Right Wing NPR

Zebo

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http://www.fair.org/extra/0405/npr-study.html


Not only do they only interview "elite" members of our society almost exclusivly they present right leaning views overwhelmingly.


Looking at partisan sources?including government officials, party officials, campaign workers and consultants?Republicans outnumbered Democrats by more than 3 to 2 (61 percent to 38 percent).

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Republicans not only had a substantial partisan edge, individual Republicans were NPR?s most popular sources overall, taking the top seven spots in frequency of appearance. George Bush led all sources for the month with 36 appearances, followed by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld (8) and Sen. Pat Roberts (6). Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Secretary of State Colin Powell, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer and Iraq proconsul Paul Bremer all tied with five appearances each.

Senators Edward Kennedy, Jay Rockefeller and Max Baucus were the most frequently heard Democrats, each appearing four times. No nongovernmental source appeared more than three times. With the exception of Secretary of State Powell, all of the top 10 most frequently appearing sources were white male government officials.


And thinktanks quoted:

FAIR classified each think tank by ideological orientation as either centrist, right of center or left of center. Representatives of think tanks to the right of center outnumbered those to the left of center by more than four to one: 62 appearances to 15. Centrist think tanks provided sources for 56 appearances.
 

chess9

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But, but, but NPR turned me into a COMMIE. So the report is wrong. They spout nothing but hate for our country and its values.

-Robert
 

Dari

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yeah right. the npr is as right wing as all the hippies and homosexuals that I almost over-ran in Greenwich Village. These people became emotionally and visibly upset when I raced through the small streets in a black Hummer that had American flags and "Bush/Cheney 2004" campaign stickers all over it. My God, everyone in their min coopers, BMW 3-series, VWs, Audis, and Civics with their "Kerry for President" is A-OK but an American that bleeds red, white and blue is denied free speech in the Village?

it's a little off-topic, sorry.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: Dari
yeah right. the npr is as right wing as all the hippies and homosexuals that I almost over-ran in Greenwich Village. These people became emotionally and visibly upset when I raced through the small streets in a black Hummer that had American flags and "Bush/Cheney 2004" campaign stickers all over it. My God, everyone in their min coopers, BMW 3-series, VWs, Audis, and Civics with their "Kerry for President" is A-OK but an American that bleeds red, white and blue is denied free speech in the Village?

it's a little off-topic, sorry.

Did you have a reason for posting in this thread?
 

Infohawk

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NPR is neither liberal or conservative IMO. Lately they've covered more conservative viewpoints -- in my opinion -- because conservative viewpoints dominate the federal government.

Unlike Fox and other networks, NPR does not call opinion shows news shows. The shows aren't named after their hosts. Even someone who is connected with a show, like Terri Gross and Fresh Air, does not voice her opinion. At the most she'll say, "a lot of people complain that you..." or "some critics like..." On Fox, on the other hand, O'Reilly presents the news with constant spin interjecting his viewpoint constantly and pretending to be independent.

The best argument that NPR is liberal is that their topics are liberal. Even this is not true however. They talk about religion, popular culture, and other garbage that is usually associated with consertavism.
 

Zebo

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Infohawk. Make up your mind:)

The bottom line on ALL major news networks is they are dependent upon corporations for advertising, or in NPR's case the government and wealthy donors, all of whom have conservative economic agendas. As a result, the news almost completely ignores corporate crime, pro-labor and pro-consumer issues, and global trade, which are decidingly people issues and concern us for real and are bad for the conglonmerates who own these enities and thier patrons.
 

Steeplerot

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When did people in the village start driving? I have never known a New Yorker with a license much less a car. Maybe they were wondering why a dumbass from the suburbs were getting in the way of the taxis and buses.
Thats like saying you brought your car here to the city in San Fran lol. I don't even know anyone with a car.
 

Perknose

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I listen to NPR all the damn time. I would say that they are liberal leaning folks who try damn hard to actually be fair and balanced. Just my zwie groschen.
 

Zebo

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they are liberal leaning folks
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Well they are educated.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Infohawk. Make up your mind:)

The bottom line on ALL major news networks is they are dependent upon corporations for advertising, or in NPR's case the government and wealthy donors, all of whom have conservative economic agendas. As a result, the news almost completely ignores corporate crime, pro-labor and pro-consumer issues, and global trade, which are decidingly people issues and concern us for real and are bad for the conglonmerates who own these enities and thier patrons.

My mind is made: NPR is as balanced as can be. I have never seen any editorializing on their part and they only present the facts.

NPR does not ignore corporate crime, pro-labor and pro-consumer issues, and global trade. I have heard all of these topics discussed with high frequency, even ad nauseam. NPR gets very little funding from the government now-- the Republicans succeeded. NPR is dependent mainly on wealthy donors and viewers like you. Of course the wealthy donors are not oil barons, they're usually trusts and don't have agendas since they're not people.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Zebo
Infohawk. Make up your mind:)

The bottom line on ALL major news networks is they are dependent upon corporations for advertising, or in NPR's case the government and wealthy donors, all of whom have conservative economic agendas. As a result, the news almost completely ignores corporate crime, pro-labor and pro-consumer issues, and global trade, which are decidingly people issues and concern us for real and are bad for the conglonmerates who own these enities and thier patrons.

My mind is made: NPR is as balanced as can be. I have never seen any editorializing on their part and they only present the facts.

