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[Retired] The LCD Thread

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akrobet said:
I have recently bought an HP LP2475w but can't get used to its black. It is too bright even when brightness set to ca. 20, it changes rapidly with different angles and there is visible blacklight bleeding from all corners of the screen.
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In other words, your monitor has a less than desirable viewing angle and a lot of light leakage, the known problems with LCD's, in general, that have been largely overcome or improved in the latest offerings from better makers.

If you're still within the return period, send it back and get a monitor that works. And before you buy another one, specs on paper are a start, but nothing beats going to a store and comparing at the models that interest you side by side.
 
Can anyone tell me about the Acer G205HV (as in good/average/bad/terrible and why)? Analyzing monitor specs isn't my strong suit. They're like irresistibly cheap... I'm considering them for a triple setup. Thanks.
 
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Anyone have experience with higher priced pro monitors, like from Eizo, etc? I'm putting together a home studio for video editing and would like some higher quality monitors, but don't know if these are really worth it. I'll be working in mostly sRGB. I've looked into the Dell Ultrasharp line, which seems really good for the money, especially the 23" U2311 and NEC. I don't care about gaming as this system will only be used with video production.

There seems to be a lack of information regarding higher quality monitors for video production. TN monitors seem to be the thing pushed these days.
 
Any suggestions for a monitor with a height-adjustable stand, matt/anti-glare screen, low input lag and response time? Size should be in the 22" - 24" range, and I'm OK with a TN panel (currently using a LG 1970HR). DisplayPort would be nice, but not essential.

It'll mostly be used for gaming and MS Office work.

I've looked at the Samsung BX2440X (1920x1080) and HP LA2205wg (1680x1050), but was looking for other suggestions.

[edit] after many hours of online research, I ended up picking up a LG W2442PA from a B&M store. Prad.de seem to like it.
 
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So i've spent the last couple of weeks bouncing between this thread and the displays forum at HardOCP and i'm seemingly as stuck as ever. I'm in the market for a new monitor since my trusty 20WMGX2 seems to be going (has a weird faded black chevron shaped line going across the top, no idea if that's fixable and it's long since out of warranty).

The general consensus seems to be that there is no direct upgrade from this masterpiece of a gamer's monitor and any of the new monitors seems to be pretty lacking in any reviews beyond Newegg and Amazon reviews (which may be hit or miss).

There seems to be some cult support for monitors with 1920x1200 reso but there's few that seem to be true gaming monitors. Is it really worth the extra cost if all i'm really doing is gaming? I'd love to have the option of hopping into a store and seeing these thing firsthand but apparently I live in the blackhole for monitors and none of the models that people are pulling the triggers on are actually options at any of the brick and mortar stores in my area.

I've been eyeing some of the 120hz monitors but there seems to be relatively little noise about them in this thread and little feedback on them over at HardOCP outside of some of the new ones that have yet to hit the market. The Samsung 2233RZ seems to be the reviewer favorite but it's only 1680x1050, is that good enough anymore?

I want to say my budget is ~300-400USD. I was looking at the Acer G245Hbmid but maybe there's better?
 
Kelston said:
So i've spent the last couple of weeks bouncing between this thread and the displays forum at HardOCP and i'm seemingly as stuck as ever. I'm in the market for a new monitor since my trusty 20WMGX2 seems to be going (has a weird faded black chevron shaped line going across the top, no idea if that's fixable and it's long since out of warranty).

The general consensus seems to be that there is no direct upgrade from this masterpiece of a gamer's monitor and any of the new monitors seems to be pretty lacking in any reviews beyond Newegg and Amazon reviews (which may be hit or miss).

There seems to be some cult support for monitors with 1920x1200 reso but there's few that seem to be true gaming monitors. Is it really worth the extra cost if all i'm really doing is gaming? I'd love to have the option of hopping into a store and seeing these thing firsthand but apparently I live in the blackhole for monitors and none of the models that people are pulling the triggers on are actually options at any of the brick and mortar stores in my area.

I've been eyeing some of the 120hz monitors but there seems to be relatively little noise about them in this thread and little feedback on them over at HardOCP outside of some of the new ones that have yet to hit the market. The Samsung 2233RZ seems to be the reviewer favorite but it's only 1680x1050, is that good enough anymore?

