RIAA/MPAA having some problems with campus networks...

Wheezer

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From CDFreaks:

But here?s the fly in the ointment. Campus file-traders have learned to simply not share music on the Internet. Instead, they have resorted to sharing on their campus Intranet ? or LAN (Local Area Network.) The most popular clients students use to engage in this type of sharing is DC++ (an open source version of DirectConnect); however using Gnutella in a LAN configuration has also proven useful. Because the RIAA and MPAA have no access to campus networks, it is a virtual impossibility for them to monitor this activity.

Knowing this, college and university students are practically immune from RIAA or MPAA lawsuits as long as they share within the confines of the campus network. Considering many universities contain many thousands or tens of thousands of individuals, finding the files he or she wants is typically not a problem.

The situation is raising concerns within the RIAA and MPAA ranks, as they are impotent to deter this unauthorized file-sharing. In fact, the situation is becoming so rampant both organizations have taken the unusual step of issuing joint press releases on the issue. Additionally, the two trade organizations sent 40 letters to as many universities in 25 states addressing the issue. The letters explained the extent of the problem and what campus administrators can do to resolve the issue.


If they can't get onto private college networks how do they know how much file sharing is going on?

Besides students can easily use the old method of simply handing DVD's and CD's to each other.
 

Cooler

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
From CDFreaks:

But here?s the fly in the ointment. Campus file-traders have learned to simply not share music on the Internet. Instead, they have resorted to sharing on their campus Intranet ? or LAN (Local Area Network.) The most popular clients students use to engage in this type of sharing is DC++ (an open source version of DirectConnect); however using Gnutella in a LAN configuration has also proven useful. Because the RIAA and MPAA have no access to campus networks, it is a virtual impossibility for them to monitor this activity.

Knowing this, college and university students are practically immune from RIAA or MPAA lawsuits as long as they share within the confines of the campus network. Considering many universities contain many thousands or tens of thousands of individuals, finding the files he or she wants is typically not a problem.

The situation is raising concerns within the RIAA and MPAA ranks, as they are impotent to deter this unauthorized file-sharing. In fact, the situation is becoming so rampant both organizations have taken the unusual step of issuing joint press releases on the issue. Additionally, the two trade organizations sent 40 letters to as many universities in 25 states addressing the issue. The letters explained the extent of the problem and what campus administrators can do to resolve the issue.


If they can't get onto private college networks how do they know how much file sharing is going on?

Besides students can easily use the old method of simply handing DVD's and CD's to each other.

All they see is $$$$
 

Ronstang

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So they are complaining about something that has been going on for decades. When I was in college we had vinyl records and cassette tapes and eventually CDs. If anybody wanted a particular album all they had to do was ask their friends and being in a dorm made it even easier. I never had a problem borrowing the albums I wanted to tape or making tapes for people who wanted my albums. I have over 300 albums on vinyl so I was buying music also....just like today. The RIAA are fools.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: Cooler
Originally posted by: Wheezer
From CDFreaks:

But here?s the fly in the ointment. Campus file-traders have learned to simply not share music on the Internet. Instead, they have resorted to sharing on their campus Intranet ? or LAN (Local Area Network.) The most popular clients students use to engage in this type of sharing is DC++ (an open source version of DirectConnect); however using Gnutella in a LAN configuration has also proven useful. Because the RIAA and MPAA have no access to campus networks, it is a virtual impossibility for them to monitor this activity.

Knowing this, college and university students are practically immune from RIAA or MPAA lawsuits as long as they share within the confines of the campus network. Considering many universities contain many thousands or tens of thousands of individuals, finding the files he or she wants is typically not a problem.

The situation is raising concerns within the RIAA and MPAA ranks, as they are impotent to deter this unauthorized file-sharing. In fact, the situation is becoming so rampant both organizations have taken the unusual step of issuing joint press releases on the issue. Additionally, the two trade organizations sent 40 letters to as many universities in 25 states addressing the issue. The letters explained the extent of the problem and what campus administrators can do to resolve the issue.


If they can't get onto private college networks how do they know how much file sharing is going on?

Besides students can easily use the old method of simply handing DVD's and CD's to each other.

All they see is $$$$

qft
 

altonb1

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
From CDFreaks:

But here?s the fly in the ointment. Campus file-traders have learned to simply not share music on the Internet. Instead, they have resorted to sharing on their campus Intranet ? or LAN (Local Area Network.) The most popular clients students use to engage in this type of sharing is DC++ (an open source version of DirectConnect); however using Gnutella in a LAN configuration has also proven useful. Because the RIAA and MPAA have no access to campus networks, it is a virtual impossibility for them to monitor this activity.

Knowing this, college and university students are practically immune from RIAA or MPAA lawsuits as long as they share within the confines of the campus network. Considering many universities contain many thousands or tens of thousands of individuals, finding the files he or she wants is typically not a problem.

