Researchers measure bias in media

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: desteffy
This is just total BS. Fox news is ridiculous and thats what most people watch. Even CNN is pretty far right compared to the mainstream media of other english nations (BBC, CBC).

I think what's much more important is not where the US media's political inclinations are compared to those of other countries' media but rather where American media's leanings are compared to those of the American people.

 

[desteffy]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: desteffy
This is just total BS. Fox news is ridiculous and thats what most people watch. Even CNN is pretty far right compared to the mainstream media of other english nations (BBC, CBC).

I think what's much more important is not where the US media's political inclinations are compared to those of other countries' media but rather where American media's leanings are compared to those of the American people.

Ok, you may be right.

I find that quite scary actually. I have been going door to door supporting Kerry and I have been suprised by the things I've heard...

elderly people saying they will vote for Bush since they think he will win and they always like to be on the "winning team"

Some guy who got all excited about nukes and was telling me how we should have just nuked iraq and all the afgans form the get go. "thermonuclear weapons are a wonderful thing" [he said in a wisper with a creepy grin]

Some lady who responded to the question "would you consider yourself a democrat or a republican?" with "um... which one is Bush?" [looking kind of confused], "He is republican" "oh ok, then i'm that" [smile and spaced out look on her face]

[and many more stories] Mind you I live in an upper/middle class suburb.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: conjur
Hmmm....the networks are refusing to air commercials for Fahrenheit 9/11

That darn liberal media. :roll:

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/45/deadline-finke.php

arguably farenheit violates several election laws...

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: conjur
Interesting how they picked more centrist newspapers (with a bit of liberalness to them) and only one conservative source (FOX News' Special Report).<BR><BR>Wonder why they didn't consider a sampling from both sides, say, throw in Washington Times or Spewsmax?

because no one reads the washington times or newsmax.

really these things should be weighted by rating/circulation

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Better study that disagrees<BR><BR>

attempting to disprove academnics by posting links to a blatantly biased source? might as well post a link to moveon.org. plus that study is 6 years old. no agenda at fair.org at all.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Better study that disagrees<BR><BR>

attempting to disprove academnics by posting links to a blatantly biased source? might as well post a link to moveon.org. plus that study is 6 years old. no agenda at fair.org at all.

WTF? FAIR is the watchdog of the media. It's in the business to watch and call out bias. You sure put your faith in some college professors rather quick when you think it backs up your cause.

The OP study has too many holes to be calling bias. It's looks only at think tank citations and leaves out several right wing media sources, but includes Drudge? I'd say they had a point to make and set out to make it. Maybe there is a reason this paper is buried and no credible source is talking about it except maybe Rush and Hannity.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: conjur
Interesting how they picked more centrist newspapers (with a bit of liberalness to them) and only one conservative source (FOX News' Special Report).<BR><BR>Wonder why they didn't consider a sampling from both sides, say, throw in Washington Times or Spewsmax?

because no one reads the washington times or newsmax.

really these things should be weighted by rating/circulation

I was unaware that popularity determined accuracy.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: conjur<BR>Interesting how they picked more centrist newspapers (with a bit of liberalness to them) and only one conservative source (FOX News' Special Report).<BR><BR>Wonder why they didn't consider a sampling from both sides, say, throw in Washington Times or Spewsmax?

<BR><BR>It's not even that, it's the fact that it's based upon references to think-tanks.

Amazing that three liberal universities would bias a study against themselves. :roll:

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Czar<BR>a studdy that says drudge and fox is centrist just cant be right

<BR><BR>You're just so far to the left that anything centrist looks right-wing to you.

i guess you'll defend al jazeera as centrist too hah deluded u are

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: conjur<BR>Interesting how they picked more centrist newspapers (with a bit of liberalness to them) and only one conservative source (FOX News' Special Report).<BR><BR>Wonder why they didn't consider a sampling from both sides, say, throw in Washington Times or Spewsmax?

<BR><BR>It's not even that, it's the fact that it's based upon references to think-tanks.

Amazing that three liberal universities would bias a study against themselves. :roll:

What in the blue hell are you talking about? Have you even read the study or are you just forming an opinion based on the snippet from a nearly 3 month old post?

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Better study that disagrees<BR><BR>

attempting to disprove academnics by posting links to a blatantly biased source? might as well post a link to moveon.org. plus that study is 6 years old. no agenda at fair.org at all.

WTF? FAIR is the watchdog of the media. It's in the business to watch and call out bias. You sure put your faith in some college professors rather quick when you think it backs up your cause.

The OP study has too many holes to be calling bias. It's looks only at think tank citations and leaves out several right wing media sources, but includes Drudge? I'd say they had a point to make and set out to make it. Maybe there is a reason this paper is buried and no credible source is talking about it except maybe Rush and Hannity.

Heh heh heh, ElFenix is a master at bombing hopelessly misguided leftists (and the occasional rightwinger) with short, pointed bursts of relevant logic and reason.

FAIR and "Media Matters" both represent media watchdog organizations no different in mission and output than either AIM or MRC. Whenever someone here argues using one of these four orgs, I usually end up laughing my ass off at their outrageously subjective ignorance. The only reason you advocate FAIR is because of your current ideology.

Dr. Andrew Cline at rhetorica.net offers a primer on media/political bias, which is well worth reading.

 

[Kibbo]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Czar<BR>a studdy that says drudge and fox is centrist just cant be right

<BR><BR>You're just so far to the left that anything centrist looks right-wing to you.

Funny, he's probably further to the right than the majority of those that live in Developped countries.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Czar<BR>a studdy that says drudge and fox is centrist just cant be right

<BR><BR>You're just so far to the left that anything centrist looks right-wing to you.

i guess you'll defend al jazeera as centrist too hah deluded u are

Al Jazeera is pretty progressive (or "right-leaning" depending on your viewpoint) by regional standards. When the Al-Aqsa Intifada was in its younger, I was surprised that Al Jazeera mentioned incidents of Palestinian suicide bombing from time to time. By contrast Al Arabiya, Al Hayat, and the other big names all but ignored that they even happened but made front page news of every action the IDF made.

I recall even seeing, at one point, a guest column done by a Jewish reporter with the counterpoint to the intifada :Q

Anyhow, if Fox News is centrist because it's watched by the most people across the US (and correlatively agrees with the political values of the US majority), Al Jazeera is "centrist" in the Muslim world for the same reasons.

[Edit] By the way, what would be the mest method to ascertain a media source's political bias? Number of references in major stories to dem/rep quotes? Op/Ed columns?

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman[Edit] By the way, what would be the mest method to ascertain a media source's political bias? Number of references in major stories to dem/rep quotes? Op/Ed columns?

I don't think there is an accurate way to measure bias simply because it is too subjective.