Restaurant refused to serve trump supporter

[buckshot24]

He's going to build a wall...they're Mexican...and very proud of it.

Only if you have this strawman view of Trump supporters. Your perceptions are the problem.

 

[Painman]

You're giving him too much credit for intelligence, you gotta hit him over the head with a brick for him to get it. He probably doesn't even remember how much he screamed about it when Ari Fleischer said the exact same damn thing and he thought it was Un-American. Oh the cows the left had when he said "all Americans that they need to watch what they say, watch what they do."

I remember that quote, and I was actually looking for that quote, but all I could quickly find was links to the entire 27 minute shpeel. Lost my patience, and posted what I posted.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Only if you have this strawman view of Trump supporters. Your perceptions are the problem.

Not really I was going for humor

 

[Knowing]

Wait this thread is about Hillary?

No but she is a candidate and buyer beware cuts both ways.

Hillary is slightly more warhawkish than Obama and drammatically less warhawkish than any GOP candidate excluding maybe Rand Paul. So if your goal is to keep the country off the war path as much as possible, you should be voting for Hillary in November.

There is also no conclusive evidence that Hillary is a corporatist bankster sellout, but even if there was, the GOP panders to that sector harder anyway, so if your goal is to limit corporate and bankster influence on government, you should be voting for Hillary in November.

I think Hillary is considerably more hawkish than Obama. My concern with her is that her former lackeys are already paving the way for a shooting war with Russia after screwing up more countries in the Middle East and supporting a coup in Central America. At least with a conservative there will be popular opposition to any hawkishness. With Hillary I'm predicting that anyone who opposes her ambitions of American imperialism will be called a sexist because the intervention is "necessary" or the "bad guys" crossed a "line in the sand." Judging from how much money Hillary has received from wall street and co. (See also, insurance company donations to Obama) I'm not inclined to believe that either of the major parties isn't a wholly owned subsidiary of bad actors in Manhattan. I wish more than anything that I could throw my vote away this year like every election before it but this time I'm probably going to get roped in to picking a side.

Q: Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are stranded together on a deserted island, who lives?
A:

Spoiler

The American people.

 

[dank69]

First of all, I'm not a Trump supporter

Second of all, you're a mindless authoritarian jackhat for believing in the power of peer pressure.

I didn't say you were. The "you" in that post was clearly referring to the person who has a Trump sign on their lawn.

 

[dank69]

No but she is a candidate and buyer beware cuts both ways.



I think Hillary is considerably more hawkish than Obama. My concern with her is that her former lackeys are already paving the way for a shooting war with Russia after screwing up more countries in the Middle East and supporting a coup in Central America. At least with a conservative there will be popular opposition to any hawkishness. With Hillary I'm predicting that anyone who opposes her ambitions of American imperialism will be called a sexist because the intervention is "necessary" or the "bad guys" crossed a "line in the sand." Judging from how much money Hillary has received from wall street and co. (See also, insurance company donations to Obama) I'm not inclined to believe that either of the major parties isn't a wholly owned subsidiary of bad actors in Manhattan. I wish more than anything that I could throw my vote away this year like every election before it but this time I'm probably going to get roped in to picking a side.

Q: Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are stranded together on a deserted island, who lives?
A:

Spoiler

The American people.

I can't roll my eyes hard enough at the bolded.

 

[fskimospy]

I can't roll my eyes hard enough at the bolded.

It must be tough for him to live his life as an eternal victim of liberal bullying.

I'm happy to see conservatives are already trying to inoculate themselves against the very real sexism that exists in America by attempting to preemptively delegitimize that sort of criticism. You saw it with Obama and race.

 

[cbrunny]

Be sure not to miss the next article...

http://nypost.com/2016/07/04/this-bodybuilder-is-ready-to-kick-isis-ass/

Hulk smash … ISIS.

A musclebound behemoth known as the “Iranian Hulk” is set to be unleashed on Islamic State terrorists.

The 24-year-old weightlifter, whose real name is Sajad Gharibi, plans to bust out his weapons of mass destruction — in the case, bulging delts, biceps and triceps — on the jihadi occupiers in Syria.

I want so badly for this to be a movie.

 

[Knowing]

I can't roll my eyes hard enough at the bolded.

Why? In the beginning of the Obama presidency when it was decided that drone strikes were constitutional and he would preserve extraordinary rendition and I pointed out that those were two very bad Bush policies that he was critical of I was called a racist, it continued with GITMO the targetted killing program, etc, on and on, ad nauseum. I'm merely extrapolating the identity politics in play now.

 

[Painman]

Here's one of the results that came up when I googled, "Be careful what you say"

And it's from 2006... when the presidency was still a mere twitching sensation in Hillary's crotch, not the full-on devouring phenomenon that it is now

https://youtu.be/LDodWOCFxeI

 

[glenn1]

The problem here is that you're dancing a fine line between the potential 'political' message of the t-shirt and established racial discrimination laws.

