with the end of segregation, racism has still not ended. That does not stop me from admiring what the United States is an represents, Iraqi War notwithstanding. How would you like it if someone were to enumerate ONLY the negative things about the U.S and that too mostly based on hearsay? Why didn't Iraq, inspite of billions of dollars, 140,000 of the world's finest soldiers and some of the sharpest political minds, become a successful state overnight?
You are blinded with massive India patriotism. It's pretty damn obvious. It's nice that you are patriotic about India, but sometimes it gets too out of hand.
Again, it doesn't matter if it took the US 200 years to get rid of segregation. That is not a part of the discussion of how the Native Americans and Untouchables are treated TODAY.
I'm not sure why you're talking about people saying only negative things about India. I hardly negatively attack India at any chance that I am able to. Again, this has nothing to do with the discussion of how Native Americans and Untouchables are treated today.
I didn't state much? I state, dude. I state much. You read too little...or comprehend too little.
No, you don't state much about the topic at hand.
Don't take too much offense at this as it will be extremely alarming to be compared to Sultan, but you are using the EXACT same logic and argumentation as him. You are going off on tangents, refusing to look at the actual point in contention, and use teh exact same style of argument to try to make your 'side' look better.
If you wish to continue this discussion then please try to actually address the topic at hand instead of these random statements that you are making.