NPR does not ignore corporate crime, pro-labor and pro-consumer issues, and global trade. I have heard all of these topics discussed with high frequency, even ad nauseam. NPR gets very little funding from the government now-- the Republicans succeeded. NPR is dependent mainly on wealthy donors and viewers like you. Of course the wealthy donors are not oil barons, they're usually trusts and don't have agendas since they're not people.


I don't see how you can come to the conclusion they are balanced after reading that report. They present overwhelmingly proportion of Right-Wing pundits and think tanks given thier air time. They present the "elite" members of society overwhelmingly while relegating time to workers, students, public interest groups, unions etc only to 31%. The views expressed are overwhemingly white male ones and leave females and minorities to about a 10% share.

You don't have to editorialize when you put more of X on shows than Y. It's self-fullfilling and pretty slick way of appearing neutral while being for the elite.
 

Zebo

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they're usually trusts and don't have agendas since they're not people.
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Gawd I missed this one. What do think trust are set up for? Primarly to avoid tax while it's members, usually family get free things from the trust for generations. You think Bill Gates owns his house or the Microsoft foundation? Sure they donate a bit to avoid public scrutiny and good PR for thier parent but this pales in comparison to the taxes they are avoiding, which is ALL. Guess which way they lean?
 

CanOWorms

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I don't listen to NPR, so I don't know how it works (in fact I never listen to news on the radio), but doesn't it make sense to have Republicans in charge on air during this whole controversial Iraq thing?

I thought NPR received over $200 million as a donation from the McDonald's widow, who previously donated $1 million to the Democrats in the '80s.
 

Infohawk

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I'm not crazy about this study. Here is one example:

"Republicans not only had a substantial partisan edge, individual Republicans were NPR?s most popular sources overall, taking the top seven spots in frequency of appearance."

Like I said, the Repugs are in power. Of course they will have their voice heard more. When you want to learn about the decision to pass a new bill, you ask those who passed it.

"George Bush led all sources for the month with 36 appearances"
Again, big deal, he is the president.

Like I said in a previous post, simply dealing with a certain subject matter doesn't make you liberal or conservative. A lot of people think NPR is liberal because it talks about jazz more than monster trucks. This doesn't mean anything EXCEPT that you talk more about jazz than monster trucks.

Here's an analogy. Let's say I'm a student of the new testament. Most people who are into the new testament are conservatives. Does that mean I'm one of them? No. I just look at it more than other sources. Heck, I might not even be a Christian, let alone a conservative.

The same goes for NPR, just because they voice opinions of the political party in power more than that of another party does not mean they take on those viewpoints. NPR always says, "our guest is bla from the bla foundation." The views of their guests don't represent their views.
 

Moonbeam

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NPR is as fascist as the right winged nut cases you occasionally see yelling homosexuals and hippies as they race through the small streets of Greenwich Village in black Hummers with American flags and "Bush/Cheney 2004" campaign stickers all over them.
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: Dari
yeah right. the npr is as right wing as all the hippies and homosexuals that I almost over-ran in Greenwich Village. These people became emotionally and visibly upset when I raced through the small streets in a black Hummer that had American flags and "Bush/Cheney 2004" campaign stickers all over it. My God, everyone in their min coopers, BMW 3-series, VWs, Audis, and Civics with their "Kerry for President" is A-OK but an American that bleeds red, white and blue is denied free speech in the Village?

it's a little off-topic, sorry.



...racing in small streets with a hummer....

I'm pretty sure their problem wasn't because you are a republican
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Zebo
they're usually trusts and don't have agendas since they're not people.
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Gawd I missed this one. What do think trust are set up for? Primarly to avoid tax while it's members, usually family get free things from the trust for generations. You think Bill Gates owns his house or the Microsoft foundation? Sure they donate a bit to avoid public scrutiny and good PR for thier parent but this pales in comparison to the taxes they are avoiding, which is ALL. Guess which way they lean?

If you have evidence that shows the trusts only give money to NPR depending on the news NPR presents, then I'll be worried.
 

0roo0roo

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eh was listening to it in the car yesterday and they were interviewing a guy from the "project for the new american century".... no mention at all that this is the head neocon thinktank lol:)

its the "liberal media" my ass!
 

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Dari
yeah right. the npr is as right wing as all the hippies and homosexuals that I almost over-ran in Greenwich Village.

You know they were homosexuals? How?

Maybe the explanation goes along the lines of this:

I remember originally reading this on the Onion's web site, by the way; but old issues are now only available to members. So I found a site that reposted it, instead :p.

cumhail

That link was inappropriate
 

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
NPR is neither liberal or conservative IMO. Lately they've covered more conservative viewpoints -- in my opinion -- because conservative viewpoints dominate the federal government.

Unlike Fox and other networks, NPR does not call opinion shows news shows. The shows aren't named after their hosts. Even someone who is connected with a show, like Terri Gross and Fresh Air, does not voice her opinion. At the most she'll say, "a lot of people complain that you..." or "some critics like..." On Fox, on the other hand, O'Reilly presents the news with constant spin interjecting his viewpoint constantly and pretending to be independent.

The best argument that NPR is liberal is that their topics are liberal. Even this is not true however. They talk about religion, popular culture, and other garbage that is usually associated with consertavism.

So umm what about the

Tavis Smiley Show
Diane Rehm Show
Brian Lehrer Show

Even Fresh Air, is now "Fresh Air with Terri Gross"