Right To Die Humanely: Forced agony or let em go

[dmcowen674]

Unfortunately many people find themselves in this battle all too often. The News is focusing on the latest tragedy, a woman in Florida that suffered massive brain damage by lack of blood flow to her brain after a heart attack 13 years ago.

The battling parties are her husband and her family. The husband wants to ease her suffering, her family wants to see her continue to deteriorate until she dies. So sad. Let her go.

 

[Piano Man]

It was her choice. She wanted to die. Christ, the woman has been a vegetable for 13 years. I think not having my wits would be the most horrible thing, period. I say let her die humanely.

 

[chess9]

These are extremely difficult cases. On the one hand, medical science is making advances daily, so I'm sure as long as any hope exists that she will recover or be "cured" her parents will fight on. Her husband seems much more realistic and is probably very weary of the burden. These are decisions no one wants to make. But, if I were a very religious sort I think I'd put it all in God's hands and remove her feeding tube and step back. Without food, though, she wouldn't last long. That's a tough way to die. If it were me, I'd rather be given a lethal injection and get it over with quickly. Of course, my wife will see that it's done. Sooner rather than later.... j/k

-Robert

 

[joe4324]

I consider the capability to "choose" to end my own life to be ultimate freedom of choice we as a sentient species possess. Its unfortunate that just because the "majority" "think" you must be ill to desire it, and therefore have made it unavaliable...

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: joe4324
I consider the capability to "choose" to end my own life to be ultimate freedom of choice we as a sentient species possess. Its unfortunate that just because the "majority" "think" you must be ill to desire it, and therefore have made it unavaliable...

I like you, sir.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: joe4324
I consider the capability to "choose" to end my own life to be ultimate freedom of choice we as a sentient species possess. Its unfortunate that just because the "majority" "think" you must be ill to desire it, and therefore have made it unavaliable...

I like you, sir.

As do I. Too bad Ashcroft has been trying to kill our "death with dignity" act around here(Oregon).

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I think it's wrong to kill this woman. I'm the first to say pull the plug when it's only full life support keeping them alive, but this woman is concious and the only reason she's going to die is because she can't feed herself. It's sort of like saying letting a baby die by not feeding it is just nature taking its course.

 

[BillGates]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I think it's wrong to kill this woman. I'm the first to say pull the plug when it's only full life support keeping them alive, but this woman is concious and the only reason she's going to die is because she can't feed herself. It's sort of like saying letting a baby die by not feeding it is just nature taking its course.

A baby has a future in nearly all cases. Laying on a bed helpless year after year is not a future.

 

[konichiwa]

I would argue that it is the most essential freedom to choose whether one lives or dies.

 

[ElFenix]

it is not tragic! just because it is sad doesn't make it tragic! where is the irony!?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: BillGates

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I think it's wrong to kill this woman. I'm the first to say pull the plug when it's only full life support keeping them alive, but this woman is concious and the only reason she's going to die is because she can't feed herself. It's sort of like saying letting a baby die by not feeding it is just nature taking its course.

A baby has a future in nearly all cases. Laying on a bed helpless year after year is not a future.

No one can know what the future holds. That baby may grow up to be no better off than this woman. Then it would be ok to starve it to death?

 

[Gaard]

I may feel differently in the future, but right now I feel that if I ever reach a point where I am unable to even feed myself (due to age, accident, or disease) I would just rather be let go.

 

[Wheezer]

perhaps maybe you people should look more into the case. This is not about her desire to die. Her husband who won a million dollar lawsuit in her name promised that he would look after her and that a portion of the money would be put towards her rehabilitation, and pay for her care. Not one penny has gone to her. Her husband wants her to die so that he has the money to himself period. The parents want her kept alive, and she herself has indicated that she wants to stay alive. She can communicate.

What is really pathetic is that all these people who are against capitol punishment, and speak about the cuelty of our justice system handing out death sentences to people who commint crimes worthy of that punishment sit idely by while the courts commit murder so that some worthless bastard can keep his money.

Who says whe wants to die? If the parents are willing to foot the medical bills and take care of her then doen't he just walk away? He has no ties with her, he is already engaged to a woman who has bore him a child, so why not let the parents take care of her?

It's all about the fact he wants to keep the moeny to himself.

Oh and before you start to think otherwise...remember this could be you at any given time, think about how you would want to be treated.

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Oh yes, you may also want to read up on what an agonizing death starvation and dehydration is, is that how you want to go?

 

[JackStorm]

I, personally, don't consider a lifetime having to be fed by others or being stuck in bed for the rest of my life, living...If I were in a situation like that, I would want someone to pull the plug...As human being, I think one should be allowed (Lets call it "The right to choose" for a sake of argument) to end their life if they're suffering in this manner. I also find it disturbing that brain dead people, for exemple, are forced to rot away (If you have no thought, you are in a sence "dead" ) because some family member doesn't want to let them go, most likely because of some innate fear of death or unwillingless to let go. I mean, we all die eventuly, why not let the person die with some dignity?...