I want to say my budget is ~300-400USD. I was looking at the Acer G245Hbmid but maybe there's better?
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i suggest you look at this
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1229341472

if you can spend $50 more

i recommend you get the Alienware Optx

by far the best gaming monitor ever

don't get that acer crap, its a piece of junk
tomshardware got a review of both
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/3D-Monitor-Acer-Alienware,review-1506-7.html


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here is a more indepth review of the alienware including calibration settings
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1275899900

if that is your absolute budget
then get the Samsung 2233RZ instead, most of the 120hz for ($300-400)monitors are piece of junk, the Samsung 2233RZ is almost as good as the alienware. the downside is it is not 1080p only 1680x1050
detailed review here
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1258548173
 
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Kelston said:
There seems to be some cult support for monitors with 1920x1200 reso but there's few that seem to be true gaming monitors. Is it really worth the extra cost if all i'm really doing is gaming? I'd love to have the option of hopping into a store and seeing these thing firsthand but apparently I live in the blackhole for monitors and none of the models that people are pulling the triggers on are actually options at any of the brick and mortar stores in my area.
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Unfortunately the retail stores, even in my city, don't carry any higher-end monitors. All I see are cheap TN panels, except for the 27" Apple Cinema Display. Even my Fry's store only carries lower-end LCD's and don't even have them set up properly. They have a low quality TV feed going to them all and have bright florescent lights above the display. I couldn't tell what monitor looked better, so I walked out and decided not to buy from that store.

Just remember also that the higher resolution of monitor, you will need a better video card for games. I currently have a Samsung 22" 1680x1050 and 9800GT. This card actually still plays most newer games fine at that resolution. But I'll probably have to upgrade it soon, if I go for a higher resolution monitor.
 
Greetings, all - I'm shopping for a new monitor and getting very frustrated. My tastes are apparently way out of the mainstream, as I love high-PPI panels. I've built myself a new "chair side" PC to replace the laptop (ThinkPad T40) I've been using in my easy chair, and the only piece left is the monitor, which will be installed on an arm. As the display will be quite close up, I don't want something enormous - but I refuse to back down in resolution from the 1400x1050 display I have on the T40 - especially in terms of vertical resolution.

Given this use, a VESA mount is absolutely essential, and I would really prefer an HDMI interface; the PC has VGA, DVI and HDMI - but HDMI cables are less bulky and remove the need for a separate audio cable. For cable bulk reasons, I'd prefer an external power brick to a direct AC connection. Speakers in the monitor would be a plus, but I can live without them. I'd prefer LED illumination, but I'll tolerate CCFL. I prefer 16:10 displays, but under the circumstances will grit my teeth and accept a 1920x1080 if all the other features are right. IPS is preferred, TN is a no-go. Oh yes - and I'm a matte/anti-glare person... I really can't stand glossy.

I really, REALLY wish I could get a 17" IPS 1920x1200 for this purpose, if that gives you an idea where my preferences are.

Any pointers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
 
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FurrTheBear said:
Greetings, all - I'm shopping for a new monitor and getting very frustrated. My tastes are apparently way out of the mainstream, as I love high-PPI panels. I've built myself a new "chair side" PC to replace the laptop (ThinkPad T40) I've been using in my easy chair, and the only piece left is the monitor, which will be installed on an arm. As the display will be quite close up, I don't want something enormous - but I refuse to back down in resolution from the 1400x1050 display I have on the T40 - especially in terms of vertical resolution.

Given this use, a VESA mount is absolutely essential, and I would really prefer an HDMI interface; the PC has VGA, DVI and HDMI - but HDMI cables are less bulky and remove the need for a separate audio cable. For cable bulk reasons, I'd prefer an external power brick to a direct AC connection. Speakers in the monitor would be a plus, but I can live without them. I'd prefer LED illumination, but I'll tolerate CCFL. I prefer 16:10 displays, but under the circumstances will grit my teeth and accept a 1920x1080 if all the other features are right. IPS is preferred, TN is a no-go. Oh yes - and I'm a matte/anti-glare person... I really can't stand glossy.

I really, REALLY wish I could get a 17" IPS 1920x1200 for this purpose, if that gives you an idea where my preferences are.

Any pointers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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possible, yes. It's going to be expensive and custom now.

i am thinking you need less than you think.
 
alkemyst said:
i am thinking you need less than you think
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What gives you the idea you know what I need? I see no reason to take a step DOWN from what I currently have. It's called UPgrading for a reason!

