REVIEWED: Canon EOS-300D / Digital Rebel

[GTaudiophile]

Just something else for digicam lovers to lust after:

Click HERE to read the DPreview.com review.

 

[ArcticChill]

trying to advertise

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: ArcticChill
trying to advertise

eh?

 

[kimagurealex]

Originally posted by: ArcticChill
trying to advertise

of what?

 

[Mday]

WOOO review... although i may just as well get the 10D

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arcticchill, ?? ??????

 

[GTaudiophile]

With all the Which digicam should I buy? threads, you'd think that some of my REVIEWED threads would engender more conversation. But they never do.

I just dunno if the $600 premium for the 10D is worth it. Yeah, construction is better, but the 300D is lighter and smaller. I bet someone comes out with a softmod for the 300D giving it the features of a 10D!

 

[crabbyman]

I will reply to your thread. I am really interested as how this compares to the 10D. I am wondering if there are differences to grant the $600 difference. To me...that puts me that much closer to getting my first digital SLR. I will be buying one in a heartbeat if Dell or Apple *places I have accounts through* carry these. Anyone want to list the differences for me?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: crabbyman
I will reply to your thread. I am really interested as how this compares to the 10D. I am wondering if there are differences to grant the $600 difference. To me...that puts me that much closer to getting my first digital SLR. I will be buying one in a heartbeat if Dell or Apple *places I have accounts through* carry these. Anyone want to list the differences for me?

Read the review linked above. It very clearly points out the differences right on the first page.

I am VERY interested in this camera. Especially since I own a Canon Elan 7 EOS camera and two pro lenses that would work perfectly on either this body or the 10D. This would really be a nice addition to my photography equipment...Drool...:

 

[sotong]

The review has already pointed out the differences so I won't bother but one issue that may not be of importance to many people but of concern to me is the country of manufacture. The EOS 10D is made in japan while the eos 300d will likely be made in taiwan. I would still very much prefer a made in japan model

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: sotong
The review has already pointed out the differences so I won't bother but one issue that may not be of importance to many people but of concern to me is the country of manufacture. The EOS 10D is made in japan while the eos 300d will likely be made in taiwan. I would still very much prefer a made in japan model

What, the Taiwanese can make motherboards but not digital cameras? As long as the optics are shipped in, I don't have a problem with it.

 

[sotong]

Taiwan is good for computer peripherals, but optics is probably not their strength. I've had good experience with "made in japan" products as compared to say "made in china". I've worked in a japanese firm before and i know their quality control is far more stringent in japan than their overseas plants

 

[crabbyman]

Yes..I am sorry about posting before reading the whole thread! I also found that a couple of other places had a hands-on review with a pre-production model and it sounds as if it is a resonable camera for the money. The lens you get with the package deal is a special one time deal for that camera only and it is made so that it is the equivalent of the 28-90 mm film lens *roughly*.

I have a friend who has researched the whole Taiwan vs. Japan deal and swears by the Japan optics and models. I personally feel that some of the Taiwan stuff feels a little cheaper made, it could just be me though.

I don't know if I should consider purchasing this or not...I really want it as I am doing wedding photography here in town and feel that the more pictures you take the better you get and more good shots you get also. I am hesitant to take too many with my 35mm Canon just for the fact I have to wait 2 days for good development and have to pay for it.

 

[jimmygates]

I'm from Taiwan and I try to avoid items from Taiwan



-Jimbo

 

[WebDude]

I've been looking at the 10D for months, but it's just too expensive for me. The 300D is getting to the point where I can afford it. Especially when you can get it with a good lens for $1000.

One difference I find worth noting is the ability of the 300D to accept the new Canon EF-S lenses, something the 10D can't. Don't know where things are headed in the Canon digital EOS world, but this seems like it would be a feature worth having.

In addition to this the EOS 300D is the first Canon digital SLR to support a new lens called the EF-S (S = short back focus), this has the same mount and electrical contacts as an EF lens but has a rear element which fits further into the camera allowing it to be closer to the image sensor. The lens elements can also be reduced in size as the imaging circle does not need to be as large, thus EF-S lenses should be smaller and lighter than their 35 mm equivalents. Note that EF-S lenses can only be used on the EOS 300D (so far) as no other EOS camera supports the EF-S mount.

