Rifle recomendations

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: Xafgoat
The AK47. When you absolutely positively have to kill every motherfvcker in a room... accept no substitute

actually, I already have a SKS, which is very similar.

And even more useless....and I have both rifles in my collection. If you want a good hunting rifle then you should look at a nice bolt action unit with polymer stock and a scope. Take a look at Winchester and Remington. I would suggest either a 30-06 or 270 caliber.

Sorry, but IMO a .30-06 is not a good beginner gun. Especially for Wisconsin hunting.

OP- Which county? Some do not allow rifles.

Of course a 30-06 is fine for a beginning hunting rifle if the person in question is not a child. Adults don't need to start with a 243 and move up to a 30-06, this isn't a motorcycle. Any decent sized teenager should be able to handle a 30-06. My neighbor bought his 16 year old a 270 and he killed his first deer with it this season and a 270 has a very similar kick to a 30-06.

In Wisconsin a lot of deer hunting is shotgun with slugs only IIRC, but I have never lived there. Some places have different season times for different weapons.

I'm 21 for the record.

 

[Sundog]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Of course a 30-06 is fine for a beginning hunting rifle if the person in question is not a child. Adults don't need to start with a 243 and move up to a 30-06, this isn't a motorcycle. Any decent sized teenager should be able to handle a 30-06. My neighbor bought his 16 year old a 270 and he killed his first deer with it this season and a 270 has a very similar kick to a 30-06.

In Wisconsin a lot of deer hunting is shotgun with slugs only IIRC, but I have never lived there. Some places have different season times for different weapons.

Being serious, not sarcastic....don't you think a 30-06 is a little overkill for brush hunting (Wisconsin)?

 

[Jon855]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: Xafgoat
The AK47. When you absolutely positively have to kill every motherfvcker in a room... accept no substitute

actually, I already have a SKS, which is very similar.

And even more useless....and I have both rifles in my collection. If you want a good hunting rifle then you should look at a nice bolt action unit with polymer stock and a scope. Take a look at Winchester and Remington. I would suggest either a 30-06 or 270 caliber.

Sorry, but IMO a .30-06 is not a good beginner gun. Especially for Wisconsin hunting.

OP- Which county? Some do not allow rifles.

Of course a 30-06 is fine for a beginning hunting rifle if the person in question is not a child. Adults don't need to start with a 243 and move up to a 30-06, this isn't a motorcycle. Any decent sized teenager should be able to handle a 30-06. My neighbor bought his 16 year old a 270 and he killed his first deer with it this season and a 270 has a very similar kick to a 30-06.

In Wisconsin a lot of deer hunting is shotgun with slugs only IIRC, but I have never lived there. Some places have different season times for different weapons.

I was 14 when I got my .270 and then when I was 16 I exchanged it for .300 Win Mag. it really depends on the shooter IMO. In all .30-06 would be a great starter rifle. True there are different seasons for which weapon you could use to hunt... That being said, I'm sure there is a rifle season for Whitetails... Although I don't know when that starts in Mich.

So sorry I couldn't sell u my rifle, I sold it to a friend for 400 [Model 70 .300 Win Mag with Leupold Var-X II Scope 3-9x30 Scope...

 

[Jon855]

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Of course a 30-06 is fine for a beginning hunting rifle if the person in question is not a child. Adults don't need to start with a 243 and move up to a 30-06, this isn't a motorcycle. Any decent sized teenager should be able to handle a 30-06. My neighbor bought his 16 year old a 270 and he killed his first deer with it this season and a 270 has a very similar kick to a 30-06.

In Wisconsin a lot of deer hunting is shotgun with slugs only IIRC, but I have never lived there. Some places have different season times for different weapons.

Being serious, not sarcastic....don't you think a 30-06 is a little overkill for brush hunting (Wisconsin)?

