Rhode Island sets up emergency program to help seniors get their meds.

[techs]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_...p_emergency_prescription_drug_program/

Rhode Island sets up emergency prescription drug program
Rhode Island planned to launch an emergency program to help some Medicare recipients get their medicine because of problems with the program's new prescription drug benefit, the state said Wednesday.
It became the latest of several states to take such a step as complaints continued to come in from patients and pharmacists more than a week after the program began.

Under the plan, called Medicare Part D, Medicare beneficiaries enrolled in private plans are supposed to have prescription drug coverage subsidized by the government. But across the country, recipients have complained that they were unable to do so, or that they were overcharged for their drugs.

Medicaid, a state health care program for the poor, provided prescription drug coverage until Dec. 31. At that time, patients who also qualified for Medicare, the federal health care program for low-income seniors and those with disabilities, were supposed to begin receiving drug coverage under that program.

You couldn't have written a worse law than the one the Bushies did.

 

[Genx87]

Didnt you post this thread yesterday?

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Didnt you post this thread yesterday?

No, that was another state.
Seems it is going badly across the nation.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87
Didnt you post this thread yesterday?

No, that was another state.
Seems it is going badly across the nation.

Then Ill respond like I did yesterday.

What, your faith in the state is being tested? And you want to expand this to include everything for everyone?

 

[Uhtrinity]

I have a friend who has worked in Pharmacy for the last 7 years and he told me that the whole Medicare part D program has been a nightmare and is causing them alot more workload. 45 minute - 1 hour hold times are common on voice calls if they do get through, and they are always getting server errors / timeouts on computer processed orders. Only time will tell.

edit: This is Idaho

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87
Didnt you post this thread yesterday?

No, that was another state.
Seems it is going badly across the nation.

Then Ill respond like I did yesterday.

What, your faith in the state is being tested? And you want to expand this to include everything for everyone?

Why does Medicare work so well and the drug plan so poorly? Because Medicare was designed with the intent to provide health coverage and the drug plan designed to make money for the insurance companies and the drug industry.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87
Didnt you post this thread yesterday?

No, that was another state.
Seems it is going badly across the nation.

Then Ill respond like I did yesterday.

What, your faith in the state is being tested? And you want to expand this to include everything for everyone?

Why does Medicare work so well and the drug plan so poorly? Because Medicare was designed with the intent to provide health coverage and the drug plan designed to make money for the insurance companies and the drug industry.

You figured it out, now come up with a plan to fix it.

Medicare doesnt work that great, it is bloated and things cost 3x as much as it should.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87
Didnt you post this thread yesterday?

No, that was another state.
Seems it is going badly across the nation.

Then Ill respond like I did yesterday.

What, your faith in the state is being tested? And you want to expand this to include everything for everyone?

Why does Medicare work so well and the drug plan so poorly? Because Medicare was designed with the intent to provide health coverage and the drug plan designed to make money for the insurance companies and the drug industry.

You figured it out, now come up with a plan to fix it.

Medicare doesnt work that great, it is bloated and things cost 3x as much as it should.

Medicare is administered at a cost of less than 2 percent compared to the up to 30 percent of overhead of private plans. In fact US Medicare is the world leader in cost effectiveness.

 

[zendari]

Big government socialist drug programs increasing the demand and resulting in problems/ Who would have thought?

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: zendari
Big government socialist drug programs increasing the demand and resulting in problems/ Who would have thought?

Yes, eliminate medicare altogether. Those who were too busy fighting against Hitler to get rich, won't have a problem dying in the name of absolute capitalism.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: zendari
Big government socialist drug programs increasing the demand and resulting in problems/ Who would have thought?

Yes, eliminate medicare altogether. Those who were too busy fighting against Hitler to get rich, won't have a problem dying in the name of absolute capitalism.

They wouldnt die. They'd simply come to a generous liberal like you. After all since youre going to cure cancer I'm sure you can give them aid.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: zendari
Big government socialist drug programs increasing the demand and resulting in problems/ Who would have thought?

Yes, eliminate medicare altogether. Those who were too busy fighting against Hitler to get rich, won't have a problem dying in the name of absolute capitalism.

