Returning to Fallout: New Vegas

[Geosurface]

I preferred Fallout 3 to New Vegas, as evidenced by my finishing all of the DLC expansion for Fallout 3. I lazily completed one ending of New Vegas and never touched any DLC... I ended up getting them all earlier this year in a Steam sale though.

Now, I'm messing around with them. I ended up in Old World Blues, but since I didn't have my old saved game anymore, I'm sort of low level for it. It's going alright in fights but, I have become red level irradiated and I can't find any radaway. I bought the one and only one for sale from the AI butler.

Anyone with knowledge of Old World Blues have any advice?

 

[raasco]

Get your levels before you even try it. You can bypass so many useless steps by having high speech when you talk to the scientists.

 

[Rakewell]

Yeah, I'd mod that game and start from the beginning, level up, and head to the DLC then. IMHO the second run through with mods was a blast. Lemme know if you need any recommendations.

 

[AlexAL]

Yeah, I'd mod that game and start from the beginning, level up, and head to the DLC then. IMHO the second run through with mods was a blast. Lemme know if you need any recommendations.

I haven't done any of the Fallouts (3 or Vegas) but would definitely appreciate a recommendation for mods.

 

[shortylickens]

Yeah, I'd mod that game and start from the beginning, level up, and head to the DLC then. IMHO the second run through with mods was a blast. Lemme know if you need any recommendations.

I agree with this.


First off, you should have frequent quick and auto-saves. Second, always hard save when doing something new (before you start, not after).

OWB is tough, and even though some things scale with your level, its a shitload easier when you are close to 20, as opposed to 5 or so.

Also:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Fallout:_New_Vegas

If you spend enough time reading, you get actual strategies in there.

best tip I can give applies to all games but mostly the New Vegas add-ons: Put many points into melee from the very start. Dead Money in particular is short on ammo and melee ability actually works better on the enemies there. Also, saving ammo throughout the game means saving money, and early on that means easier to buy the shit you really need.
Later on it just means you can have larger stockpiles of the good ammo for your mega weapons, like 25 and 40mm grenades.
Assuming you do specialize in melee, learn to sneak and jump, also run and pop out from corners. On harder difficulties New Vegas is a game where you die if you simply stand out in the field and blast.
It aint Mechwarrior for god sake.

 

[blastingcap]

I agree on bulking up on melee, but grenades suck and are not good weapons. Playing on hardest difficulty, I remembering pouring dozens of grenades via the machine-gun-like grenade launcher (forgot the name of it) before finally killing an ordinary deathclaw, let alone an Alpha or something else. Yeah, Thump Thump and other grenade launchers can help cripple deathclaws but they can't really kill them quickly. They simply don't penetrate armor enough. You need armor-penetration for the tough bosses, or at least high base damage. My preferred weapon is the Thermic Lance for this reason.. it's like a chainsaw but better. For range, something like the long-range sniper-style rifles are okay (although ironically the modifiers suggest that you'd do more damage with anti-personnel ammo than you would with armor piercing ammo, if your base damage is high enough). With sneak attack critical on a headshot, high enough small guns skill, and Anti-Material rifle (preferably the GRA version), you can one-shot or two-shot most normal deathclaws even on hardest difficulty, depending how lucky you are with crits. The high-damage energy weapons like the LAER also do okay.

I agree with this.


First off, you should have frequent quick and auto-saves. Second, always hard save when doing something new (before you start, not after).

OWB is tough, and even though some things scale with your level, its a shitload easier when you are close to 20, as opposed to 5 or so.

Also:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Fallout:_New_Vegas

If you spend enough time reading, you get actual strategies in there.

best tip I can give applies to all games but mostly the New Vegas add-ons: Put many points into melee from the very start. Dead Money in particular is short on ammo and melee ability actually works better on the enemies there. Also, saving ammo throughout the game means saving money, and early on that means easier to buy the shit you really need.
Later on it just means you can have larger stockpiles of the good ammo for your mega weapons, like 25 and 40mm grenades.
Assuming you do specialize in melee, learn to sneak and jump, also run and pop out from corners. On harder difficulties New Vegas is a game where you die if you simply stand out in the field and blast.
It aint Mechwarrior for god sake.

 

[shortylickens]

I never had that problem with grenade machine guns. But by the time I got them I always had 100 in Explosives and all the explosive feats. I probably did triple damage with a much larger blast radius too.
I could stomp deathclaws very quickly, especially in narrow canyons.