I'm dead serious, .30-06 is a perfect round. Not over kill IMO. I used to hunt whitetails with my .300 Win Mag and for me it wasn't overkill. I use the same rifle to hunt for Elk and it wasn't overkill either. It's the shot placement that counts the most.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

I'm looking at thr 710 right now. It looks like ass but it is in the right price range.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Of course a 30-06 is fine for a beginning hunting rifle if the person in question is not a child. Adults don't need to start with a 243 and move up to a 30-06, this isn't a motorcycle. Any decent sized teenager should be able to handle a 30-06. My neighbor bought his 16 year old a 270 and he killed his first deer with it this season and a 270 has a very similar kick to a 30-06.

In Wisconsin a lot of deer hunting is shotgun with slugs only IIRC, but I have never lived there. Some places have different season times for different weapons.

Being serious, not sarcastic....don't you think a 30-06 is a little overkill for brush hunting (Wisconsin)?

I find 30-06 to be a fine choice for deer hunting. You suggest maybe a slingshot and a rock?

 

[Jon855]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
I'm looking at thr 710 right now. It looks like ass but it is in the right price range.

I wouldn't mind the 710 but my only gripe is the scope... it might will not hold position very well after few hard shots. Scope's very important, spend some 200+ on a good scope. you could try and look at this scope Mueller Sport Dot 3-10x44mm which goes for 179.99 and its lenses are pretty good for the prices. I would suggest higher glasses but your budget doesn't allows for it. Let us know what you've decided.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Jon855

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
I'm looking at thr 710 right now. It looks like ass but it is in the right price range.

I wouldn't mind the 710 but my only gripe is the scope... it might will not hold position very well after few hard shots. Scope's very important, spend some 200+ on a good scope. you could try and look at this scope Mueller Sport Dot 3-10x44mm which goes for 179.99 and its lenses are pretty good for the prices. I would suggest higher glasses but your budget doesn't allows for it. Let us know what you've decided.

Any way to get the 710 without a scope for cheaper than the $450 then? Or a very similar gun?

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
I'm looking at thr 710 right now. It looks like ass but it is in the right price range.

HAHAHA....that is what a hunting rifle looks like. You are too used to military type guns and the ones you see in the action movies. The 710 will be more accurate at 300 yards than an SKS is at 50.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Mosin Nagant

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Mosin Nagant

No, I have one of those too and although nice it is no hunting rifle.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Mosin Nagant

If anyone in this thread "bubbas" a Mosin, I will find you.

 

[Jon855]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: Jon855

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
I'm looking at thr 710 right now. It looks like ass but it is in the right price range.

I wouldn't mind the 710 but my only gripe is the scope... it might will not hold position very well after few hard shots. Scope's very important, spend some 200+ on a good scope. you could try and look at this scope Mueller Sport Dot 3-10x44mm which goes for 179.99 and its lenses are pretty good for the prices. I would suggest higher glasses but your budget doesn't allows for it. Let us know what you've decided.

Any way to get the 710 without a scope for cheaper than the $450 then? Or a very similar gun?

I believe this is a package deal from Remington. Sorry I couldn't be much of a help in the budget you have. I'm more keen in the scopes rather than the rifle itself. Rifles for most part today are either MOA or Sub-MOA out of the box.

I currently sport couples of rifles and the newest is a Savage 12BVVS .22-250 and it's zero'ed at 400m @ .48 MOA I would be more than happy to help you look for a better deal and so on forth but in the meantime I best be getting to bed now. Good night. PM me if you need anything.

 

[Sundog]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Of course a 30-06 is fine for a beginning hunting rifle if the person in question is not a child. Adults don't need to start with a 243 and move up to a 30-06, this isn't a motorcycle. Any decent sized teenager should be able to handle a 30-06. My neighbor bought his 16 year old a 270 and he killed his first deer with it this season and a 270 has a very similar kick to a 30-06.

In Wisconsin a lot of deer hunting is shotgun with slugs only IIRC, but I have never lived there. Some places have different season times for different weapons.

Being serious, not sarcastic....don't you think a 30-06 is a little overkill for brush hunting (Wisconsin)?

I find 30-06 to be a fine choice for deer hunting. You suggest maybe a slingshot and a rock?

