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Rick Reilly: No question, Utah is the national champion

They beat one solid team, give me a break.

edit: Plus the gators took a lot of wind out of Alabama.
 
Top 16 ranked teams in the BCS need to have a playoff.. end of story.

8vs8, 4vs4, 2vs2, 1v1.. UP TO four extra games.. big deal.. shave off one game from the season on average..

 
Originally posted by: srp49ers
They beat one solid team, give me a break.

edit: Plus the gators took a lot of wind out of Alabama.
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You mean the same team fla beat to vault them into the NCG? After losing at home to Miss? At home. To Miss.

TCU & BYU were not pushovers, they were/are ranked.
 
Under the current system, I agree completely. Utah should be the national champ. This year, however, has driven home the need for a playoff. Seriously, I can't wait for the BCS sympathizers and organizers to come out start defending the system. It sucks.

The AP should stick it to the BCS and make Utah #1.
 
Originally posted by: srp49ers
They beat one solid team, give me a break.

edit: Plus the gators took a lot of wind out of Alabama.
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The point is that you will never know who the best team really is.
 
Originally posted by: srp49ers
They beat one solid team, give me a break.

edit: Plus the gators took a lot of wind out of Alabama.
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They beat the then-ranked #12, #16, #4 teams in the country.

Don't make excuses for Alabama. They got owned so hard.
 
People supporting the BCS system need to have their heads checked. Anyone who thinks having a computer system + opinions determine those who play for a national championship is seriously deluding theirself.
 
The point is....

You need a playoff. Every other division in College Football does it (NAIA, DIII, DII, DI-FCS), and every division in every other sport has a playoff. DI-FBS does not have a playoff thus it does not have an NCAA official Champion, only "mythical ones" (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...football_championship).

A playoff would make college football even more money, the problem is that the wealth would be spread out because every team is given an opportunity, not just those in the BCS conferences. Also the owners of the small bowls may be in trouble, but they could still have those weak games if they wanted to. Can't get any weaker than they currently are.
 
Originally posted by: Legendary
People supporting the BCS system need to have their heads checked. Anyone who thinks having a computer system + opinions determine those who play for a national championship is seriously deluding theirself.
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No doubt, but anyone claiming Utah as the champ over Florida/Oklahoma in the current system is just as deluded.
 
Originally posted by: Playmaker
Originally posted by: Legendary
People supporting the BCS system need to have their heads checked. Anyone who thinks having a computer system + opinions determine those who play for a national championship is seriously deluding theirself.
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No doubt, but anyone claiming Utah as the champ over Florida/Oklahoma in the current system is just as deluded.
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This.
 
Originally posted by: skim milk
Originally posted by: Playmaker
Originally posted by: Legendary
People supporting the BCS system need to have their heads checked. Anyone who thinks having a computer system + opinions determine those who play for a national championship is seriously deluding theirself.
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No doubt, but anyone claiming Utah as the champ over Florida/Oklahoma in the current system is just as deluded.
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This.
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The current system allows for a contested National Championship just like it always has. The BCS just makes it slightly less likely. Utah has a very strong case for being National Champion considering their schedule and the fact that they're the only unbeaten remaining. I'm really not sure what part of this confuses you guys.
 
well you could argue texas should be in the champion ship game.
hell if Oklohoma wins you could argue texas beat them pretty bad so we deserve the title.

a playoff would definatly be fun.
 
All in all, this really shows how flawed the BCS systems is, not that everybody didn't already know that.
 
Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
well you could argue texas should be in the champion ship game.
hell if Oklohoma wins you could argue texas beat them pretty bad so we deserve the title.

a playoff would definatly be fun.
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and if OSU falls down to kill clock and kick a winning FG then they move on in the supposed playoffs instead of Texas...and they could be #1 if they win out...

Same goes for 4 loss Virginia Tech - they won their game and would still be alive in a playoff system.

This is why the NFL owns NCAA so hard. You get wild card sixth and fifth seeds winning two of the past three Superbowls...and no one cries about "oh but so and so team really was the best!" Instead of best team ever, it was 18-1 Superbowl losing Patriots. To a fifth seed. College needs playoffs.
 
I'm so effing sick of hearing this. Utah would be destroyed even in the PAC-10, much less the SEC. I'll give them a top 5 ranking for sure, but national champion? Come on. You're hitting the bottle a little bit too hard if that's really what you think.

As an aside, USC would absolutely demolish Utah.
 
This is one more reason for me to dislike Utah in addition to all their whining about being unrecognized as the best.

Utah's attorney general is investigating the BCS for a possible violation of federal antitrust laws after the undefeated Utes were left out of the national title game for the second time in five years.

Attorney General Mark Shurtleff contends the BCS unfairly puts schools like Utah, which is a member of a conference without an automatic bid to the lucrative bowl games, at a competitive and financial disadvantage.
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Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/.../news/story?id=3816001

And just to prove that Utah has nothing on SC, look at their two highest-ranked opponents this season. SC took on #5 Ohio State and beat them 35-3. Utah played #12 TCU and won 13-10. Not nearly as convincing to show you're the best team in the nation.
 
Originally posted by: aplefka
I'm so effing sick of hearing this. Utah would be destroyed even in the PAC-10, much less the SEC. I'll give them a top 5 ranking for sure, but national champion? Come on. You're hitting the bottle a little bit too hard if that's really what you think.

As an aside, USC would absolutely demolish Utah.
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You probably right.
I doubt Utah would have an undefeated record if they played in a BCS conference.

This is why we need a playoff system b/c in a playoff game utah might upset usc, florida, ou, etc etc. If that happens no one would care what conference Utah played in.

It's all about getting close to parity as possible - that would end the neverending arguments we get almost every year.

 
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Top 16 ranked teams in the BCS need to have a playoff.. end of story.

8vs8, 4vs4, 2vs2, 1v1.. UP TO four extra games.. big deal.. shave off one game from the season on average..
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You wouldn't even have to shave a game off... Nobody plays in December. Occasionally you have a conference championship the first weekend in December. Just skip the round of 16 and go straight to the elite eight. Eight teams is enough to eliminate the doubt.

And USC would destroy Utah...
 
Originally posted by: dbk
Originally posted by: aplefka
I'm so effing sick of hearing this. Utah would be destroyed even in the PAC-10, much less the SEC. I'll give them a top 5 ranking for sure, but national champion? Come on. You're hitting the bottle a little bit too hard if that's really what you think.

As an aside, USC would absolutely demolish Utah.
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You probably right.
I doubt Utah would have an undefeated record if they played in a BCS conference.

This is why we need a playoff system b/c in a playoff game utah might upset usc, florida, ou, etc etc. If that happens no one would care what conference Utah played in.

It's all about getting close to parity as possible - that would end the neverending arguments we get almost every year.
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Agreed completely. An upset in a playoff system would seem so much more legitimate than an upset now because you'd have to prove yourself as a better team 3-4 games versus 1.

Granted, an upset is still an upset, and Bama should be embarrassed. I just don't think it makes Utah the best team in the nation by any means.
 
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