The situation is raising concerns within the RIAA and MPAA ranks, as they are impotent to deter this unauthorized file-sharing. In fact, the situation is becoming so rampant both organizations have taken the unusual step of issuing joint press releases on the issue. Additionally, the two trade organizations sent 40 letters to as many universities in 25 states addressing the issue. The letters explained the extent of the problem and what campus administrators can do to resolve the issue.


If they can't get onto private college networks how do they know how much file sharing is going on?

Besides students can easily use the old method of simply handing DVD's and CD's to each other.

Back in the BBS days, software was shared by "elite" members and the software companies could do little about it. Now the RIAA and MPAA are getting the same shaft. They can get mad, but if they would stop overcharging for crap, they wouldn't have this problem.

If a consumer can d/l a song for $.99, but a whole CD wil 10 songs cost $17...who's making obscene profits?
 

Kalmah

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I'm shareing files on my own little LAN that has only 3 computers on it.. uh oh...!!!!!! I'm going to get sued for shareing a song with my brother.

Ok, that example above would be ridiculous to get sued over.. but where do they draw the line on what is considered ok? 3 people shareing... 10 people shareing... 100 people shareing..

If it's ok for 3 people in your own house to share, how does that justify that it's wrong for 90 people to share? That's just 30 groups of three.. I'm sure their are at least 30 houses in the US that has LAN with 3 computers on it.. what makes it different from being individual groups of 3 or have them all together on a larger network?
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: Kalmah
I'm shareing files on my own little LAN that has only 3 computers on it.. uh oh...!!!!!! I'm going to get sued for shareing a song with my brother.

Ok, that example above would be ridiculous to get sued over.. but where do they draw the line on what is considered ok? 3 people shareing... 10 people shareing... 100 people shareing..

If it's ok for 3 people in your own house to share, how does that justify that it's wrong for 90 people to share? That's just 30 groups of three.. I'm sure their are at least 30 houses in the US that has LAN with 3 computers on it.. what makes it different from being individual groups of 3 or have them all together on a larger network?

actually im sure you could be legally sued for that. how stupid can you be? just because you are related to someone, it isnt piracy? i hate the RIAA just like everyone else, but dont be a pirate and think its ok because it fits your circumstance. what a tool :roll:
 

Kalmah

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: Kalmah
I'm shareing files on my own little LAN that has only 3 computers on it.. uh oh...!!!!!! I'm going to get sued for shareing a song with my brother.

Ok, that example above would be ridiculous to get sued over.. but where do they draw the line on what is considered ok? 3 people shareing... 10 people shareing... 100 people shareing..

If it's ok for 3 people in your own house to share, how does that justify that it's wrong for 90 people to share? That's just 30 groups of three.. I'm sure their are at least 30 houses in the US that has LAN with 3 computers on it.. what makes it different from being individual groups of 3 or have them all together on a larger network?

actually im sure you could be legally sued for that. how stupid can you be? just because you are related to someone, it isnt piracy? i hate the RIAA just like everyone else, but dont be a pirate and think its ok because it fits your circumstance. what a tool :roll:


I'm sure you've baught a tv for yourself before.. do you watch it with other people? Or do you insist that others buy their own tv because it is 'pirating'. :disgust:
 

cirthix

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
From CDFreaks:

But here?s the fly in the ointment. Campus file-traders have learned to simply not share music on the Internet. Instead, they have resorted to sharing on their campus Intranet ? or LAN (Local Area Network.) The most popular clients students use to engage in this type of sharing is DC++ (an open source version of DirectConnect); however using Gnutella in a LAN configuration has also proven useful. Because the RIAA and MPAA have no access to campus networks, it is a virtual impossibility for them to monitor this activity.

Knowing this, college and university students are practically immune from RIAA or MPAA lawsuits as long as they share within the confines of the campus network. Considering many universities contain many thousands or tens of thousands of individuals, finding the files he or she wants is typically not a problem.

The situation is raising concerns within the RIAA and MPAA ranks, as they are impotent to deter this unauthorized file-sharing. In fact, the situation is becoming so rampant both organizations have taken the unusual step of issuing joint press releases on the issue. Additionally, the two trade organizations sent 40 letters to as many universities in 25 states addressing the issue. The letters explained the extent of the problem and what campus administrators can do to resolve the issue.


If they can't get onto private college networks how do they know how much file sharing is going on?

Besides students can easily use the old method of simply handing DVD's and CD's to each other.

Since when have they used actual proof and logic?
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
actually im sure you could be legally sued for that. how stupid can you be? just because you are related to someone, it isnt piracy? i hate the RIAA just like everyone else, but dont be a pirate and think its ok because it fits your circumstance. what a tool :roll:
Yeah, I'm sure the RIAA would like to think that if mom, dad, and their 14 and 17 year old children all want to listen to the same song in different rooms of their house (hah, like that would happen! but this is a hypothetical example), that they should all buy their own copy of the CD. However, in the gray area of legal matters, driving 1 mph over the speed limit is a worse offense than keeping one ripped copy of that legally purchased CD on a file server for the whole family to enjoy. Good luck with your anti-fair-use campaign, maybe you should consider a job with the RIAA after all.