No, I just have never used my 30-06 for short range shooting in the brush. My 30-30 works much better IMO. I use my 30-06 when hunting muley or antelope and need long range. Smart-ass...

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
I'm looking at thr 710 right now. It looks like ass but it is in the right price range.

HAHAHA....that is what a hunting rifle looks like. You are too used to military type guns and the ones you see in the action movies. The 710 will be more accurate at 300 yards than an SKS is at 50.

Sorry, i've really only handled military rifles, so that's just my opinion. And using SKS and accurate in the same sentence is a crime. Oh, and the turky-camo'd guns make me want to cry.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Jon855

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: Jon855

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
I'm looking at thr 710 right now. It looks like ass but it is in the right price range.

I wouldn't mind the 710 but my only gripe is the scope... it might will not hold position very well after few hard shots. Scope's very important, spend some 200+ on a good scope. you could try and look at this scope Mueller Sport Dot 3-10x44mm which goes for 179.99 and its lenses are pretty good for the prices. I would suggest higher glasses but your budget doesn't allows for it. Let us know what you've decided.

Any way to get the 710 without a scope for cheaper than the $450 then? Or a very similar gun?

I believe this is a package deal from Remington. Sorry I couldn't be much of a help in the budget you have. I'm more keen in the scopes rather than the rifle itself. Rifles for most part today are either MOA or Sub-MOA out of the box.

I currently sport couples of rifles and the newest is a Savage 12BVVS .22-250 and it's zero'ed at 400m @ .48 MOA I would be more than happy to help you look for a better deal and so on forth but in the meantime I best be getting to bed now. Good night. PM me if you need anything.

I'll shoot you a PM, feel free to respond any time.

 

[desy]

Do not buy a 710 known as POS's by anybody serious about hunting

Link to a budget gun discussion
The 30/06 is just fine in fact Federal and Remminton are making reduced recoil rounds as factory options perfectly fine for deer under 200 yrds then you will always have the option for Moose or Elk, its too small for Grizzly ideally.

A niced used rifle from gun broker would be good and when they say like new they usually mean it nobody wants a bad rep when it comes to firearms . Optics should cost as much as the rifle Leupold is the gold standard for price and outstanding warranty but Weaver and Bushell elites 3200's or Nikon offer real bang for the buck. No pun intended. Or you could go nuts and get Zeiss Kahles or Swarovski $$$$$.

 

[DarkKnight69]

Personally, I like a 30-30 for brush hunting...shorter range but seems like it deals with twigs and growths better!

 

[bernse]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: Xafgoat
The AK47. When you absolutely positively have to kill every motherfvcker in a room... accept no substitute

actually, I already have a SKS, which is very similar.

[nitpick]
Other than caliber, an AK has virtually nothing in common with an AK. maybe.. MAYBE if you get really, really drunk and squint really, really hard, you might see a slight resemblence, but if you can do that you'd probably also notice a startling resemblence to a P99 and a Hi-Power.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: bernse

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: Xafgoat
The AK47. When you absolutely positively have to kill every motherfvcker in a room... accept no substitute

actually, I already have a SKS, which is very similar.

[nitpick]
Other than caliber, an AK has virtually nothing in common with an AK. maybe.. MAYBE if you get really, really drunk and squint really, really hard, you might see a slight resemblence, but if you can do that you'd probably also notice a startling resemblence to a P99 and a Hi-Power.

I was going by the caliber and general style (spray and pray) of the rifle, not actual specifics. Regardless, both are not too accurate (and not made to be).

 

[Vegito]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

And even more useless....and I have both rifles in my collection. If you want a good hunting rifle then you should look at a nice bolt action unit with polymer stock and a scope. Take a look at Winchester and Remington. I would suggest either a 30-06 or 270 caliber.

:thumbsup::thumbsup: 30-06... have same with armor piercing ammo.. nice and cheap.. i got remington 700s

 

[sao123]

The winchester model 70 .270 short-magnum is the pennsylvania weapon of choice for white-tailed deer hunting. It is both high powered and long ranged...Making it an excellent multipurpose rifle. It can be used for Deer, Bear, Groundhogs, and other rifle game.