Response time/IPS for gaming still matter?

[Shyatic]

It's been a long time since I bought a monitor, but I'm curious... how important is response time for gaming? How about IPS? Other than viewing angle does it get you anything?

I don't want to spend a million bucks, just a good 24-30" (yea, varying sizes but it depends on what's on sale and what is good for the price!) that I can use for primarily gaming on.

Thanks for any advice!

 

[exar333]

The new 23' Dell at ~$200 had a great response rate <20ms lag end-to-end. They have gotten pretty competitive lately.

 

[gpse]

Dell U2312HM is IPS and has excellent response times

 

[ShintaiDK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX6Wau5K6mw

I would spend alittle more and get a U2412M for 300

Screens last for a very long time. And IPS is vastly superiour in quality to TN. Viewing angles, colour reproduction etc.

 

[tweakboy]

Great question.

Im @ 1ms and there is 0 input lag,, plays just like my old fw900 but even nicer looking.

Those who buy LED The response time is 5ms to 8ms some even higher. . thats a laggy mouse for a FPS game.

while I enjoy 1ms with my Mamba !

 

[ShintaiDK]

The responsetime that you see are pretty useless. they measure the change from one graytone to another. While in reality the screen is much different for a higher change.

So a 2ms gaming monitor might actually be 30ms. And a 8-12ms monitor might only be 20ms.

 

[toyota]

Great question.

Im @ 1ms and there is 0 input lag,, plays just like my old fw900 but even nicer looking.

Those who buy LED The response time is 5ms to 8ms some even higher. . thats a laggy mouse for a FPS game.

while I enjoy 1ms with my Mamba !

please not this crap again. the screen response has NOTHING to do with input lag. and LED is just a backlight so that does not add anything to input lag either.

 

[smackababy]

Great question.

Im @ 1ms and there is 0 input lag,, plays just like my old fw900 but even nicer looking.

Those who buy LED The response time is 5ms to 8ms some even higher. . thats a laggy mouse for a FPS game.

while I enjoy 1ms with my Mamba !

I am sure that 7ms delta means a whole lot when you're average ping to the server is 70ms...

 

[ShintaiDK]

If you use DSL and want better pingtime, ask the ISP to disable interleaving. Then you can get 10-15ms less pingtimes. Also known as gamer profiles.

 

[Kalessian]

For quake/cs1.6 and similar FPS, it absolutely matters. Ditto for fast-paced fighting games, and super precise platformers (super meat boy, vvvvv, etc).

For console ports, it won't matter.

 

[Ben90]

I am sure that 7ms delta means a whole lot when you're average ping to the server is 70ms...

The difference is the server has no problem going back in time and interpolating to see if you hit or not. Input delay is a much more subtle creature. By itself, 7ms isn't a big deal, but over the course of actual input -> CPU game tic -> GPU rendering -> monitor delay -> response time there is a decent amount of gain available.

Not that I expect everyone to care about it. I know most people on this forum try to max out in game settings.

 

[xchaotic]

I'm really interested in this too, currently I happen to have a 8msec TN screen and not sure if I want to upgrade to 1/2ms 120Hz screen or an IPS screen instead.
I am tempted to think that the better color reproduction might be a better thing in terms of experience as most of recent games are quite forgiving about a few extra ms of input lag...

 

[toyota]

AGAIN screen response and input lag are two different things.

 

[Ben90]

"NOTHING" might be a bit of a hyperbole. If it takes a monitor 20ms to get a pixel to 0x123456, it just took 20ms to get 0x123456 photons to your eyes.

I do agree that the context Tweakster uses it in is retarded though.

 

[imaheadcase]

Great question.

Im @ 1ms and there is 0 input lag,, plays just like my old fw900 but even nicer looking.

Those who buy LED The response time is 5ms to 8ms some even higher. . thats a laggy mouse for a FPS game.

while I enjoy 1ms with my Mamba !

I don't think you understand monitors, let alone computers.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

Response times of IPS tend to be a little bit slower than TN panels but generally pretty good for gaming, it will cause noticeable ghosting in extreme cases such as black on white.

IPS offer way better viewing angles, they also offer accurate colour, the TN panels use 6bit colour with 2 bit dithering and IPS have true 8 bit colour.

Most of the large 30" monitors are IPS, you can't use TN panels at that kind of size really, the bad viewing angles of TN make it hard to keep brightness and colours uniformly good across the panel.