Red, we are no more animals than anyone, but I admit, people here - the normal people are quite nuts, their dark nature I don't want to explore nor advice anyone to, but besides that we are very nice folks, always happy, we love songs, our whole society evolves around singing. The primitives are the same no matter where you are, people are people, the animal nature can't be ignored, and until Anand has 6 billion users (I regard Anand members enlightened people, at least everyone who can use a search engine for stuff other than "sex, xxx, porn" I think of as enlightened) then the world will be cruel place to live.