Right to Die decision gets stay

Iron Woode

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what a horrible thing to have to deal with.

What's your opinion on this case?

:(
 

Cattlegod

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kill her, i know i would want to be killed at that point. hell, if i lose a limb i'd probably want to be killed.
 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
remind me to make a living will

Amen to that. I am definitely going to have a DNR and all that jazz that states that if I'm not going to make it, pull the plug, so my body/soul/family can get on with it. What is happening to this woman is so sad and it makes me sick that politicians get involved in this.
 

NFS4

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Just pull the plug already. If it were me, and I couldn't do anything but stare and had to be fed through a tube and piss in a bag, I'd call the grim reaper myself
 

Vic

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These people have an odd view about what "life" is. But then again, the Pope thinks that being kept alive by modern medical machines is somehow "God's Will" and that removing those machines is "suicide"... :roll:
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: anxi80
Doctors have ruled she is in a persistent vegetative state with no hope for recovery.
just let her go.
Her parents refuse to believe that. They think she will just miracleously wake up completely normal, like nothing ever happened.

She won't and I know about this from personal experience.
 

RaDragon

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Originally posted by: Vic
These people have an odd view about what "life" is. But then again, the Pope thinks that being kept alive by modern medical machines is somehow "God's Will" and that removing those machines is "suicide"... :roll:

Really, or is that just your understanding of it?
 

DaveSimmons

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Loving your child good. Keeping her alive as a vegetable against her wishes for 14 years is cruelty not love. If they're right and some tiny part of her brain is still functioning it probably is just screaming "let me die" over and over.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: anxi80
Doctors have ruled she is in a persistent vegetative state with no hope for recovery.
just let her go.
Her parents refuse to believe that. They think she will just miracleously wake up completely normal, like nothing ever happened.

She won't and I know about this from personal experience.
They are locked in denial and just don't get it. She's dead. Just a machine maintains the semblence of life now, but that isn't life and never will be. They need to free her soul and let her rest in peace.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
They think she will just miracleously wake up completely normal, like nothing ever happened.

I can just see it now. She turns her head and looks into her mother's eyes...she opens her mouth and says

"I wuz juz fvckin' wit ya!"
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: RaDragon
Originally posted by: Vic
These people have an odd view about what "life" is. But then again, the Pope thinks that being kept alive by modern medical machines is somehow "God's Will" and that removing those machines is "suicide"... :roll:

Really, or is that just your understanding of it?
The lawyer for the parents also said he is preparing a motion to ask the U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) to consider the family's claim that Terri Schiavo should be spared based on statements by Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II that people in vegetative states have a right to nutrition and hydration. They say Terri, as a practicing Roman Catholic, would have obeyed the pope and would not choose to have her tube removed.

This paragraph says it all. The Pope is being ridiculous. He is just pushing life at all costs, including commonsense.

The family is really grasping at straws in their belief she will wake up fine.
 

Boze

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Doctors have ruled she is in a persistent vegetative state with no hope for recovery.
Call me the world's greatest optimist, but I don't believe in the words 'no hope'. As long as at least one human being gives a damn about something, there's a glimmer of hope, no matter what it is that person cares about.
I can't speak for this woman, her parents, or her husband, and I defintely don't give a damn about how the church feels, but I would want to be kept alive as long as medicine would allow, in the hope that one day, medical science would have progressed far enough to repair the damage done to me.
 

RaDragon

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: RaDragon
Originally posted by: Vic
These people have an odd view about what "life" is. But then again, the Pope thinks that being kept alive by modern medical machines is somehow "God's Will" and that removing those machines is "suicide"... :roll:

Really, or is that just your understanding of it?
The lawyer for the parents also said he is preparing a motion to ask the U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) to consider the family's claim that Terri Schiavo should be spared based on statements by Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II that people in vegetative states have a right to nutrition and hydration. They say Terri, as a practicing Roman Catholic, would have obeyed the pope and would not choose to have her tube removed.

This paragraph says it all. The Pope is being ridiculous. He is just pushing life at all costs, including commonsense.

The family is really grasping at straws in their belief she will wake up fine.

Thanks, IW.


Originally posted by: Boze
Doctors have ruled she is in a persistent vegetative state with no hope for recovery.
Call me the world's greatest optimist, but I don't believe in the words 'no hope'. As long as at least one human being gives a damn about something, there's a glimmer of hope, no matter what it is that person cares about.
I can't speak for this woman, her parents, or her husband, and I defintely don't give a damn about how the church feels, but I would want to be kept alive as long as medicine would allow, in the hope that one day, medical science would have progressed far enough to repair the damage done to me.

