Review guidelines or demands shining through?

[jvroig]

Without facts, this thread is pointless and seems to be just another unnecessary area to breed flamewars and conspiracy theories. I already have half a mind to lock it.

However, since I have not had the time (nor the willingness) to actually look into the supposed statistics, I will give the OP a fair shake.

OP: Look at post #12, by DominionSeraph. He goes to a few reviews, and counts the number of times the competing company is mentioned. Do the same, and provide the facts and statistics for your assertion that NVIDIA/GeForce is "abundantly" mentioned in AMD reviews, while AMD is never or only barely mentioned in NVIDIA/GeForce reviews. Link the articles, show us the reference counts.

If I do not see that, I am locking this thread. No cop-outs. No excuses. Show the statistics as evidence of your claim and enlighten us all, or this thread is done.

Moderator jvroig

 

[VulgarDisplay]

I don't believe nVIDIA OR amd has viral marketing,subliminal marketing or any such thing on this forum.

But for people who insist that it exists provide your evidence or go post on paranoia,circle jerking forums or something.

Nvidia is actually honest about the fact that they have people pushing their agenda on the forums. AMD isn't advertising it but they probably do, or at least several posters are accused of working for AMD.

Either way, there are posters here who are basically viral marketing on these forums.

 

[NIGELG]

Nvidia is actually honest about the fact that they have people pushing their agenda on the forums. AMD isn't advertising it but they probably do, or at least several posters are accused of working for AMD.

Either way, there are posters here who are basically viral marketing on these forums.

Proof please.

 

[Ferzerp]

Proof please.

Here is an example of the kind of posting that makes people think that:


http://forums.anandtech.com/search.php?searchid=631711

All of the posts in threads others have started are always like this:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=34088039&postcount=4

edit: A short while after BD was released, there was a spammer across many forums (you name it, he was there) incessantly promoting a blog that showed how good *cough* that architecture is. It was a lot of GPU limited benchmarks (mostly ripped from other sites for comparison (i.e. he would take graphs from Tom's Hardware for example, and the edit in the scores that he was saying his processor got). The bad thing is that many of the benchmarks would have a higher clocked GPU for the BD, etc (ignoring that taking graphs from a website, and then building your own system and comparing it isn't even a decently controlled test anyway). If you're curious, just look here: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=3&cp=66&gs_id=2&xhr=t&q=%22Hi%2C+first+off+I+would+like+to+introduce+myself.+My+name+is+Panos%22&pf=p&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=%22Hi,+first+off+I+would+like+to+introduce+myself.+My+name+is+Panos%22

 

[NIGELG]

Here is an example of the kind of posting that makes people think that:


http://forums.anandtech.com/search.php?searchid=631711

All of the posts in threads others have started are always like this:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=34088039&postcount=4

Could be just a fanboy or someone who thinks that way.Without documentation or confession there's no proof.

 

[tviceman]

Good stuff.

 

[Ferzerp]

Could be just a fanboy or someone who thinks that way.Without documentation or confession there's no proof.

The news release posts always have a specific formula. Seems a bit much for a delusional fanboy to me.


Always present (not always the same order):

1. link
2. cherry-picked quote
3. comment to disparage intel or talk up amd (often claims of excitement, etc)

You are correct, we cannot divine motivation. I am merely sharing with you what types of behavior get people suspicious.

Also, looks like you hit reply before I linked the other thing.

 

[NIGELG]

The news release posts always have a specific formula. Seems a bit much for a delusional fanboy to me.


Always present (not always the same order):

1. link
2. cherry-picked quote
3. comment to disparage intel or talk up amd (often claims of excitement, etc)

You are correct, we cannot divine motivation. I am merely sharing with you what types of behavior get people suspicious.

Also, looks like you hit reply before I linked the other thing.

Interesting.

 

[Siberian]

Proof please.

If you google AMD viral marketing there is a lot of info out there. People getting free stuff to pimp the corporate logo.

Must be nice I enter tech contests all the time and win nothing. I have to sell my old stuff to get new stuff.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Proof please.

Read through this thread. There is a poster who's signature says Member of Nvidia Focus Group.

He's honest about it. I'd gladly post positive things about a company in return for free hardware. Wonder how I get into that business lol.

 

[NIGELG]

He's honest about it. .

They were forced to be 'honest' about it after they were exposed.

I've yet to see any proof of AMD viral stealth that's convincing.


As for free hardware thank goodness I can buy my own.I would never sell my soul for a piece of silicon just to be muzzled and tow the company line.

 

[f1sherman]

Lets s tick to the topic you guys


This is a thread about dis-proportionality between Nvidia and AMD trademark mentions in AT reviews, not about AMD's (Edelman's) pathetic attempts at advertising through social networks.

 

[Revolution 11]

I'd be willing to believe AMD had some of its own viral marketing but looking at how inept AMD has been recently, I doubt it.

 

[Siberian]

They were forced to be 'honest' about it after they were exposed.

I've yet to see any proof of AMD viral stealth that's convincing.


As for free hardware thank goodness I can buy my own.I would never sell my soul for a piece of silicon just to be muzzled and tow the company line.

Well since NVIDIA manned up and outted their program, maybe AMD will have the stones to do the same.

I think the reviews here a really good and that this thread is a non topic.

 

[NIGELG]

Well since NVIDIA manned up and outted their program, maybe AMD will have the stones to do the same.

I think the reviews here a really good and that this thread is a non topic.

Nvidia 'Manned up' only after they were caught.

I don't think they can throw their money and get preferential treatment on this site.....at least I don't see any evidence.

People need to make up their mind,one day it's infested with AMD viral shills the next day it's bribery and subliminal ads by Nvidia.

I think the site and forum are neutral...that means the fanboys cancel each other out.

 

[KingFatty]

I think it's great to have combined AMD and NVidia fans, I think people on both sides make very good points. As an owner of both AMD and NVidia cards in the past and present, I'm very likely to purchase either type of card in the future and appreciate staying up to date on either. It's just more convenient to get the pros/cons to every subject in the same thread. If AMD has a feature, the NVidia fans can point out the downsides of it more objectively than an AMD fanboi. Same for NVidia features.

 

[Ben90]

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That kind of post belongs in OT, not in the tech forums.

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[Ben90]

Damn, that was fast. You guys are on your A game today.

 

[jvroig]

This thread is clearly going nowhere. To reduce the number of unnecessarily contentious tangents that arrive here, I'm closing the thread.

I'm still ready to hear from the OP. OP, if you are ready to do as I asked you in post#26, send me a PM about it and I will re-open your thread.

Moderator jvroig