Resistance is futile . . . you will be assimilated

[Bateluer]

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/comscore-android-grows-us-smartphone-market-share-as-all-others/

Slip on your fine silk smoking jacket and light up a victory cigar US Android fans, the latest comScore numbers are out for the three-month period ending in May 2010. The most notable trend spotted was a 4 point (up from 9.0% to 13.0%) quarterly increase in Google's Android market share as all other smartphone OS subscribers declined. ComScore also saw Motorola's slide continue, slipping behind LG now for a third place US finish as Samsung continued to bolster its dominant position. Expect the numbers to be jostled a bit next quarter when Apple's iPhone 4 numbers are factored in. Just don't expect to see the Android numbers suffer, especially with the Samsung Galaxy S launching on all the major US carriers before the quarter is done.

You culture will adapt to service us.

 

[TheWart]

I dunno. I could see it getting to ~40% over time, but I think both RIM and Apple have a pretty solid userbase.

 

[Bateluer]

I dunno. I could see it getting to ~40% over time, but I think both RIM and Apple have a pretty solid userbase.

Apple yes, they have a very dedicated customer base that will buy whatever iPhone Apple produces. Features, hardware, and capabilities are irrelevant, so long as it has an Apple logo and is shiny.

RIM, on the other hand, has been falling behind in all ares where it matters for a while now. BlackBerry OS is currently extremely dated, though BBOS6 may change this. I don't recall anyone getting excited over the latest Blackberry device either. They may have a strong hold in the corporate setting still, but I don't see Google and Co or Apple leaving that market untapped.

 

[TheWart]

Apple yes, they have a very dedicated customer base that will buy whatever iPhone Apple produces. Features, hardware, and capabilities are irrelevant, so long as it has an Apple logo and is shiny.

RIM, on the other hand, has been falling behind in all ares where it matters for a while now. BlackBerry OS is currently extremely dated, though BBOS6 may change this. I don't recall anyone getting excited over the latest Blackberry device either. They may have a strong hold in the corporate setting still, but I don't see Google and Co or Apple leaving that market untapped.

Ah yes, the old "only idiots buy Apple hardware" line...not even gonna address that assertion.


As for the bolded, you could have accurately said that about RIM for at least the last two years, but you haven't seen their marketshare take a big hit (held steady around 40%).

 

[dwell]

Windows Phone 7 is going to cut into Android's market share, at least initially.

 

[tatteredpotato]

Ah yes, the old "only idiots buy Apple hardware" line...not even gonna address that assertion.


As for the bolded, you could have accurately said that about RIM for at least the last two years, but you haven't seen their marketshare take a big hit (held steady around 40%).

To be fair he didn't say ONLY idiots buy Apple hardware... but there is truth to the fact that a lot of uninformed people do buy Apple stuff.

Windows Phone 7 is going to cut into Android's market share, at least initially.

I don't know... I think Microsoft will take a decent amount of iPhone business too. Microsoft has the advertising budget to target mainstream people, something Android didn't have before Verizon's Droid campaign. Also people who like the integration and limitations (for good reason) of the iPhone may feel more at home with Windows 7 Phone (or whatever it's called this week).

 

[TheWart]

I don't know... I think Microsoft will take a decent amount of iPhone business too. Microsoft has the advertising budget to target mainstream people, something Android didn't have before Verizon's Droid campaign. Also people who like the integration and limitations (for good reason) of the iPhone may feel more at home with Windows 7 Phone (or whatever it's called this week).

It will definitely be interesting to see how things shake out. Each platform has a core set of fans that won't switch under almost any circumstance, along with users on the periphery that couldn't really care less what their phone runs. I tend to think that WP7 will initially eat more into potential Android sales, but that is just based on scattered reporting that iOS users are twice as likely to actually buy apps (as opposed to just getting free ones) compared to Android users. That makes me think that relatively more iPhone users feel locked-in compared to Android users. Granted, that assumption could be completely wrong though.

Regardless, there are enough WM6 users still out there to allow WP7 to grow very quickly without really 'taking away' marketshare from RIM, Apple, or Android.

 

[Phobic9]

Weren't most of the iPhone 4's sales upgrades vs new users? Does that graph also count other iOS devices (iPod touch, iPad)?

