Reuters crops knives and blood out of pictures, no media bias here!

[PJABBER]

Of course it doesn't, because there weren't any on the ship. Granted, that doesn't stop you from clinging to your delusions to the contrary.

Time for you to take the blue pill, Kyle.

Interview with Mehmut Tuval, Captain, Mavi Marmara

Clearest video of activities on the Mavi Marmara before and during the assault. Though the assault itself is not shown you can skip to around the 30 minute mark to view the "non-violent" peace activists all arming up with iron pipes and some kind of homemade grenades. The video continues to show them throw these homemade grenades against the boarding boats and you can see the Israelis responding with PAINTBALLS.

The shots of the medical area on the boat show that most of the passengers are military age males equipped with gas masks and every one of them other than the photographers are carrying iron pipes with which to attack the Israelis.

This is no peace group. It is a violent and pumped up group intent on attacking Israeli boarders.

Mavi Marmara // Raw Footage

 

[dahunan]

When are you shits going to stop spelling Border as Boarder

you bitch and complain about Illegals but you can't even spell BORDER..

 

[palehorse]

When are you shits going to stop spelling Border as Boarder

you bitch and complain about Illegals but you can't even spell BORDER..

Hey genius, STFU and learn to read.

boarder (bôr′dər) noun

1. a person who regularly gets meals, or room and meals, at another's home for pay
2. a person who boards a ship, aircraft, etc., esp. one of the crew detailed to board a hostile ship

board·er (bôrˈdər, bōrˈ-) noun

1. One who pays a stipulated sum in return for regular meals or for meals and lodging.
2. One who goes on board a vessel as part of an assault or military action: repel all boarders.

Is our pet troll lost again?

 

[kylebisme]

The Peace Activist's Heroic Fight

Ah, now there is some Zionist propaganda I expect IHV to take some issue with. Not the flagrant bigotry against Arabs of course, but the "Turkish clubs" quip at the end, at least as long as he understands what it is referencing:

Traditionally, the masseurs in the baths, tellak in Turkish, who were young men, helped wash clients by soaping and scrubbing their bodies. They also worked as sex workers. [1]
...

[1] (Toledano 2003, p. 242) "[Flaubert, January 1850:] Be informed, furthermore, that all of the bath-boys are bardashes [male homosexuals]."

Surely IHV can admit that mocking O'Keefe by inferring that he is interested in gay sex is petty display of bigotry?

Time for you to take the blue pill, Kyle.

Feel free to keep taking the blue pill to stay in wonderland yourself, I prefer the red pill as I like to see how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

For others who might have intrest in taking the red pill; you can find an excellent parody of Zionist delusions here.

 

[PJABBER]

When are you shits going to stop spelling Border as Boarder

you bitch and complain about Illegals but you can't even spell BORDER..

Buddy, it is time for you to put down that hash pipe and drift back into reality...

boarder [ˈbɔːdə] (Transport / Nautical Terms) a person who boards a ship, especially one who forces his way aboard in an attack

 

[PJABBER]

Feel free to keep taking the blue pill to stay in wonderland yourself, I prefer the red pill as I like to see how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

Kyle, I keep watching all of these videos, why can't you?

Afraid to lose your faith in Hamas and the "Palestinian" cause?

I can't find a single one that shows the passengers of the Mavi Marmara to be anything but violence prone bully boys.

Seriously, man, the videos are not Israeli product, they are coming from the people on the ship. They show them pumping themselves up to attack, they show them, ALL of them, arming themselves with iron pipes and home made grenades, they show them waiting and wailing for martyrdom.

Opposing this crowd are Israeli soldiers that came with PAINTBALLS to minimize injury.

While I absolutely do believe that the Israelis should never have boarded a ship like this, one loaded with violent extremists, carrying anything less than full armor, crowd dispersion and suppression devices and considerably more firepower than handguns and PAINTBALLS, I do believe they boarded with an intent to keep damage and particularly injuries to an absolute minimum. They did this and suffered multiple life threatening injuries when they were forced to repel the assault.

I see NO indication that the crowd aboard the Mavi Marmara was in any way looking for a peaceful outcome.

 

[kylebisme]

Kyle, I keep watching all of these videos, why can't you?

I have watched the videos, I just don't share your delusions. Hence, I know better than to believe that people seeking martyrdom would bother to put on life vests, or that Israel would've released the passengers if they actually were terrorists.

 

[Noobtastic]

I have watched the videos, I just don't share your delusions. Hence, I know better than to believe that people seeking martyrdom would bother to put on life vests, or that Israel would've released the passengers if they actually were terrorists.

Please specify what you disagree with the videos.

There are videos on all sides - testimony from the COMMANDER, confirmed links to jihadist terrorist groups, galleries of bullet proof vests and ammunition, matry tapes recorded by activists prior to the departure..etc...etc..

the burden of proof rests against the ship. notice this is the only ship that wasn't boarded peacefully and without homicidal rage.

 

[PJABBER]

I have watched the videos, I just don't share your delusions. Hence, I know better than to believe that people seeking martyrdom would bother to put on life vests, or that Israel would've released the passengers if they actually were terrorists.