Well said!

I'm still going to sign a DNR or wear a yellow band :)
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: RaDragon
Originally posted by: Vic
These people have an odd view about what "life" is. But then again, the Pope thinks that being kept alive by modern medical machines is somehow "God's Will" and that removing those machines is "suicide"... :roll:

Really, or is that just your understanding of it?
The lawyer for the parents also said he is preparing a motion to ask the U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) to consider the family's claim that Terri Schiavo should be spared based on statements by Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II that people in vegetative states have a right to nutrition and hydration. They say Terri, as a practicing Roman Catholic, would have obeyed the pope and would not choose to have her tube removed.

This paragraph says it all. The Pope is being ridiculous. He is just pushing life at all costs, including commonsense.

The family is really grasping at straws in their belief she will wake up fine.

Since when does the Pope have any say-so in the US judicial system?
 

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They should just give her an overdose of morphine so she doesn't have to stay alive for a few days without food and water.
 

RaDragon

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: RaDragon
Originally posted by: Vic
These people have an odd view about what "life" is. But then again, the Pope thinks that being kept alive by modern medical machines is somehow "God's Will" and that removing those machines is "suicide"... :roll:

Really, or is that just your understanding of it?
The lawyer for the parents also said he is preparing a motion to ask the U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) to consider the family's claim that Terri Schiavo should be spared based on statements by Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II that people in vegetative states have a right to nutrition and hydration. They say Terri, as a practicing Roman Catholic, would have obeyed the pope and would not choose to have her tube removed.

This paragraph says it all. The Pope is being ridiculous. He is just pushing life at all costs, including commonsense.

The family is really grasping at straws in their belief she will wake up fine.

Since when does the Pope have any say-so in the US judicial system?

Religious freedom?
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
remind me to make a living will
I thought this was a good idea until I realized I have nothing in my name except lots of unpaid student loans :frown:

As for the topid, I'd agree....its cruel to let a person "live" like this, expecially if she's expressed wishes to be disconnected (as the article mentions).
 

rh71

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I feel sad that the parents don't realize their daughter is already dead. I feel worse for the husband who has to deal with all of it. That $1mil deal throws an interesting wrench in it though.
 

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: RaDragon
Originally posted by: Vic
These people have an odd view about what "life" is. But then again, the Pope thinks that being kept alive by modern medical machines is somehow "God's Will" and that removing those machines is "suicide"... :roll:

Really, or is that just your understanding of it?
The lawyer for the parents also said he is preparing a motion to ask the U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) to consider the family's claim that Terri Schiavo should be spared based on statements by Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II that people in vegetative states have a right to nutrition and hydration. They say Terri, as a practicing Roman Catholic, would have obeyed the pope and would not choose to have her tube removed.

This paragraph says it all. The Pope is being ridiculous. He is just pushing life at all costs, including commonsense.

The family is really grasping at straws in their belief she will wake up fine.

There are documented cases of spontanious recovery. Is it likely? No.

Im a bit torn on this case. Considering the "husband" has a fiance, and multiple kids. I dont think he should have had guardian ship all these years nor do I believe the courts should have allowed him to exhaust the medical trust fund to pay for his lawyers in an effort to terminate her life.
 

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i can sort of see why Clint made the Catholic Church/pope look stupid in million dollar baby when he makes comments like that.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: rh71
I feel sad that the parents don't realize their daughter is already dead. I feel worse for the husband who has to deal with all of it. That $1mil deal throws an interesting wrench in it though.

Considering he has a fiance and multiple kids with her, I dont know why you feel "worse" for him.
 

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Im a bit torn on this case. Considering the "husband" has a fiance, and multiple kids. I dont think he should have had guardian ship all these years nor do I believe the courts should have allowed him to exhaust the medical trust fund to pay for his lawyers in an effort to terminate her life.
His wife has been a vegetable since 1990, do you think it's wrong for him to have a fiance in 2005? He is trying to carry out his wife's wishes, the parents are keeping her shell alive.

"The court has consistently upheld lower court rulings that Terri Schiavo had expressed wishes not to be kept alive artificially, although she left no written directive."

Why not honor her wishes?
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: rh71
I feel sad that the parents don't realize their daughter is already dead. I feel worse for the husband who has to deal with all of it. That $1mil deal throws an interesting wrench in it though.

Considering he has a fiance and multiple kids with her, I dont know why you feel "worse" for him.

He can't get married if his wife is still alive.