 

[akiraxtc]

That camera looked really good and finally a DSLR with $1000 range with lens! I'll probably get one once those start trickling into the market.
Although that is an excellent review, it's for a pre-production camera nevertheless. I would really take it with a grain of salt. Although it should be very close to production model, things might change. I want to know what Dpreview will say when the review the final model.
Some people mentioned something about the lack or mirror lock and the forced AI AF that might turn them away from the camera but i got to try it myself to see how it really is
Too bad they only bundled the ES-S 18-55mm camera with the lens.. i would probably get the EF 28-135mm IS USM lens to complement the EF-S lens since it looked like the EF-S is a lower end lens.
I am switching from Nikon 5700 which really has horribly slow Auto focus. It is to the point where it's unusable for practical purposes. Slow autofocus is fine, i'll use manual focus but the thing does not have manual focus ring!!!
Oh well, hope the digital rebel is as good as it says.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: WebDude
I've been looking at the 10D for months, but it's just too expensive for me. The 300D is getting to the point where I can afford it. Especially when you can get it with a good lens for $1000.

One difference I find worth noting is the ability of the 300D to accept the new Canon EF-S lenses, something the 10D can't. Don't know where things are headed in the Canon digital EOS world, but this seems like it would be a feature worth having.

In addition to this the EOS 300D is the first Canon digital SLR to support a new lens called the EF-S (S = short back focus), this has the same mount and electrical contacts as an EF lens but has a rear element which fits further into the camera allowing it to be closer to the image sensor. The lens elements can also be reduced in size as the imaging circle does not need to be as large, thus EF-S lenses should be smaller and lighter than their 35 mm equivalents. Note that EF-S lenses can only be used on the EOS 300D (so far) as no other EOS camera supports the EF-S mount.

Regarding the $100 lens package, I would say that you would be much better off putting that money towards some decent prime lenses or the Canon EF 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS lens.

 

[crabbyman]

So when do you think their official release day is? I have seen stores say they were supposed to get them today while I saw another say October 15. I want/semi-need one! Is they any reason I should not get this?

 

[crabbyman]

Any more help/ideas?

...bump...

 

[akiraxtc]

Just bought one at a Local Best buy!
Crabbyman, if you really want one, go and visit one of your best buy and look for one. Some might not have it one display but ask for the salesperson to open one just so you can get a feel of the camera.
I played with the camera for a couple of hours and have shot about a hundred or so pictures with it. The camera is definitely a bit heavy, or at least heavier than other digicams i previously used (Olympus C-2100UZ, Nikon 5700) but my first impression is "WOW, this sh*t is FAST!". That pretty much sums it the AF system is really fast and unlike cameras that uses EVF, the optical viewfinder helps me a lot during Manual focus. Manual focus ring is pretty precise in general. The 7-point AF system takes a bit of time to get used to but i'm beginning to get a hang of it. WB, ISO settings are lay out in a way that is easily accessible. The LCD in the back is only used to review pictures, not preview as in other digicams.
This camera is definitely very usable out of the box as a point-and-shoot and produces very good pictures even under optimal conditions. I think it should be much better when it's daylight but it's midnight now and i need some sleep

 

[GTaudiophile]

I am a Canon G2 owner, and anyone who is familiar with the G-series of cameras knows that anything above ISO200 is pretty unusable because of noise.

With that said, take a look at these night shots taken with a 300D!

I sure would love to get one, but I need a job first. By the time that happens, I'll probably be able to get the successor to the 300D.

 

[crabbyman]

Ohhhh!...Now that I know its out...I'm all butterflies! I don't know whether to get the 10D or the 300...I was sooo close to getting the 10D ..but now that I know this is within a 45 minute drive....OOOHHH!


I am used to the 7 point system since I already own the Rebel Ti...which it looks passed a lot of its qualities to the 300D.


Anyone have pics to post from it? I never trust the Manufacturers pics... Which to get... 10D or 300D?!?!?

 

[GTaudiophile]

I suggest browsing through this forum. Go back a day or two if necessary. Somewhere is a post from a guy who had hands-on experience with both the 10D and 300D.

 

[crabbyman]

Thank you much! Looking at it now! ...and supposedly the "local" Best Buy has had it a full week and been sold out since Friday...getting more tonight supposedly for tomorrow.

 

[GTaudiophile]

My Canon G2 can't do this!

 

[crabbyman]

Oh SLR how you do taunt me!