RIAA: You've read about it, but how do we protect ourselves?

[LeeTJ]

www.buymusic.com

 

[boyRacer]

just download porn... not music.

 

[RIGorous1]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Nevertheless, situations like this if you really are just backing-up your files, then are you safe even if you get subpoenaed?

IIRC, no. You can have a backup copy of the cd you bought from that cd, but you can't download the MP3's of it. The backup must come from the copy you have.

So rip the mp3's from the original CD you already own. How hard is that? Hell, that takes me less than 3 minutes per CD now.

And it's now downloading that the RIAA is going after, it's file-sharing, i.e. those who make copyrighted files available for uploading.

Yeah, 3 minutes today... but 3 years ago the figure was more like 10-15 minutes each ... not to mention you've got to find the cd you want, and what if you don't want to make a exact clone of the cd, what if you want to combine the tracks you have on to one cd... I can think of plenty of artists who had one hit wonders. So, you tell me what is easier, pulling every cd you want to combine out, or typing in a simple search and double clicking on the song you want.


And for those who said that the quality is lower, obviously you don't understand the theory behind mp3's.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Stop stealing

Nobody is stealing. P2P programs violate COPYRIGHT LAWS, not theft. Theft is defined as the REMOVAL OF PROPERTY. Nothing is being removed. It is being copied.

Fine Sparky, then stop violating copyright laws.

Who said that he was? And where did he advocate violating copyright laws? He advocated Fair Use is all I saw. And he advised AGAINST downloading. Where is your issue?

Thread title:"RIAA: You've read about it, but how do we protect ourselves?"
My response: "Stop stealing"
FFMCounterStrikeMaster decides to get high and mighty with his technical definition.

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Stop stealing

Nobody is stealing. P2P programs violate COPYRIGHT LAWS, not theft. Theft is defined as the REMOVAL OF PROPERTY. Nothing is being removed. It is being copied.

Fine Sparky, then stop violating copyright laws.

Who said that he was? And where did he advocate violating copyright laws? He advocated Fair Use is all I saw. And he advised AGAINST downloading. Where is your issue?

Thread title:"RIAA: You've read about it, but how do we protect ourselves?"
My response: "Stop stealing"
FFMCounterStrikeMaster decides to get high and mighty with his technical definition.

man you are a goof

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Nevertheless, situations like this if you really are just backing-up your files, then are you safe even if you get subpoenaed?

IIRC, no. You can have a backup copy of the cd you bought from that cd, but you can't download the MP3's of it. The backup must come from the copy you have.

So rip the mp3's from the original CD you already own. How hard is that? Hell, that takes me less than 3 minutes per CD now.

yea, well some of us have messy rooms

 

[AznMaverick]

what if i d/l some korean dramas and use a ton of bandwidth u think i'll look suspiscious?

 

[NogginBoink]

Gee, if you want to protect yourself from criminal prosecution, my advice would be to not commit crimes.

But hey, what do I know.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: jfano

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Stop stealing

Nobody is stealing. P2P programs violate COPYRIGHT LAWS, not theft. Theft is defined as the REMOVAL OF PROPERTY. Nothing is being removed. It is being copied.

Fine Sparky, then stop violating copyright laws.

Who said that he was? And where did he advocate violating copyright laws? He advocated Fair Use is all I saw. And he advised AGAINST downloading. Where is your issue?

Thread title:"RIAA: You've read about it, but how do we protect ourselves?"
My response: "Stop stealing"
FFMCounterStrikeMaster decides to get high and mighty with his technical definition.

man you are a goof

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: RIGorous1

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Nevertheless, situations like this if you really are just backing-up your files, then are you safe even if you get subpoenaed?

IIRC, no. You can have a backup copy of the cd you bought from that cd, but you can't download the MP3's of it. The backup must come from the copy you have.

So rip the mp3's from the original CD you already own. How hard is that? Hell, that takes me less than 3 minutes per CD now.

And it's not downloading that the RIAA is going after, it's file-sharing, i.e. those who make copyrighted files available for uploading.

Yeah, 3 minutes today... but 3 years ago the figure was more like 10-15 minutes each ... not to mention you've got to find the cd you want, and what if you want to make a exact clone of the cd, what if you want to combine the tracks you have on to one cd... I can think of plenty of artists who had one hit wonders. So, you tell me what is easier, pulling every cd you want to combine out, or typing in a simple search and double clicking on the song you want.


And for those who said that the quality is lower, obviously you don't understand the theory behind mp3's.

