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PricklyPete

PricklyPete

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Awesome link...thanks.

Great to see new development in the Engine world that appears to provide some real benefits. I'd love to see this thing mature as quickly as possible to see what level of real world benefits we would see out of it.
 
SagaLore

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Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: SagaLore
I'm not really impressed with that engine.

All of my work has been towards the wankel dkm engine, now that is impressive.

http://www.sagalore.com/images/

http://www.sagalore.com/wankelrick_dkm/ (IE only)
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How's it better than quasiturbine?
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Look at how much surface area the fuel/air comes in contact inside the "chamber". And I can't imagine grinding friction points is good for the engine either. It would make an interesting air compressor but I don't think it comes close to the 10,000+ RPM that the Wankel DKM can get.
 
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PCMarine

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fascinating stuff, especially on that one page where the guy actually implemented a few of them.
 
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Howard

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: SagaLore
I'm not really impressed with that engine.

All of my work has been towards the wankel dkm engine, now that is impressive.

http://www.sagalore.com/images/

http://www.sagalore.com/wankelrick_dkm/ (IE only)
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How's it better than quasiturbine?
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Look at how much surface area the fuel/air comes in contact inside the "chamber". And I can't imagine grinding friction points is good for the engine either. It would make an interesting air compressor but I don't think it comes close to the 10,000+ RPM that the Wankel DKM can get.
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The surface area/volume ratio of the Wankel (both types) is pretty damn high too.
 
SagaLore

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: SagaLore
I'm not really impressed with that engine.

All of my work has been towards the wankel dkm engine, now that is impressive.

http://www.sagalore.com/images/

http://www.sagalore.com/wankelrick_dkm/ (IE only)
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How's it better than quasiturbine?
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Look at how much surface area the fuel/air comes in contact inside the "chamber". And I can't imagine grinding friction points is good for the engine either. It would make an interesting air compressor but I don't think it comes close to the 10,000+ RPM that the Wankel DKM can get.
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The surface area/volume ratio of the Wankel (both types) is pretty damn high too.
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Yes, but not nearly as high as the quasi. ;)

Also look at how the inner "rotor" changes shape. How much trouble is it to connect a driveshaft to that?
 
Soccerman06

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Quote from the article Xionide linked to:

High energy prices, pollution and global warming. Some people see disaster, Jean Remillard sees opportunity.

He was at the Festivalecolo, the cology festival held yesterday in Laurier Park in the east end, along with people promoting clearner-buring firewood, natural fabrics and urban agriculture (more trees in the city)

His product, howerver, was a good deal more sophisticated.

Its a revolutionary engine thats small, lightweight, powerful, fuel-efficient, clean and inexpesnive. Its the dream machine.

"Its the smallest engine in the world with the highest efficiency." Remillard said.

"It may not save the world, but it will put us on the right road."

Its called the Quasiturbine and was invented 10 years ago by Montreal physicist Gille Saint-Hilaire. Remillard is devoting his life to promoting Saint-Hillaries invention, which he pantented in 1996.

Yesterday, he demostrated a small 75-cubic-centimeter prototype set on a table top.

It looked crude, with two thick steel plates bolted on either side of a steel casing. Two plastic tubes protuded from the casing and were attached at the other end to a compressed air tank. This was the fuel.

The engine emitted a highpitched whirring noise as it furiously turned an axle. It was loud but impressive.

Remillard has hooked up a 75cc Quasitrubine to a go-cart, powered by two compressed air tanks.

He said the tank will last about 20 minutes at 70 kilometers per house. They are completely clean, so you could have an indoor race track for go-carts without having to install ventilation.

The same engine can run on any fule: liquid and gaseous fuel, hydrogen, steam, pneumati, hydraulic.

Using combustion fuels like gasoline, the engine reduces pollutants by 60 percent and obtains 20 percent more efficiency than todays cars and trucks, Remillard said. He said modifications being perfected at Lund University in Sweden will increase efficiency by 60 percent.

The Quasiturbine has about 20 moving parts. It has no valves, crankshaft, or pistons.

Remillard also has a protoype 600cc engine inside a compat car that, he said, can generate up to 800hp and all the torque you could want. Even so powerful an takes up only about 1/5 the space of a standard four-cylinder piston engine. Remillard said two 75cc Quasiturbines would be enough to power an automobile.

So far, his engine has been a hard sell in Canada. He said governemnt and industry are slow to respond to this new concept. Automobile companies are cautious, he said, because it will completely change the economics of their business.

After all, it costs about $500 to build a Quasitrubine.

But Remillard is confident that as gas prices skyrocket and people experience the effects of global warming, the Quasiturbine will be hailed as the "engine of the 21st century.".
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Yes I typed that whole article, so there might be some grammer mistakes in there. But seriously, 800hp engine from a 600cc engine :Q :Q :Q :Q :Q :Q Me want, me call him next time I do an engine swap.
 