ROTFLMAO! You actually haven't watched all the videos then. Like the one where their imam urges them to glorious martyrdom and expects great things, like death in the name of the cause, from them, and they all kind of jump up and down, do some fist bumps and chant Allahu Akbar! One guy goes on camera and says that he is mighty disappointed that he has gone on a couple of other blockade runs and has not yet achieved martyrdom, but this time he has high hopes. Da shizzle! Keeping it real! I like all the scenes where they pray several times a day for the chance to be martyrs. Haven't seen those?

I guess in your book, when they say they want to be martyrs right to the camera, when they pray to be martyrs five times a day, when their leaders urge them to martyrdom, when their spouses wish them a glorious death, and they then put on a floppy life jacket all that other stuff is just funnin'.

As you must base your opinions on your own personal experience in martyrdom actions, I must defer to your brilliant insight.

But I still think wearing a life jacket has nothing to do with hoping to die killing infidel Jews, though a Catholic or Mormon or Quaker would do almost as well. You just won't get the full complement of virgins when you check in after checking out. If ya know whut I mean! Wink, wink, nudge, nudge!

As to the the release of all the wonderful Hamas supporters on the ship, blooded or not, you can thank Nobel Peace Prize Winnah Obama for that.

On June 2 Obama asked Israeli PM Binyamin Netanyahu to release all the remaining passengers without further delay as well as the six ships that Israel could have kept.

Bibi needs some more of those JDAM kits, real soon now, so maybe it was worth sending that bunch back. Saves on prison expenses as well! :awe:

 

[kylebisme]

You actually haven't watched all the videos then.

I actually have, I just don't care to debate the topic with you.

 

[PJABBER]

I actually have, I just don't care to debate the topic with you.

I don't actually consider what you and flavio do here as debate. It is just mindless, boring, tedious repetition of Hamas talking points, post after post, confirming you and flavio as Hamas sock puppets. No more, no less. :awe:

 

[kylebisme]

You are just too much of a deranged moron to comprehend the fact that one doesn't have to take either side in this conflict, and to the contrary of your ridiculous slandering of me as a Hamas supporter; I have no love for any such terrorists, and rather am in the middle the middle with many Christians, Jews, Muslims and others who want to resolve this conflict with respect to everyone's rights under internal law.

 

[PJABBER]

You are just too much of a deranged moron to compherend the fact that one doesn't have to take either side in this conlifct, and to the contreary of your redculous slandering of me as a " Hamas sock puppet"; I'm in the middle the middle with many Christians, Jews, Muslims and others who want to resolve this conflict with respect to everyone's rights under internal law.

Kyle, Kyle, Kyle. Don't you think that when you get so many people advising you that your "beliefs" are nothing but a house of cards that you should examine that oh so shaky foundation?

Your faith in outlandish conspiracies and the good intent of terrorists and of self-serving corrupt mass murderers that pose as champions has led you WAAAAAAAY off the reservation.

I am sure you can find fellow travelers, that there is both a flavio and a kylebisme posting in concert here is proof of that.

Yet, no matter how many posts you make together, if you fail to even consider or acknowledge that there are other facts to be gleaned, facts you can learn from, you live as in a shallow bowl, scrambling, ever scrambling, to get up walls too slick to gain real purchase.

And there is no one else willing to join you and flavio in that shiny mirrored bowl. It is just your own reflection that makes you think there are more of you than there really are.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

That is a hilarious video, more so when you consider that Captain Stabbin is one of the longest running sex web sites around.

I understand that the video has had THREE MILLION VIEWS and has absolutely no pron. That is f'n amazing. The number of views. Not the fact that it has no pron.

The lyrics evoke such pleasant languor, the sentiments so appropos for taking a sail on the Good Ship Lollipop...

Freaking hilarious! :thumbsup:

 

[kylebisme]

Don't you think that when you get so many people advising...

Rather, I know for a fact that while delusional morons such as yourself are a large majority on the forum; I've got the vast majority of the world on my side in wanting to bring a peaceful resolution to the Israel/Palestine conflict on the basis of internal law, and a majority which isn't suckered by the crackpot "19 Arabs with boxcutters" conspiracy theory which you fools cling to.

 

[PJABBER]

Rather, I know for a fact that while delusional morons such as yourself are a large majority on the forum; I've got the vast majority of the world on my side in wanting to bring a peaceful resolution to the Israel/Palestine conflict on the basis of internal law, and a majority which isn't suckered by the crackpot "19 Arabs with boxcutters" conspiracy theory which you fools cling to.

LOL at your "belief" in world support for Palestinians. If they wanted to support the P's they would invite them to live with them instead of keeping the P's in camps that have become home for 60 years. Time for some Hope and Change, but it is not going to be another genocide of the Jews as much as you and your bros in the Hamas may wish for such a thing.

And that delusion you have about the guv'mt and Israelis planting explosives to bring down the World Trade Centers just at the point the Islamist fanatics drove their planes into them, well, that is just precious.