They wouldnt die. They'd simply come to a generous liberal like you. After all since youre going to cure cancer I'm sure you can give them aid.

Cause the pharmaceutical companies are run by generous liberals like me. :roll:

But I guess it just sucks for them as far as you're concerned.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Meuge
Yes, eliminate medicare altogether. Those who were too busy fighting against Hitler to get rich, won't have a problem dying in the name of absolute capitalism.

They wouldnt die. They'd simply come to a generous liberal like you. After all since youre going to cure cancer I'm sure you can give them aid.

Cause the pharmaceutical companies are run to generous liberals like me. :roll:

But I guess it just sucks for them.

The great Meuge can't do anything because of the evil profit making pharmaceutical companies? How are you going to cure cancer with that attitude?

 

[Meuge]

Would you help them?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Meuge
Would you help them?

What good would that do? I'm not the brilliant hero of the united states who's going to cure cancer. I thought liberals believed its up to the strong and intelligent to protect the weak.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Meuge
Would you help them?

What good would that do? I'm not the brilliant hero of the united states who's going to cure cancer.

1) you wouldn't help them
2) you believe you're right
-> if you're right, then all of us should follow in your footsteps
->-> then no one will help them
->->-> then they will die

:-> therefore you believe that the people who defeated Hitler deserve a painful untimely death.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Meuge
Would you help them?

What good would that do? I'm not the brilliant hero of the united states who's going to cure cancer.

1) you wouldn't help them
2) you believe you're right
-> if you're right, then all of us should follow in your footsteps
->-> then no one will help them
->->-> then they will die

:-> therefore you believe that the people who defeated Hitler deserve a painful untimely death.

I never said anything of the sort, nor would I presume that someone who would cure cancer in the future would follow in my footsteps. In the event that I answered no, I would assume that great individuals such as those who cure cancer would pick up the slack and go above and beyond the call of duty.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Meuge
Would you help them?

What good would that do? I'm not the brilliant hero of the united states who's going to cure cancer.

1) you wouldn't help them
2) you believe you're right
-> if you're right, then all of us should follow in your footsteps
->-> then no one will help them
->->-> then they will die

:-> therefore you believe that the people who defeated Hitler deserve a painful untimely death.

If they did die, that would also solve the social security problem.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Meuge
Would you help them?

What good would that do? I'm not the brilliant hero of the united states who's going to cure cancer.

1) you wouldn't help them
2) you believe you're right
-> if you're right, then all of us should follow in your footsteps
->-> then no one will help them
->->-> then they will die

:-> therefore you believe that the people who defeated Hitler deserve a painful untimely death.

I never said anything of the sort, nor would I presume that someone who would cure cancer in the future would follow in my footsteps. In the event that I answered no, I would assume that great individuals such as those who cure cancer would pick up the slack and go above and beyond the call of duty.

So what you want to do is take the problems of society and have someone else solve them for you, while you reap the benefits, and do everything in your power not to help

In that case, you're of no value to our society. Please surrender your oxygen. There are more valuable individuals who need it.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87
Didnt you post this thread yesterday?

No, that was another state.
Seems it is going badly across the nation.

Then Ill respond like I did yesterday.

What, your faith in the state is being tested? And you want to expand this to include everything for everyone?

Why does Medicare work so well and the drug plan so poorly? Because Medicare was designed with the intent to provide health coverage and the drug plan designed to make money for the insurance companies and the drug industry.

You figured it out, now come up with a plan to fix it.

Medicare doesnt work that great, it is bloated and things cost 3x as much as it should.

Medicare is administered at a cost of less than 2 percent compared to the up to 30 percent of overhead of private plans. In fact US Medicare is the world leader in cost effectiveness.

The administration costs may be lower but lets take a look at the per head cost overall. I do know the govt managed to pickup 46% of all medical costs in the US in 2003. Private insurance plans picked up about 38% with the rest paying cash or other means.

I am curious what % of the users the govt picked up. I am guessing it is nowhere near the volume seen in the private industry and the costs are much higher.