If you want to listen to copyrighted music, then you need to pay for it. End of story. Just because you don't like all the songs on the CD is no excuse. If you like that one-hit wonder and you want to own it, then you have to buy the whole CD. It is not a question of cost, but of value. If that one song is worth the cost of the whole CD, then buy it. If it's not, then you really don't like that one song that much, now do you?
And I've been ripping CDs to mp3 since it was done in DOS and took well over an hour per CD (my P200MMX 6+ years ago could rip 192kbps at 1-2x -- woohoo!). And I've been burning clone copies and mix CDs since burners ran at 4x and cost $500 bucks. Once again, we have a question of value. If you don't like the music enough to spend as little as a few minutes ripping and burning it (much less paying for it), then you really don't like the music that much, now do you?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Thread title:"RIAA: You've read about it, but how do we protect ourselves?"
My response: "Stop stealing"
FFMCounterStrikeMaster decides to get high and mighty with his technical definition.

The crucial difference here is that stealing is criminal and copyright infringement is civil.

Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Gee, if you want to protect yourself from criminal prosecution, my advice would be to not commit crimes.

But hey, what do I know.

Obviously not much. Crimes are not being committed. The RIAA is preparing subpeonas for civil action, i.e. lawsuits.

 

[silverpig]

Guys, the RIAA isn't going after downloaders of mp3s, they are going after the people who share them. Quick solution: unshare your mp3 folder and use a different program if you want to share them. Once you hear the RIAA is going after that program, jump to another...

 

[RIGorous1]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: RIGorous1

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Nevertheless, situations like this if you really are just backing-up your files, then are you safe even if you get subpoenaed?

IIRC, no. You can have a backup copy of the cd you bought from that cd, but you can't download the MP3's of it. The backup must come from the copy you have.

So rip the mp3's from the original CD you already own. How hard is that? Hell, that takes me less than 3 minutes per CD now.

And it's not downloading that the RIAA is going after, it's file-sharing, i.e. those who make copyrighted files available for uploading.

Yeah, 3 minutes today... but 3 years ago the figure was more like 10-15 minutes each ... not to mention you've got to find the cd you want, and what if you want to make a exact clone of the cd, what if you want to combine the tracks you have on to one cd... I can think of plenty of artists who had one hit wonders. So, you tell me what is easier, pulling every cd you want to combine out, or typing in a simple search and double clicking on the song you want.


And for those who said that the quality is lower, obviously you don't understand the theory behind mp3's.

If you want to listen to copyrighted music, then you need to pay for it. End of story. Just because you don't like all the songs on the CD is no excuse. If you like that one-hit wonder and you want to own it, then you have to buy the whole CD. It is not a question of cost, but of value. If that one song is worth the cost of the whole CD, then buy it. If it's not, then you really don't like that one song that much, now do you?
And I've been ripping CDs to mp3 since it was done in DOS and took well over an hour per CD (my P200MMX 6+ years ago could rip 192kbps at 1-2x -- woohoo!). And I've been burning clone copies and mix CDs since burners ran at 4x and cost $500 bucks. Once again, we have a question of value. If you don't like the music enough to spend as little as a few minutes ripping and burning it (much less paying for it), then you really don't like the music that much, now do you?

I think you've misread me. I DO own the music I download, even the one hit wonders. For me its a question of convience, spend days trying to organize all my cd's (come to my house an I'll easily show you 2000) or doing a simple search and double clicking.

And if you think contrary then you don't know me, or you need a life because most people will not waste time on superfluous steps like that.

 

[xEDIT409]

would ZONEALARM help?

 

[her209]

Scratch your butt and sniff it.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
I think you've misread me. I DO own the music I download, even the one hit wonders. For me its a question of convience, spend days trying to organize all my cd's (come to my house an I'll easily show you 2000) or doing a simple search and double clicking.

And if you think contrary then you don't know me, or you need a life because most people will not waste time on superfluous steps like that.

I find it odd that you think that downloading is more convenient that ripping (or even organizing) your CD collection. I have thousands of CDs, tapes, and vinyl myself and if you came to my house you would find them meticulously organized. You might think that means I have no life

, I consider it protecting my substantial music investment. And you do get MUCH better rips if you do them yourself.

 

[Kaervak]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ
www.buymusic.com

I just saw a commercial for that. They had a bunch of lame ass white people doing the Sugarhill Gang's Rappers Delight. So wrong, we're white, we don't rap. When we do rap it's a travesty.

 

[Acanthus]

Proxy servers are your friend!

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: xEDIT409
would ZONEALARM help?

BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!



:beer: <-- that's for you for making me laugh so damn hard.