DivideBYZero
Lifer
- May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Is there something you aren't telling us?
Yeah, I won't have to use a condom when I...
...nah, the "your mom" jokes are getting old.
...just like your mom.
I think you could have gone for a 'Your mom'/'your face' combo there. Missed opportunity.
JoLLyRoGer
Diamond Member
- Aug 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: UNCjigga
To wonder child's credit, he said Christian Right, not Christians in general!
Damn!!! You three sure derailed this topic huh??
UNCJigga....5x Repost!?!
Originally posted by: UNCjigga
To wonder child's credit, he said Christian Right, not Christians in general!
You can say that again
NFS4
No Lifer
- Oct 9, 1999
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"Now if we were to just kill her that wouldn't be very evil now would it? We should pee in her eye socket or something"
"Or we could get someone that has AIDS to pee in her eye socket so she'll die all nice and slow-like"
"Good idea!"
"Noone here has AIDS"
"Awwww!"
"There must be someone it the woods that does"
"Or we could get someone that has AIDS to pee in her eye socket so she'll die all nice and slow-like"
"Good idea!"
"Noone here has AIDS"
"Awwww!"
"There must be someone it the woods that does"
- Nov 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: UNCjigga
To wonder child's credit, he said Christian Right, not Christians in general!
Holy crap sextuple post!! :Q
On topic. I just wonder if/how this will be beneficial to the areas most afflicted. If this is just another mix of drugs that the poor individuals of the world will not be able to get their hands on, it will do little to stop the spread of the disease.
This is great for the developed world, but for those in the third world, where HIV/AIDS is pandemic, I'm not so sure it will help them.
Great to see these advancements though! :thumbsup:
KT
- Oct 28, 1999
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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: UNCjigga
To wonder child's credit, he said Christian Right, not Christians in general!
Holy crap sextuple post!! :Q
On topic. I just wonder if/how this will be beneficial to the areas most afflicted. If this is just another mix of drugs that the poor individuals of the world will not be able to get their hands on, it will do little to stop the spread of the disease.
This is great for the developed world, but for those in the third world, where HIV/AIDS is pandemic, I'm not so sure it will help them.
Great to see these advancements though! :thumbsup:
KT
If memory serves me correct, there's a HUGE controversy in Brazil over this. Brazil basically stole/copied the "cocktail" drugs/formula and is essentially giving it away for free to afflicted people that live there.
It's a huge violation of any patents that the drug manufacturer has on the products. But it's hard to make Brazil look like a bad guy since it's providing a higher quality of live to people with AIDS.
This has been a major issue regarding many types of drug therapies.
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: jmebonner
Good news... Historically, this is the most promising time to be afflicted in this world. From MS to Cancer and now AIDS, technology is giving hope to all of us. (And no, I don't have HIV
Yes, it is a great time to have AIDS.
Yep, that's what I said. Smartass.
- Nov 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: UNCjigga
To wonder child's credit, he said Christian Right, not Christians in general!
Holy crap sextuple post!! :Q
On topic. I just wonder if/how this will be beneficial to the areas most afflicted. If this is just another mix of drugs that the poor individuals of the world will not be able to get their hands on, it will do little to stop the spread of the disease.
This is great for the developed world, but for those in the third world, where HIV/AIDS is pandemic, I'm not so sure it will help them.
Great to see these advancements though! :thumbsup:
KT
If memory serves me correct, there's a HUGE controversy in Brazil over this. Brazil basically stole/copied the "cocktail" drugs/formula and is essentially giving it away for free to afflicted people that live there.
It's a huge violation of any patents that the drug manufacturer has on the products. But it's hard to make Brazil look like a bad guy since it's providing a higher quality of live to people with AIDS.
This has been a major issue regarding many types of drug therapies.
That is a tough situation. I understand the necessity of public companies to maximize profits and shareholder wealth and the costs to research drugs and get them to production are enormous, so they do need to recoup that to stay in business.