 

[dwell]

Regardless, there are enough WM6 users still out there to allow WP7 to grow very quickly without really 'taking away' marketshare from RIM, Apple, or Android.

Well, it looks like Android has been growing mainly at WinMob's expense. The phones are basically cut from the same cloth (HTC). WP7 should take a few points back that were lost as WinMob floundered.

I think Zune vs iPod has proven Microsoft marketing is no match for Apple's.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Weren't most of the iPhone 4's sales upgrades vs new users? Does that graph also count other iOS devices (iPod touch, iPad)?

~75% IIRC, looks like it's smartphones only on the table shown.

 

[gorcorps]

Apple yes, they have a very dedicated customer base that will buy whatever iPhone Apple produces. Features, hardware, and capabilities are irrelevant, so long as it has an Apple logo and is shiny.

RIM, on the other hand, has been falling behind in all ares where it matters for a while now. BlackBerry OS is currently extremely dated, though BBOS6 may change this. I don't recall anyone getting excited over the latest Blackberry device either. They may have a strong hold in the corporate setting still, but I don't see Google and Co or Apple leaving that market untapped.

RIM never tried too hard to get mainstream appeal. They area still by far the most widely used phone for power business users. As soon as Android handles messaging and exchange servers as well as blackberries do then you may see that decline, but until then I don't see RIM getting dethroned from the large business market.

 

[Deeko]

Weren't most of the iPhone 4's sales upgrades vs new users? Does that graph also count other iOS devices (iPod touch, iPad)?

Only smartphones. These numbers are only through May - so no Evo and no iPhone 4. It will be interesting to see the next 3 month interval, which will include the iPhone 4, Evo, and the Galaxy S line.

Although like dwell alluded to, the whole market will likely be at least temporarily shaken up by Windows Phone 7 later this year. They've been doing a decent job of keeping the platform smoldering in people's minds, likely leading up to a huge marketing blitz before launch. It will probably sell a lot in the beginning, whether or not that pace keeps up depends on the quality of the final product (and how quickly app devs take to it), which we don't really know yet.

 

[Deeko]

RIM never tried too hard to get mainstream appeal. They area still by far the most widely used phone for power business users. As soon as Android handles messaging and exchange servers as well as blackberries do then you may see that decline, but until then I don't see RIM getting dethroned from the large business market.

A part of why RIM holds so strong in the business market is companies rely on BES - and its unlikely anyone else sets up a dedicated system like that. Android is starting to improve their Exchange support, but its not there yet - maybe next year.

 

[zerocool84]

Well, it looks like Android has been growing mainly at WinMob's expense. The phones are basically cut from the same cloth (HTC). WP7 should take a few points back that were lost as WinMob floundered.

I think Zune vs iPod has proven Microsoft marketing is no match for Apple's.

How many hardware companies markets themselves as much as Apple does. Not many. How many commercials have you seen over the years of any MP3 player as much as the iPod? Also saying Android phones are basically Winmo phones shows you know nothing seeing as the most popular Android phone isn't even an HTC phone.

 

[spaceman]

haters gon hate

 

[Glitchny]

How many hardware companies markets themselves as much as Apple does. Not many. How many commercials have you seen over the years of any MP3 player as much as the iPod? Also saying Android phones are basically Winmo phones shows you know nothing seeing as the most popular Android phone isn't even an HTC phone.

Don't feed the trolls!

 

[dwell]

How many hardware companies markets themselves as much as Apple does. Not many. How many commercials have you seen over the years of any MP3 player as much as the iPod?

Like I said, Apple Marketing > Microsoft Marketing.

Also saying Android phones are basically Winmo phones shows you know nothing seeing as the most popular Android phone isn't even an HTC phone.

This is what I mean:

Looks like an Android phone to me.

 

[tommo123]

yeah, due to sense. afaik the only thing that makes winmob usable.

 

[Deeko]

This is what I mean:

Looks like an Android phone to me.

Sense is more Android-like than TouchFlo 3D, but it still kept the major design elements of TF3D, which has been around for a few years.

Also, like was said, that's an HTC skin. Windows Mobile 6.5's default, not so much...