 

[blastingcap]

I never had that problem with grenade machine guns. But by the time I got them I always had 100 in Explosives and all the explosive feats. I probably did triple damage with a much larger blast radius too.
I could stomp deathclaws very quickly, especially in narrow canyons.

This was at level 50 with 100 Explosives skill and +20% explosives damage perk. It might have been a scaling issue where it's not as hard at lower experience levels. I don't think weapon damage scales up with anything other than skill level, but monsters get upgrades and tons of more life as you go up in level. Of course if you go into a place and back out, that place is forever locked to the difficulty it WAS at. E.g., if you visit a deathclaw den at level 1 and run back out, and then go back at level 50 you will fight against incredibly weak deathclaws because they were scaled for level 1 and remain stuck at that scaling. At least that is my understanding of how the Fallout NV difficulty scaling works.

 

[shortylickens]

Not everything in New Vegas scales with your level.

They caught lots of flak from that with Oblivion.

 

[shortylickens]

BUMP!

Read the dates!


OK, if anyone has not yet tried it, the Mission Mojave Ultimate Edition is a mod that fixes a ton of bugs in the game. But not everything.

Some serious quest bugs still in place:


- If you pick up Ed-E at Primm, it automatically starts his companion quest. If you've started it, then you cannot enter the Honest Hearts expansion area. It crashes every time. Currently there is no workaround for this, not even with the setstage command or set quest levels. Even if you disable Ed-E's quest, the bug is still there.

- If you pick up the different Ed-E in the Divide (Lonesome road expansion pack) its the same problem. A bug enters the game and you can never do Honest Hearts. Bethesda never fixed this, and currently has no plans to. Its only on the Windows version and they dont give a damn.

- If you go very far in Yes Man's quest, the other lines become off limits to you. Thats normal and is not a bug, their quests will fail. BUT, there is a bug that comes up if you get a little too far into Yes Mans quest even though the Legion and NCR are not officially cut off from you. In the case of the NCR you will have a crash right after Ranger Grant tries sending you to protect the president. The workaround is to use the setstage command to go past the presidential visit and into the defense mission when the legion tries to raid. Unfortunately if you use that the Legate never appears outside his tent for the end game battle. If you summon him he is invincible and you cannot beat the game. You need to use another setstage command the start the end game sequence with Oliver.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Eureka! (see the Bugs section)

If you want you can always just go back to Yes Man and complete his quest, then remember to ignore him entirely on your next play through.

Siding with the Legion also has a similar bug, you cant get too far with Yes Man before the game glitches. And of course again, if you get very far with him everything else is cut off, but thats just normal game play.


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However, the mod does fix a lot of issues with the Great Khans being able to join you, and the Brotherhood and plenty of other major problems.

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/45104

READ EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU INSTALL!!

 

[spaceman]

i think the branches in main quest are better than dlcs
alot better
as i do nv over fallout 3
its simply a better game

 

[AlexAL]

And while on topic, Vegas is 3.99 at Newegg now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832136013

 

[Dijeangenie]

And while on topic, Vegas is 3.99 at Newegg now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832136013

Very Strange price that - considering the ultimate edition is 29.99

 

[shortylickens]

Really wanna be an cheap ass?

You can steal the DLC's online. No DRM. All you have to do is put them in your data folder and enable through the Launcher.

Not that I advocate stealing.
Pay for the game, pay for the DLC.
Bethesda is one of the few companies putting out quality these days.

 

[Dijeangenie]

Really wanna be an cheap ass?

You can steal the DLC's online. No DRM. All you have to do is put them in your data folder and enable through the Launcher.

Not that I advocate stealing.
Pay for the game, pay for the DLC.
Bethesda is one of the few companies putting out quality these days.

Don't make a post telling people that its easy to pirate the DLC and then say "btw I don't advocate stealing". You could steal the whole game online if you wanted...

(Also piracy isn't technically stealing - although you still shouldn't do it)

 

[AlexAL]

Don't make a post telling people that its easy to pirate the DLC and then say "btw I don't advocate stealing". You could steal the whole game online if you wanted...

(Also piracy isn't technically stealing - although you still shouldn't do it)

I'm just happy there are cheaper asses than me.

 

[Dijeangenie]

I'm just happy there are cheaper asses than me.

What are you implying?

 

[Doppel]

Bethesda is one of the few companies putting out quality these days.

It's interesting, this, because when Daggerfall came out 15 (?) years ago I am still buttsore over how fvcking unplayable that buggy piece of crap was. But now, I agree. I am a big fallout whore and they are the best games in this generation of consoles. If they basically put out huge campaigns every 6 months on the same tech as F3/NV I'd buy them every time.