Technically I am paying medical premiums in the form of my taxes at a rate of about 200 a month. For that I get nothing back. I can go out and get an insurance policy with a 1000 deductible that costs me 88 bucks a month.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: zendari
I never said anything of the sort, nor would I presume that someone who would cure cancer in the future would follow in my footsteps. In the event that I answered no, I would assume that great individuals such as those who cure cancer would pick up the slack and go above and beyond the call of duty.

So what you want to do is take the problems of society and have someone else solve them for you, while you reap the benefits, and do everything in your power not to help

In that case, you're of no value to our society. Please surrender your oxygen. There are more valuable individuals who need it.

Solve them for me? No, this society is hardly mine and I hold little capacity to solve its problems. It's up to great individuals like those who would cure cancer to solve society's problems and carry the brunt of the load.

I had no idea you took it upon yourself to decide who is of value to society and who is not.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Meuge
Would you help them?

What good would that do? I'm not the brilliant hero of the united states who's going to cure cancer.

I thought liberals believed its up to the strong and intelligent to protect the weak.

If Republicans such as yourself consider themsleves to be strong and intelligent then why do you want the weak dead???

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Meuge
Would you help them?

What good would that do? I'm not the brilliant hero of the united states who's going to cure cancer.

I thought liberals believed its up to the strong and intelligent to protect the weak.

If Republicans such as yourself consider themsleves to be strong and intelligent then why do you want the weak dead???

When did I claim to be strong or intelligent or to want the weak dead? The only one who has made proclimations of intellect is our friend Meuge here. I mean, he has already taken it up himself to be a judge of individuals' value to society.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Our society is overly dependant on medication to begin with...instituting a plan that makes medicine more readily available and cheaper will only increase demand, and overburden a system that cannot possibly provide a medical solution for every conceivable scenario.

Granted, there are many people for whom regular medication is a necessity, and I certainly would not want to deprive those people of what they need to survive.

It's a pendulum swing...you either make a system that is accessible to everyone, but becomes cost prohibitive...or you make a system with restrictions in place, that also comes with extensive red tape and bureaucracy.

Preventative medicine in the form of promoting healthy eating habits, regular exercise and other such efforts would do far more to take the burden off our medical infrastructure.

Because Medicare was designed with the intent to provide health coverage and the drug plan designed to make money for the insurance companies and the drug industry.

Do you have any idea how much it costs in R&D for a drug company to release a product...factor in years of research, and in some cases the window after which generic versions of a drug becomes available, and many drug companies find themselves in a troubled position.

Profitability and revenues from one drug fund the development of the next.

Insurance companies are another story altogether, although I have often wondered how we have placed faith in a system like insurance to begin with...pumping money into a safety net with numerous restrictions is not much of a safety net at all.

 

[Thorny]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87
Didnt you post this thread yesterday?

No, that was another state.
Seems it is going badly across the nation.

Then Ill respond like I did yesterday.

What, your faith in the state is being tested? And you want to expand this to include everything for everyone?

Why does Medicare work so well and the drug plan so poorly? Because Medicare was designed with the intent to provide health coverage and the drug plan designed to make money for the insurance companies and the drug industry.

You figured it out, now come up with a plan to fix it.

Medicare doesnt work that great, it is bloated and things cost 3x as much as it should.

Medicare is administered at a cost of less than 2 percent compared to the up to 30 percent of overhead of private plans. In fact US Medicare is the world leader in cost effectiveness.

The administration costs may be lower but lets take a look at the per head cost overall. I do know the govt managed to pickup 46% of all medical costs in the US in 2003. Private insurance plans picked up about 38% with the rest paying cash or other means.

I am curious what % of the users the govt picked up. I am guessing it is nowhere near the volume seen in the private industry and the costs are much higher.

Technically I am paying medical premiums in the form of my taxes at a rate of about 200 a month. For that I get nothing back. I can go out and get an insurance policy with a 1000 deductible that costs me 88 bucks a month.

Did it ever occur to you that the tab the government is picking up consist mostly of old and disabled people. It may come as a shock to you to find that their medical bills are substantially higher than most peoples.