Retiree Fights With Man Over Foul Language

Amused

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Retiree Fights With Man Over Foul Language

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - A 79-year-old retiree who tussled with a man half his age over the man's foul language in a restaurant was sentenced to probation - but outside of that, he's been treated more like a hero than a criminal.

Bill Stevenson said the fracas began in July when he and another retired 3M engineer, 74-year-old Sten Gerfast, were having coffee at a bagel shop. In walked 40-year-old Jesse Tabor, talking on a cell phone and liberally using four-letter words, the men said.

In an interview after the incident, Tabor said he didn't recall cursing. But Stevenson and Gerfast remember it differently.

"There was an argument on the phone," Stevenson said. "The third time he walked by our booth ... Mr. Gerfast said to me, 'Should I do something about it?"'

So Gerfast tapped Tabor on the shoulder and asked him to take his call outside, Stevenson said. But Tabor, who was with his 13-year-old daughter at the time, dismissed him. Stevenson said he got involved when Tabor continued to shout obscenities.

"I've been in lots of different places, but when I heard that kind of stuff coming in my hometown, I thought, 'Somebody's got to do something,"' Stevenson said.

Stevenson grabbed the phone from Tabor and the two men engaged in a few seconds of tug-of-war. Thinking better of it, Stevenson said he let go and Tabor "went sailing across the floor."

Stevenson pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct Tuesday and was given three months of probation. But even the lawyers at Ramsey County District Court were giving him thumbs-up signs as he left the courtroom, he said.

"I've had over 30 calls and letters and e-mails, and I've not had one negative call. They're all on my side," Stevenson said.

Gerfast was acquitted of disorderly conduct charges last month. Tabor failed to appear at a September hearing and a bench warrant was issued for him.

Stevenson claimed Tabor "mocked me about being an old man."

"I just sat there and drank my coffee," Stevenson said. "I thought, 'You can think what you want, mister, but a couple of senior citizens stood up to you, and we ought to get a little bit more respect."
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
This is why we have Retirement Homes.

To house old men who can beat the sh!t out of 40 year olds? I think not.
 

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Awesome Story. Isn't swearing in public illegal anyway?
Yes, but you need proof of it; word against word isn't good enough.
 

Zanix

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:beer: Cheers to that man. We gotta keep cuss words bad, else how else are we going to be foul?
 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
This is why we have Retirement Homes.

To house old men who can beat the sh!t out of 40 year olds? I think not.

Did you read the story? He did not beat the sh!t out of anyone. They argued, pulled the phone back and forth, and the younger guy fell down when the older guy stopped try to take his phone.
That is not getting the sh!t beat out of you.
That is an old man with his panties in a wad.
Granted, I would get upset to, I would not try to take the man's phone away.
Speaking to the manager would be the best way to go, IMO.
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
This is why we have Retirement Homes.

To house old men who can beat the sh!t out of 40 year olds? I think not.

Did you read the story? He did not beat the sh!t out of anyone. They argued, pulled the phone back and forth, and the younger guy fell down when the older guy stopped try to take his phone.
That is not getting the sh!t beat out of you.
That is an old man with his panties in a wad.
Granted, I would get upset to, I would not try to take the man's phone away.
Speaking to the manager would be the best way to go, IMO.
No, the best way to go would be to beat the sh!t out of the father for acting like a ass in public around his daughter... But something tells me that would have ended worse for the old guy in court. You know, it takes a villiage to raise a child. :p
 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
This is why we have Retirement Homes.

To house old men who can beat the sh!t out of 40 year olds? I think not.

Did you read the story? He did not beat the sh!t out of anyone. They argued, pulled the phone back and forth, and the younger guy fell down when the older guy stopped try to take his phone.
That is not getting the sh!t beat out of you.
That is an old man with his panties in a wad.
Granted, I would get upset to, I would not try to take the man's phone away.
Speaking to the manager would be the best way to go, IMO.
No, the best way to go would be to beat the sh!t out of the father for acting like a ass in public around his daughter... But something tells me that would have ended worse for the old guy in court. You know, it takes a villiage to raise a child. :p

If you want to go to jail, yes, that would be the best way to go. But seeing an old man beat the everloving sh!t out of your father as a child could also be a bit traumatic. :p
 

iamme

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:laugh:

falling on your ass after a tug-o-war with your cell phone, with a 74 year old = PWNED.

 

Ime

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Obviously this 40-year old has no respect to anything or anyone.

He failed to appear before a judge. Now they have a warrant out for his arrest. You honestly think the judge is going to want to hear his side of the story when he doesn't even give respect to the judge by showing up? heh
 

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Good for the old guy.

I swear as much as the next guy, but I have friends at the restaurant who swear every second word... **** this, **** that.... etc... and I find it horribly insulting to everyone else there.
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: Ime
Obviously this 40-year old has no respect to anything or anyone.

He failed to appear before a judge. Now they have a warrant out for his arrest. You honestly think the judge is going to want to hear his side of the story when he doesn't even give respect to the judge by showing up? heh
He'll have ZERO credibility in court, that's for sure. Not that he'd have had much to begin with...
 

Thump553

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That article is confusingly written and makes little sense. The first paragraph states the old guy was put on probation, but near the end of the article it mentions he was acquitted on a disorderly conduct charge. Nowhere does the article mention what, if any, charge he was convicted of. And if he wasn't convicted of anything, then the court has no authority to sentence him.