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archcommus

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Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Yes I typed that whole article, so there might be some grammer mistakes in there. But seriously, 800hp engine from a 600cc engine :Q :Q :Q :Q :Q :Q Me want, me call him next time I do an engine swap.
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I don't think that thing would even be controllable, so much power in a compact car.

 
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Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Yes I typed that whole article, so there might be some grammer mistakes in there. But seriously, 800hp engine from a 600cc engine :Q :Q :Q :Q :Q :Q Me want, me call him next time I do an engine swap.
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I don't think that thing would even be controllable, so much power in a compact car.
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Yea, you'd have to have major upgrades to your drivetrain and chassis...
 
FlashG

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Quasiturbine = Sealing problems and it will probably require great advancements in ceramic design/production to keep it reliable.
 
Soccerman06

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Originally posted by: LeiZaK
Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Yes I typed that whole article, so there might be some grammer mistakes in there. But seriously, 800hp engine from a 600cc engine :Q :Q :Q :Q :Q :Q Me want, me call him next time I do an engine swap.
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I don't think that thing would even be controllable, so much power in a compact car.
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Yea, you'd have to have major upgrades to your drivetrain and chassis...
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Its easy to control power if you dont have a heavy foot, and seriously no car maker would put out a car with 800hp and not give it other better performing parts. Say you buy a sport car for $30k, the engine will probably cost something like $5k for the whole engine and cooling. From what I saw, there much/any cooling on the engine either. That leaves the manufacture about $5k to spend on better performing parts like suspension and tires (most important to safety) or reinforcing the frame (closed from in most cars). Well they could also make it cheaper.

Some very simple things that can help control a car are ESC and TC. You can also change the gear ratios to better handle extra power (no wheel spin even at high rpm). You can also increase tire width, but eventually they become huge and costly. Obviously this is just a short list of what can be done to handle more power.
 
Iron Woode

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Revolutionary engine?

A one stroke engine is pretty revolutionary, no?
 
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Xionide

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Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Quote from the article Xionide linked to:

High energy prices, pollution and global warming. Some people see disaster, Jean Remillard sees opportunity.

He was at the Festivalecolo, the cology festival held yesterday in Laurier Park in the east end, along with people promoting clearner-buring firewood, natural fabrics and urban agriculture (more trees in the city)

His product, howerver, was a good deal more sophisticated.

Its a revolutionary engine thats small, lightweight, powerful, fuel-efficient, clean and inexpesnive. Its the dream machine.

"Its the smallest engine in the world with the highest efficiency." Remillard said.

"It may not save the world, but it will put us on the right road."

Its called the Quasiturbine and was invented 10 years ago by Montreal physicist Gille Saint-Hilaire. Remillard is devoting his life to promoting Saint-Hillaries invention, which he pantented in 1996.

Yesterday, he demostrated a small 75-cubic-centimeter prototype set on a table top.

It looked crude, with two thick steel plates bolted on either side of a steel casing. Two plastic tubes protuded from the casing and were attached at the other end to a compressed air tank. This was the fuel.

The engine emitted a highpitched whirring noise as it furiously turned an axle. It was loud but impressive.

Remillard has hooked up a 75cc Quasitrubine to a go-cart, powered by two compressed air tanks.

He said the tank will last about 20 minutes at 70 kilometers per house. They are completely clean, so you could have an indoor race track for go-carts without having to install ventilation.

The same engine can run on any fule: liquid and gaseous fuel, hydrogen, steam, pneumati, hydraulic.

Using combustion fuels like gasoline, the engine reduces pollutants by 60 percent and obtains 20 percent more efficiency than todays cars and trucks, Remillard said. He said modifications being perfected at Lund University in Sweden will increase efficiency by 60 percent.

The Quasiturbine has about 20 moving parts. It has no valves, crankshaft, or pistons.

Remillard also has a protoype 600cc engine inside a compat car that, he said, can generate up to 800hp and all the torque you could want. Even so powerful an takes up only about 1/5 the space of a standard four-cylinder piston engine. Remillard said two 75cc Quasiturbines would be enough to power an automobile.

So far, his engine has been a hard sell in Canada. He said governemnt and industry are slow to respond to this new concept. Automobile companies are cautious, he said, because it will completely change the economics of their business.

After all, it costs about $500 to build a Quasitrubine.

But Remillard is confident that as gas prices skyrocket and people experience the effects of global warming, the Quasiturbine will be hailed as the "engine of the 21st century.".
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Yes I typed that whole article, so there might be some grammer mistakes in there. But seriously, 800hp engine from a 600cc engine :Q :Q :Q :Q :Q :Q Me want, me call him next time I do an engine swap.
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*high five*
 
Iron Woode

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Revolutionary engine?

A one stroke engine is pretty revolutionary, no?
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Mm yeah I'd say so. Just looking for confirmation. :D
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Look up Bourke engine.
 
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