 

[kylebisme]

LOL at your "belief" in world support for Palestinians.

Rather, I know for a fact that the vast majority of the world shares my support for both Israelis and Palestinians who want Peaceful settlement of the question of Palestine, as evidenced by the voting record for the proposal dating back decades, most recently Yes: 164, No: 7, Abstentions: 4, Non-Voting: 17.

Time for some Hope and Change, but it is not going to be another genocide of the Jews as much as you and your bros in the Hamas may wish for such a thing.

I want no genocide of anyone, and have no kinship with any terrorists, Hamas or otherwise. Tell me, would you sling such slander against Israel Jews like these who share my position on the matter?

And that delusion you have about the guv'mt and Israelis planting explosives to bring down the World Trade Centers just at the point the Islamist fanatics drove their planes into them, well, that is just precious.

You are deluding yourself into believing I suspect governments to be behind the attacks, and to the contrary I figure our government was suckered by some faction of corporate barons, as I've stated many times on this forum previously. Also, I highly doubt the Arabs who were apparently involved had any real interest in Islam, as I've provided evidence for previously as well. As for the location of explosives, they were most obviously placed throughout the building, and set off in sequence starting with where the jets had previously impacted so that fools like you would believe the damage from the jets was all it took.

 

[PJABBER]

You are deluding yourself into believing I suspect governments to be behind the attacks, and to the contrary I figure our government suckered by some faction of corporate barons, as I've stated many times on this forum previously. Also, I highly doubt the Arabs who were apparently involved had any real interest in Islam, and the explosives were most obviously placed throughout the building, and set off in sequence starting with where the jets had previously impacted so that fools like you would believe the damage from the jets was all it took.

:awe: ROTFLMAO! :awe: Stop with that, you are killing me! I can't take it any more! :awe: Comedy Central, call them! Now! :awe:

 

[kylebisme]

Your willful ignorance of reality is evidenced by your inability to acknowledge the facts I presented to debunk your non-9/11 related arguments.

 

[bfdd]

Your willful ignorance of reality is evidenced by your inability to acknowledge the facts I presented to debunk your non-9/11 related arguments.

I'm pretty sure you're just talking to yourself now. You went full crazy online awesome. You know who I've heard spout the same shit you do? Crazy bums in Venice.

 

[kylebisme]

Here is a collection of structural engineers saying the same thing I do, among over 1200 architects engineers calling for a proper scientific investigation. Also, plenty of other notable people here. Granted, I didn't need any of them to tell me the "19 Arabs with boxuctters" conspiracy theory is sheer crackpottry, as I paid attention in school, while you were apparently hanging out with homeless people instead.

 

[PJABBER]

Your willful ignorance of reality is evidenced by your inability to acknowledge the facts I presented to debunk your non-9/11 related arguments.

Let me guess. You are still in school or make a living at some non-descript and non-challenging job. You have never held management responsibility of any kind at a large corporation or in government. Never served in the military.

I have worked for or with literally hundreds of small, medium and large companies here in the States and overseas as both a very senior manager/director and as a consultant to C-level officers. I have served plenty of years as both an active service and Reserve Army officer.

Let me assure you that whatever your picture of these institutions might be from watching movies or reading pulp novels, most organizations couldn't conspire their way out of a paper bag. Most management is so intent on internal and external turf fights that they couldn't fathom putting together a massive consipracy of the type you believe in.

Why should they? What would they gain? 99.99999 percent of the time it is about the money. Who made money? Did these conspirators aim to collect an insurance pay off? LOL!

Have you any idea how absolutely difficult it is to coordinate a covert emplacement of explosives in a building under construction or renovation? Do you know how many hundreds if not thousands of people would have a chance over time at discovery as these buildings are inspected throughout construction and constantly thereafter by engineers that would recognize demolitions? Do you know how bulky explosives are, the wiring and initiation systems that would be required? How these explosives and initiators lose whatever reliability they might have over time? The unlikelihood of achieving a coordinated timing for setting off initiators? The degree of luck that would have multiple airliners hijacked simultaneously and strike the right buildings just to set off a covert explosive chain?

Get a real job and stop wasting time posting here. Get a girlfriend or a wife. That will reorient your priorities faster than anything. And see if you can find your cousin flavio one at the same time as he also seems to share your delusions.

You will find there is a whole, real world out there to explore that is going to be a lot more satisfying than trying to convince people of your asinine conspiracy conjectures and that Hamas et al are just a bunch of flower sporting pansies if only Israel and the Jews were killed off.

 

[kylebisme]

Let me guess.

That seems like all you ever do, and you aren't good at it at all.

 

[palehorse]

You are deluding yourself into believing I suspect governments to be behind the attacks, and to the contrary I figure our government was suckered by some faction of corporate barons, as I've stated many times on this forum previously. Also, I highly doubt the Arabs who were apparently involved had any real interest in Islam, as I've provided evidence for previously as well. As for the location of explosives, they were most obviously placed throughout the building, and set off in sequence starting with where the jets had previously impacted so that fools like you would believe the damage from the jets was all it took.