 

[JackStorm]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
perhaps maybe you people should look more into the case. This is not about her desire to die. Her husband who won a million dollar lawsuit in her name promised that he would look after her and that a portion of the money would be put towards her rehabilitation, and pay for her care. Not one penny has gone to her. Her husband wants her to die so that he has the money to himself period. The parents want her kept alive, and she herself has indicated that she wants to stay alive. She can communicate.

What is really pathetic is that all these people who are against capitol punishment, and speak about the cuelty of our justice system handing out death sentences to people who commint crimes worthy of that punishment sit idely by while the courts commit murder so that some worthless bastard can keep his money.

Who says whe wants to die? If the parents are willing to foot the medical bills and take care of her then doen't he just walk away? He has no ties with her, he is already engaged to a woman who has bore him a child, so why not let the parents take care of her?

It's all about the fact he wants to keep the moeny to himself.

Oh and before you start to think otherwise...remember this could be you at any given time, think about how you would want to be treated.

read
read this also
Read this

Oh yes, you may also want to read up on what an agonizing death starvation and dehydration is, is that how you want to go?

Ah...so that's what it's about? the bastard is after her money and she wants to live? If that's the case and if she wants to live, then it's a whole other story.

But I still stand by my statement that a person who is in this type of situation, should be allowed to end their own life if they wish.

 

[Gaard]

About 3 years ago I faced this predicament with my father. He lost most of his lung capacity due to a fungus/growth that went undetected for a long time. He was a life-long smoker and he also owned a body shop for over 40 years before he retired. It was never determined whether the smoking or daily painting in the shop was responsible for the problem with his lungs, however the scarring of the lung tissue that the smoking/painting caused prevented the fungus from showing up in the X-rays as the fungus developed behind the scarring. His lung capacity was so low that he would lapse into unconsciousness at times. But I digress...

After his operation to remove one of his lungs he didn't wake up. The doctors put him on life support to keep him alive. After they did all they could do for him, the doctors held a conference with me and my siblings. (My parents had been divorced for 30 years...my dad never remarried). The doctors told us that they didn't know if my dad would ever regain consciousness, but that they were certain that even if he did he would remain bedridden for the remainder of his days.

We discussed it...me and my siblings (6 altogether)...and it was unanimous to remove him from life support. My dad (80 at the time) had always told us that if he ever was unable to care for himself that he didn't want to live. (He always told us that if we ever put him in a home, he'd come back to haunt us ) We got the family together at his bedside, the nurse turned the machines off, and everyone except family left the room. He was gone in less than 2 minutes.

I know he would've approved of our decision.

 

[lizardboy]

If you look at the family's web site, especially the video, you'll probably have some trouble with this decision. Add to this the fact that her husband will get quite a bit of money when she dies and this is a very sad, ugly situation all the way around.

linkified

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: JackStorm

Originally posted by: Wheezer
perhaps maybe you people should look more into the case. This is not about her desire to die. Her husband who won a million dollar lawsuit in her name promised that he would look after her and that a portion of the money would be put towards her rehabilitation, and pay for her care. Not one penny has gone to her. Her husband wants her to die so that he has the money to himself period. The parents want her kept alive, and she herself has indicated that she wants to stay alive. She can communicate.

What is really pathetic is that all these people who are against capitol punishment, and speak about the cuelty of our justice system handing out death sentences to people who commint crimes worthy of that punishment sit idely by while the courts commit murder so that some worthless bastard can keep his money.

Who says whe wants to die? If the parents are willing to foot the medical bills and take care of her then doen't he just walk away? He has no ties with her, he is already engaged to a woman who has bore him a child, so why not let the parents take care of her?

It's all about the fact he wants to keep the moeny to himself.

Oh and before you start to think otherwise...remember this could be you at any given time, think about how you would want to be treated.

read
read this also
Read this

Oh yes, you may also want to read up on what an agonizing death starvation and dehydration is, is that how you want to go?

Ah...so that's what it's about? the bastard is after her money and she wants to live? If that's the case and if she wants to live, then it's a whole other story.

But I still stand by my statement that a person who is in this type of situation, should be allowed to end their own life if they wish.

According to the website, the money is nearly all gone (Legal costs), so it is not for the money.

 

[Yossarian]

It is disgusting to me that they will just let her slowly starve to death. That's one of the most inhumane things I've ever heard.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: PipBoy
It is disgusting to me that they will just let her slowly starve to death. That's one of the most inhumane things I've ever heard.

What else are they going to do? Using drugs, injections, or other methods are currently illegal on a Federal level.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: PipBoy
It is disgusting to me that they will just let her slowly starve to death. That's one of the most inhumane things I've ever heard.

What else are they going to do? Using drugs, injections, or other methods are currently illegal on a Federal level.

I am sure they will not "let" her be in any kind of pain.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Jeb to get power to intervene from Florida House and Senate.

Interesting...

CkG

 

[dmcowen674]

"I don't believe that the Legislature has the authority to interfere," Felos said

Oh man.

Everybody wants to play God, yet at the same time say God doesn't exist. Interesting indeed.

 

[ViRGE]

And it is done, Jeb has put out his order.

 

[flashbacck]

sooo.... why exactly should the governor have the right to do this? It makes sense when you're talking about the death penalty, because the state is the one prosecuting and sentencing you. But this is completely different.