- Oct 14, 2001
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This is related to remotely powering a brain implant from a power unit that you could put in your pocket.
I know you can power devices via RF, but I don't really understand how it works.
So, say you transmit at 2.4GHz and 1 watt. Some device can pick it up an an antenna. How does that get turned into say, 5V supply for the circuit components to use?
Does anyone know anything about RF attenuation in tissue? How can I do some ballpark calculation of the attenuation, so I know power much power the signal must have to get through the skull.
i.e. Say that implant needs 250mW, how much power does the external unit need to beam over to get that when you account for tissue attenuation.
Then, how strong of a signal can the implant produce to send data back through the skull to the base unit (presumably it can only use as much power as gets beamed to it, so 250mW).
Would attenuation be a proportional thing (1w--->0.5 watt, 2w--->1w) or is the attenuation have a barrier so, (1w ----->0.5 w, 0.25w---->0w)?
Does anyone know off of hand how power corresponds to distance in air and/or tissue for RF transmission? I would imagine it depends on power and frequency, I'm only concerned with 2.4GHz.
i.e. 1 watt@2.4 GHz will travel 10 ft before it is attenuated -3db or some such.
Could an antenna in the base power unit, be sensitive enough to pick up the attenuated transmission from the implant?
Would it be easier if the tip of the implant antenna were sticking through the skull? You wouldn't have to worry about tissue attenuation then or not as much?
I know you can power devices via RF, but I don't really understand how it works.
So, say you transmit at 2.4GHz and 1 watt. Some device can pick it up an an antenna. How does that get turned into say, 5V supply for the circuit components to use?
Does anyone know anything about RF attenuation in tissue? How can I do some ballpark calculation of the attenuation, so I know power much power the signal must have to get through the skull.
i.e. Say that implant needs 250mW, how much power does the external unit need to beam over to get that when you account for tissue attenuation.
Then, how strong of a signal can the implant produce to send data back through the skull to the base unit (presumably it can only use as much power as gets beamed to it, so 250mW).
Would attenuation be a proportional thing (1w--->0.5 watt, 2w--->1w) or is the attenuation have a barrier so, (1w ----->0.5 w, 0.25w---->0w)?
Does anyone know off of hand how power corresponds to distance in air and/or tissue for RF transmission? I would imagine it depends on power and frequency, I'm only concerned with 2.4GHz.
i.e. 1 watt@2.4 GHz will travel 10 ft before it is attenuated -3db or some such.
Could an antenna in the base power unit, be sensitive enough to pick up the attenuated transmission from the implant?
Would it be easier if the tip of the implant antenna were sticking through the skull? You wouldn't have to worry about tissue attenuation then or not as much?