Yep, who do you think will make greater use of fskimospy's "opinion = no service", people righteously refusing service to some Trump supporter, or bigots using it to wholesale deny service to blacks, gays, and any other targeted group? For every baker that you force to make a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage there will be hundreds of blacks being turned away not because of their race but instead for their "opinions." Which opinion doesn't even really matter. Hell, something like "nice weather today isn't it?" is an opinion.

 

[fskimospy]

Yep, who do you think will make greater use of fskimospy's "opinion = no service", people righteously refusing service to some Trump supporter, or bigots using it to wholesale deny service to blacks, gays, and any other targeted group? For every baker that you force to make a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage there will be hundreds of blacks being turned away not because of their race but instead for their "opinions." Which opinion doesn't even really matter. Hell, something like "nice weather today isn't it?" is an opinion.

It's not like you're the first person to come up with that idea. People usually try to claim that their denials based on race or whatever are really based in something else. It's usually ineffective. I have no doubt people will keep trying it, but such is life. That's when you bring down the hammer.

We will keep forcing bakers to abide by the law, same as racists.

 

[glenn1]

It's not like you're the first person to come up with that idea. People usually try to claim that their denials based on race or whatever are really based in something else. It's usually ineffective. I have no doubt people will keep trying it, but such is life. That's when you bring down the hammer.

We will keep forcing bakers to abide by the law, same as racists.

Who wins when your overwhelming desire to allow discrimination against those with opinions you dislike (such as supporting Trump) runs up against your hatred of discrimination against oppressed groups?

 

[dank69]

Why? In the beginning of the Obama presidency when it was decided that drone strikes were constitutional and he would preserve extraordinary rendition and I pointed out that those were two very bad Bush policies that he was critical of I was called a racist, it continued with GITMO the targetted killing program, etc, on and on, ad nauseum. I'm merely extrapolating the identity politics in play now.

Got a link to that?

 

[Knowing]

Got a link to that?

I don't. I will say that I was unknowingly following the instructions in the Daily Kos article "How to Criticize Obama Without Being Racist" at the time but it was probably before 2011 when the article was written.

 

[fskimospy]

Who wins when your overwhelming desire to allow discrimination against those with opinions you dislike (such as supporting Trump) runs up against your hatred of discrimination against oppressed groups?

I don't have overwhelming desires when it comes to that, it's just the law. If someone thinks they can cloak their racism behind other reasons I encourage them to try because sooner or later they will reap the consequences.

I'm not just comfortable with discrimination based on choices, I'm an affirmative supporter. You should be too.

 

[Painman]

I don't have overwhelming desires when it comes to that, it's just the law. If someone thinks they can cloak their racism behind other reasons I encourage them to try because sooner or later they will reap the consequences.

I'm not just comfortable with discrimination based on choices, I'm an affirmative supporter. You should be too.

"If someone thinks they can cloak their racism behind other reasons I encourage them to try because sooner or later they will reap the consequences."

Found the racist.

 

[FerrelGeek]

I don't have overwhelming desires when it comes to that, it's just the law. If someone thinks they can cloak their racism behind other reasons I encourage them to try because sooner or later they will reap the consequences.

I'm not just comfortable with discrimination based on choices, I'm an affirmative supporter. You should be too.

So (hypothetically) if a black person wearing Hillary regalia walks into a restaurant and said regalia makes people uncomfortable, the owner of said restaurant (who has Gary Johnson signs posted) is entitled to ask the Hillary supporter to leave and should fear no consequences?

 

[fskimospy]

"If someone thinks they can cloak their racism behind other reasons I encourage them to try because sooner or later they will reap the consequences."

Found the racist.

Really? Where?

 

[fskimospy]

So (hypothetically) if a black person wearing Hillary regalia walks into a restaurant and said regalia makes people uncomfortable, the owner of said restaurant (who has Gary Johnson signs posted) is entitled to ask the Hillary supporter to leave and should fear no consequences?

Yes of course they are allowed to not serve people based on their political affiliation.

 

[glenn1]

Yes of course they are allowed to not serve people based on their political affiliation.

Great, and since what 95% of blacks are Democrats that works out pretty tidily.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Yes of course they are allowed to not serve people based on their political affiliation.

That's the correct answer, but you know bloody well what'll happen.

 

[dank69]

So (hypothetically) if a black person wearing Hillary regalia walks into a restaurant and said regalia makes people uncomfortable, the owner of said restaurant (who has Gary Johnson signs posted) is entitled to ask the Hillary supporter to leave and should fear no consequences?

Eskimospy: They will reap the consequences.

You: They should fear no consequences?

Why are you acting like he said the opposite of what he actually said?

 

[Sonikku]

Somehow liberals will support this. I wonder if the restaurant will be sued and fined for refusing service?

Maybe hang a sign up, no GOP members allowed?

I think it's Republicans that stand up for a business's right to do whatever they want. It ain't the libs.

I think you're confused.

 

[Jhhnn]

To you, no.

So we should believe w/o thinking because... it feels good, or what?

I'm pretty sure it felt good to be a national socialist when Hitler was rebuilding Germany.