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MagnusTheBrewer

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wiki is actually ok, the problem is he listened to wikiHOW.
Wikihow is terrible

which gives me a terrible idea, write bad wiki articles out of spite to make the site worse

This isn't the thread for a wiki discussion but, I said not to use wiki as a PRIMARY source. In other words, read any links or cited books first.
 

Idontcare

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BonzaiDuck

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Being the type to squeeze every Celsius in cooling from my processor, I'd mostly lapped any processor that came into my hands.

And when I began thinking to build an E system in the next 6 mo to year from now, I was asking myself whether I would dare lap an X model.

While I'll probably go with 5820K, I also concluded that I wouldn't do that.

$1,000 is a LOT of Mexican dinners . . . I could eat myself sick and silly past tax season. . . .
 

Idontcare

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Is ok, just asking whether returning is possible; I don't mind owning a 5960x for e-peen.

You could always sell it. Not that you'll recover 100% of the cost outlay, but I don't think you'll take too much of a bath either.

Biggest issue you'll have is convincing potential buyers that you didn't do something stupid like push 1.6V through it for suicide benches or some such.
 

Idontcare

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Being the type to squeeze every Celsius in cooling from my processor, I'd mostly lapped any processor that came into my hands.

And when I began thinking to build an E system in the next 6 mo to year from now, I was asking myself whether I would dare lap an X model.

While I'll probably go with 5820K, I also concluded that I wouldn't do that.

$1,000 is a LOT of Mexican dinners . . . I could eat myself sick and silly past tax season. . . .

The first CPU I ever sanded was a $40 celeron, used purely for a learning vehicle because the second CPU I ever lapped was my $1500 QX6700.

Both survived the lapping. However, the QX6700 did not survive the effects of prolonged and repeated exposure to water/condensation that came with 2+ years of near 24/7 vaporphase cooling. The chip died and I moved on to a 2600K.

Personally I say just do it. YOLO. Am willing to bet you will spend far more than $1K on wine/alcohol and fine dining with steaks and seafood over the next year or two than you spend on your processors. At least I hope you do, I intend to ;)
 

BonzaiDuck

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The first CPU I ever sanded was a $40 celeron, used purely for a learning vehicle because the second CPU I ever lapped was my $1500 QX6700.

Both survived the lapping. However, the QX6700 did not survive the effects of prolonged and repeated exposure to water/condensation that came with 2+ years of near 24/7 vaporphase cooling. The chip died and I moved on to a 2600K.

Personally I say just do it. YOLO. Am willing to bet you will spend far more than $1K on wine/alcohol and fine dining with steaks and seafood over the next year or two than you spend on your processors. At least I hope you do, I intend to ;)

There's this chain of stores here in CA called "Trader Joe's." I think they may be national, but I only heard so far about a store in Albuquerque. Anyway, they market exclusively a brand of "Mendocino vino" called "Charles Shaw." Until the price went up $0.50, we called it "Two-Buck Chuck."

They're quick to say that the Cab, Shiraz, Merlot, Blanc, Zinfandel and Chardonnay are often "blended" stocks from other north coast vintners. But the skinny in the Times suggested that good years and bad years were a general phenomenon. You take a bottle home of the latest -- this year it would be the 2013. If you like it, you go get a case and put it back. So I've built a wine-chiller out of a freezer and a Johnson Controls device that keeps it between 55 and 57F. I have pulled six-year-old bottles of "Chuck" from the bottom racks and often found they were as good as the six-year-old $15 bottle from the store shelf.

I like to dine out, but my sauce is better, my pizza is better, my tacos and burritos are better. I used to dine out just to steal the recipes. Once it took me six months to discover the secret of a Cappellini with shrimp in red-sauce and spinach. The waiter up in San Rafael had misled me: "Tabasco." Bull-shit! Garden-fresh Cayenne.

Anyway, 2013 -- despite the earthquake -- is going to be a very, very good year. A little drought is good for the grapes! I'll put some back and pull out a $10 bottle of Ruffino Chianti that probably tastes like their $20 Classico by now.

Too bad an i7-5960X doesn't get better with age!! :biggrin:
 

BonzaiDuck

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I have to drive all the way over to Santa Ana or Yorba Linda or some place for MicroCenter. But the Traders is 2 miles down the hill across from a cell-phone store. People here think those are "computers."
 

PG

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All sorts of fail here.
I call the IHS side of the cpu the top. I have NEVER heard of this called the back. Actually I never hear anyone call either side the back. The bottom is what I call the side with the gold pads (intel), or pins (AMD).
At first I thought the OP sanded off the gold pads which would probably ruin the cpu completely.
 

BonzaiDuck

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All sorts of fail here.
I call the IHS side of the cpu the top. I have NEVER heard of this called the back. The back is what I call the side with the gold pads (intel), or pins (AMD).
At first I thought the OP sanded off the gold pads which would probably ruin the cpu completely.

I read recently here in which one of our well-known veteran members described ruining his CPU by lapping. The story drew on the possibility of copper particles somehow getting into the "works" under the IHS, or maybe it was a droplet of water which shorted something later.

I use a few drops of water on my Wet-or-Dri 400-grit sandpaper, but I'd always taken pains with it, and don't regard lapping as a risk but to one thing: the warranty. And I'm of the view that lapping off all the nickel-plate is better, just as lapping it off the bottom of the HSF base is better.

But it gives one pause, having spent a Grand on a processor. To someone who is in a panic because they lapped their X processor, I'd say you shouldn't do anything until you've thoroughly researched the consequences.
 

Ecliptic

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It's common to sand down the back of the cpu to get rid of the old thermal paste. I always do that. I do it this time because core #2 is running few C hotter than other cores. So I reapply thermal paste again.

Oh man! That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Next time try a Q-Tip, rubbing alcohol and a lint free cloth my friend...
 

IBuyUFO

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What the hell people? You don't need any of that fancy stuff. Just use a paper towel on a flat surface and lay the cpu upside down. Start rubbing it on the paper towel back and forth and check to see if there's anything left. Fold used paper towel and remove any remaining paste.
 

Idontcare

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What the hell people? You don't need any of that fancy stuff. Just use a paper towel on a flat surface and lay the cpu upside down. Start rubbing it on the paper towel back and forth and check to see if there's anything left. Fold used paper towel and remove any remaining paste.

Why would you remove the CPU from the socket just to remove the TIM from the top of the IHS? Your process sounds like a lot of work to me. I always clean off the TIM while the CPU is firmly locked into the socket.