That said, I'd actually be pretty happy with 1680x1050 - same vertical resolution as I have now - but all the ones I've found have been TN panels and the same size or minimally smaller than the smallest 1920x1080 monitors... so I don't really see a reason not to go for the 1920x.
 
furrthebear said:
what gives you the idea you know what i need? I see no reason to take a step down from what i currently have. It's called upgrading for a reason!

That said, i'd actually be pretty happy with 1680x1050 - same vertical resolution as i have now - but all the ones i've found have been tn panels and the same size or minimally smaller than the smallest 1920x1080 monitors... So i don't really see a reason not to go for the 1920x.
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wwybywb?
 
FurrTheBear said:
What gives you the idea you know what I need? I see no reason to take a step DOWN from what I currently have. It's called UPgrading for a reason!
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The combination of your "wants" (i.e. HDMI, non-TN panel, high resolution, small size and VESA mount) is rare for a reason - there's little demand for it. Your best bet is to get a laptop, or jury rig a laptop screen into a custom housing.
 
thedosbox said:
The combination of your "wants" (i.e. HDMI, non-TN panel, high resolution, small size and VESA mount) is rare for a reason - there's little demand for it. Your best bet is to get a laptop, or jury rig a laptop screen into a custom housing.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear that I do understand my ideal in terms of size isn't really attainable without going custom. I was trying to give a fuller idea of what appeals to me to anyone who might have a suggestion. I want to do the best I can with the other features while going no bigger than, say, 22-23" and to make sure that I'm not discovering something better shortly after I buy something else... 🙂
 
There will always be something better shortly after these days.

At 22" there are tons of ips panels, Dell for one.

MVA and PVA may be better options, but the OP gave us no clue what they will be doing with this.

In reality this should be it's own thread.
 
can someone recommend a good monitor for me, using these criteria

1. Has to be made by HP (friend of mine is leaving the company and has employee discount)

2. Has to be around $200


thanks,
rob
 
Think I'm going with the U2410 and a 6950 come the new year. The U2711 is so tempting but the 16:9 is really bothering me, even with the really low pixel pitch. Anyone here want to talk me out of it? 😛 This is pretty much for gaming as well.

I think the U3011 would just be to big for me. Eventually I'll get a second U2410.
 
Got some money for xmas and would like to get a new monitor. I game and surf the web etc etc. I like my monitor to be good with FPS yet have good colors. Would the Dell U2410 or the I-Inc 28 inch work, and if so which one?
 
Whatever happened to HP's ZR24w? Nobody has anymore (eg, BH Photo, Newegg, Bestbuy and even HP says call). This 16:10 LCD has been unavailable for a number of months. I doubt that it is being phased out as it is a relatively new introduction.

BTW, I was watching the special features of an HD movie about how the movie was made. It is interesting to note that in the movie editing rooms, none of the technicians use (nor could there be found) a 16:9 monitor. Everybody used either 4:3 or more common 16:10 to get the work done! So from the manufacturing industry which owns more and more of the movie industry, it seems to be "do as I say not as I do".
 
C1 said:
BTW, I was watching the special features of an HD movie about how the movie was made. It is interesting to note that in the movie editing rooms, none of the technicians use (nor could there be found) a 16:9 monitor. Everybody used either 4:3 or more common 16:10 to get the work done!
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Yeah, the 16:9 is not a very productive working ratio. I hate it.
 
I finally pulled the trigger and bought a 27" Assus from NE:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-091-_-Product


Say all you want about TN vs. IPS panels, light bleed, etc. but it was a truly amazing experience when I turned the monitor on for the first time. Not only (it seems) has TN-based quality/technology improved since I bought my old 19" Samsung ... but the size jump of 8" in aperture blew me away.

No matter what anyone tells you ... try to get a first-hand look at the new monitor you are considering BEFORE you buy or at least listen and consider the reviews/opinions of others before buying. On a scale from 1 to 10 I would rate my happiness level at a 10. Thanks to NE's gift card promotion a week before Christmas I spent only $219 for this. Amazing.
 
Im happy for you dude. But put up a BW PIX (eg, a movie) and sit down in your easy chair and observe the shades of gray changing octaves. Been there done all that testing at Frys. TN is okay if you glue your nose to the screen or if you just dont care about anything except narrow/nitch utilization.
 
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