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RIAA reaches new low?

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: God Mode
You dont escape the law by being in the hospital. I dont give a shit if she lost her puppies and had to get both legs amputated. If shes guilty of the charges and ignored the lawsuit then she deserves whatever comes from it.
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I'm not disagreeing with you.

But what if that money is the difference between getting the medical procedures she needs. Lets pretend that if she doesn't have that money, she won't be able to afford to live.
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Then she should rob a bank to pay the medical bills and keep herself alive.

Right?

I think that makes sense. 😉
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No, you pirate medical audio books and cure yourself.
 
Originally posted by: Syringer
RIAA reaches new low? Topic Summary: sues 19 y/o w/ pancreatis and in need of transplate...
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Right, because when your ISP responds to a subpoena for your personal information such as name and address, the ISP also supplies your confidential medical records and health status along with your internet logs, natch. I know my ISP is able to provide private health information about me. Its not like federally protected or anything. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: sash1
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
But 10 songs? Bit whoopie do. Give me a break.



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RIAA: Bring it on bitches. I'm healthy, I have some money, I know multiple lawyers. Stop picking on people who can't defend themselves.
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fixed your link + nice 1.79 TB of space 😛
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pffft he's not even using 1/2 of it though. Lightweight!
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That's because he's got you fooled. That's how much subpoenaed data he's gotten from the ISPs server logs so far. It takes time to collate evidence. Better put on your sunglasses and hide 😎
 
Maybe I missed something, she was never proven to have downloaded any music. Merely being accused does not make one guilty after all. Somehow, I think a frivolous lawsuit from an antiquated organization would rank pretty low if I was in the hospital on a weekly basis. Did she totally ignore the court summons? There wasn't some sort of postpone-ment paperwork that she could have filed to delay a trial until she was healthy?
 
IIRC in one of the other articles I read the RIAA didn't win, the judge awarded a default against Ciara because she didn't respond sufficiently quickly, which is understandable since she was in hospital...

Ciara Sauro strongly denies the charge and says she and her mother are overwhelmed with medical debts.

"Look and see where it (the downloads) came from, and look and see that it's not me. It's not fair to do to me,"
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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
IIRC in one of the other articles I read the RIAA didn't win, the judge awarded a default against Ciara because she didn't respond sufficiently quickly, which is understandable since she was in hospital...

Ciara Sauro strongly denies the charge and says she and her mother are overwhelmed with medical debts.

"Look and see where it (the downloads) came from, and look and see that it's not me. It's not fair to do to me,"
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Bingo. It's also well known that the methods used to gather the 'proof' of piracy are wildly inaccurate and the companies who gather said information do it neither legally nor legitimately.

IP rights holders are the new big oil as far as lobbying goes. Just look at the new 'Copyright Czar' position Bush created.
 
Originally posted by: xcript
She knew the risks. :roll:
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All the RIAA employees know they are part of a very unpopular organisation. Which means that there should be no punishment for killing them, they know the risks 😀
 
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Yeah, not going to get a lot of sympathy from me. If you want to download, you better be willing to pay the price. The circumstances surrounding her life are irrelevant.

I guess it's bad PR, but RIAA has totally destroyed their public image, so I doubt they really care.

However, I do think that the settlements and statutory damages for cases like this are insane. If I had my way, she'd pay market price for her downloads. 10 songs = $10 check to RIAA.
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I think if you pirated and got caught, then you should pay. Not to the extent those RIAA poopbuckets want though. I'd say something along what you suggested, or even slightly harsher like a $50 fine + MSRP on CD's.
 
Originally posted by: ribbon13
I always get images of shooting lawyers in my head... Take a lawyer by his tail and hang him from a tree and burn him alive so his screams scare off his fellows... Oh wait, that was rats.. Oh well, might as well try it and see if it works in this case too.
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While you're busy shooting people, can you stop by the White Plains office of the New York DMV? I know that it's a bit of a drive, but I REALLY hate those bitches.
 
Originally posted by: God Mode
You dont escape the law by being in the hospital. I dont give a shit if she lost her puppies and had to get both legs amputated. If shes guilty of the charges and ignored the lawsuit then she deserves whatever comes from it.
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Uh yeah... "ignored the lawsuit". Did you even read the article? She was a little busy with things like ... oh ... fighting for her life and didn't have money to contest the suit. In this economy, there are a lot of people who could simply not afford $5000 to defend themselves in a suit like this, innocent or guilty. Not having $5000 available for something like that does not make one guilty of anything, but our legal system is set up to be used as a blunt weapon against those who don't have money.
 
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Sorry for that family's situation, but you break the law, you get punished.
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So now we're assuming guilty unless proven innocent? They accused her of doing something, she was not able to defend herself in court, so they didn't even have to prove that she did anything.
 
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
This is sickning. How can the goverment allow the RIAA to get away with this shit? Oh that's right, because they probably get a cut. :/
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RIAA does not "get away with" anything. They are prosecuting somebody per the law. Do I agree with them going after this girl? No, because they could have much bigger fish to fry than this girl. That being said she did break the law, and downloaded copyrighted content illegally. She was wrong, and medical conditions shouldn't protect you from the law. It's a slippery slope if you start down that path.

What's even more sickning is people like OJ simpson get away with crime that actually affects people. How many years has he been getting away with murder now and the law doing fuck all? They seriously need to get their priorities straight.
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OJ Simpson was found not guilty. Is the justice system perfect? Of course it's not, but the fact is in this country you are innocent until proven beyond a reasonable doubt you are guilty. The prosecution did not prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. That doesn't mean he didn't kill her, but it doesn't matter. The justice system found him not guilty in her killing, so move the fuck on. Besides, he couldn't be retried for that crime. End of story get the fuck over something from ~15 years ago.

Piracy does NOT negatively affect people, murder does - go after the murderers and child molestors.
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Piracy does negatively affect people. Those people are the copyright holders (be it song writers, musicians, directors, actors, companies, etc). The difference between going after murderers and pirates is that the pirates are investigated by a private entitiy (RIAA). Killers are investigated by police, and the police have a lot of other things to worry about in addition to catching criminals.

IMO they should just legalize piracy, and abolish the RIAA altogether. I wish someone would bomb the RIAA. Actually, I'd go for dumping anthrax in the ventilation system. They can see how it is to be sick.
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Wow. Just wow. Okay first off RIAA is a private company, and the government can't abolish it. They aren't a monopoly, nor violating any kind of anti-trust laws. That being said the government can't abolish them.

Legalizing piracy? Really? How fucking stupid are you? Why would an artist/director/writer create something if they don't get any kind of financial repayment for their investment? This is a stupid idea. Grow up and stop thinking that the creators of IP shouldn't be compensated for their IP.

So now lets go BOMB a building and KILL people who are doing their jobs? Yeah we aren't in the Middle East, so how about we stop trying to kill people who are doing their jobs just because you don't agree with them.

Dump a lethal biological agent in the vents huh? Now instead of just killing people, lets make them die from anthrax. Great. You are the type of person that the PATRIOT Act was created for.

What I don't get is, why gives them so much power anyway? You know there's something wrong with the system when some company can have enough power to do shit like this legaly.
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What gives them so much power? The fact that it costs money to put out a cd/movie/etc, and they have the resources to provide what the artists need to put out content. You think the RIAA is so wrong and shit, but the market they are in has more competition then Microsoft does with Windows. The government didn't break M$ up, even though they are only one of two real options (and a third freeware option). The RIAA has much more competition from independent labels, online distribution, and hell even iTunes.

You sound like a little 14 year old kid that believes they should get whatever they want whenever they want.

BTW it's "legally", not "legaly".
 
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Sorry for that family's situation, but you break the law, you get punished.
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So now we're assuming guilty unless proven innocent? They accused her of doing something, she was not able to defend herself in court, so they didn't even have to prove that she did anything.
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She should have requested the case be heard at a later date due to extenuating circumstances which could have be proven very easily.

It doesn't matter what you're being charged with or why you didn't show up at court. You miss the hearing, you're found guilty.
 
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
But 10 songs? Bit whoopie do. Give me a break.



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RIAA: Bring it on bitches. I'm healthy, I have some money, I know multiple lawyers. Stop picking on people who can't defend themselves.
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No different than going into a store and stealing a CD.
 
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Maybe I missed something, she was never proven to have downloaded any music. Merely being accused does not make one guilty after all. Somehow, I think a frivolous lawsuit from an antiquated organization would rank pretty low if I was in the hospital on a weekly basis. Did she totally ignore the court summons? There wasn't some sort of postpone-ment paperwork that she could have filed to delay a trial until she was healthy?
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I don't think most people would know HOW to file a request for postponement with the court. Do you think that this girl and her mother could afford a lawyer to help them out?

To be fair, it's not likely the RIAA knew about the girl's situation. She probably just tossed the lawsuit into the big pile of bills she has and never looked at it again.

The judge has no choice in the matter. The RIAA still sucks donkey balls though.
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
But 10 songs? Bit whoopie do. Give me a break.



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RIAA: Bring it on bitches. I'm healthy, I have some money, I know multiple lawyers. Stop picking on people who can't defend themselves.
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No different than going into a store and stealing a CD.
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Jacking a CD from a store would result in a few hours of community service, maybe a few hundred dollar fine and an apology to the store owner. Not an $8k fine for ten songs.

I've never understood how the RIAA works. 10 songs equals $8k how? If they're adding in the number of times it was downloaded from her, it's not her fault that other people double clicked the song in Limewire to downlaod it.
 
Originally posted by: BlackTigers
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
But 10 songs? Bit whoopie do. Give me a break.



riaa_bringiton_bitches.png


RIAA: Bring it on bitches. I'm healthy, I have some money, I know multiple lawyers. Stop picking on people who can't defend themselves.
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No different than going into a store and stealing a CD.
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Jacking a CD from a store would result in a few hours of community service, maybe a few hundred dollar fine and an apology to the store owner. Not an $8k fine for ten songs.

I've never understood how the RIAA works. 10 songs equals $8k how? If they're adding in the number of times it was downloaded from her, it's not her fault that other people double clicked the song in Limewire to downlaod it.
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The same way that you can claim more then just medical costs in a malpractice/negligence case.
 
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