At the same time, this is a worldwide public health issue. I mean, we are not talking about a drug to grow more hair on your head or something, this is something that kills many people on a daily basis.
It's a fine line, but there has to be some give from the drug companies in cases like this, in my opinion. Ideally world leaders should step in to give subsidies or some sort of benefit to the drug companies for distributing these types of drugs to the impoverished nations of the world.
KT
child of wonder
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- Aug 31, 2006
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Originally posted by: UNCjigga
To wonder child's credit, he said Christian Right, not Christians in general!
Exactly. The "Christian Right" can include moderate Christians, but is typically identified as more conservative Christians.
So my post was directed at Christian fundamentalists or extreme right wing Christians.
It's not baseless. Extreme right wing Christians have raised the same concerns about the HPV vaccine. I think my question was relevant and valid.
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: UNCjigga
To wonder child's credit, he said Christian Right, not Christians in general!
Holy crap sextuple post!! :Q
On topic. I just wonder if/how this will be beneficial to the areas most afflicted. If this is just another mix of drugs that the poor individuals of the world will not be able to get their hands on, it will do little to stop the spread of the disease.
This is great for the developed world, but for those in the third world, where HIV/AIDS is pandemic, I'm not so sure it will help them.
Great to see these advancements though! :thumbsup:
KT
If memory serves me correct, there's a HUGE controversy in Brazil over this. Brazil basically stole/copied the "cocktail" drugs/formula and is essentially giving it away for free to afflicted people that live there.
It's a huge violation of any patents that the drug manufacturer has on the products. But it's hard to make Brazil look like a bad guy since it's providing a higher quality of live to people with AIDS.
This has been a major issue regarding many types of drug therapies.
That is a tough situation. I understand the necessity of public companies to maximize profits and shareholder wealth and the costs to research drugs and get them to production are enormous, so they do need to recoup that to stay in business.
At the same time, this is a worldwide public health issue. I mean, we are not talking about a drug to grow more hair on your head or something, this is something that kills many people on a daily basis.
It's a fine line, but there has to be some give from the drug companies in cases like this, in my opinion. Ideally world leaders should step in to give subsidies or some sort of benefit to the drug companies for distributing these types of drugs to the impoverished nations of the world.
KT
I agree, the governments of the world should all chip in and purchase the patent of the drug(s) and allow other pharmaceutical companies to make cheap generics. However, I believe that the price should include a huge profit for the maker. It might not sound "humane" but it takes a huge amount of resources to research, develop, test, obtain approval and market a new drug. The absolute last thing we want to do is to set a precedent that a drug that could potentially save millions of lives will not be profitable. Pharmaceutical companies are no different than any other company, their goal is to turn a profit. If great drugs like this are not profitable, or just barely profitable, the pharmaceutical companies will simply devote the majority of their resources to other more profitable drugs.
On the other hand, we can split the cost between a dozen or more countries to reduce the financial burden while making it very profitable for pharmaceutical companies to make drugs like this.
If we do nothing I can almost guarantee that dozens of other countries will do the same thing as Brazil and in reality, it is understandable. Especially for the extremely poor countries that HIV has hit the hardest. If they can't afford the drugs for their people who can really blame them for ripping it off in order to save millions of lives? If that goes on to the point that the company doesn't turn a profit on the drug then how many similar drugs would you expect them to pursue?
Humanely, there should be some give from the drug companies. Realistically, we should encourage the development and production of drugs like this. The absolute best way to encourage their development is to ensure the company makes an excellent profit.
Well my bad, I thought you just meant conservative Christians. But that statement seems about as useful as saying that extremist Muslims have suicidal tendencies. The point being that anything "extreme" like you are saying is already considered wrong, and therefore bringing it up appears to be a troll's red herring.
child of wonder
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- Aug 31, 2006
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I happen to know Christians who would consider themselves moderates that still think the HPV vaccine is a bad idea or object to it being mandatory on religious/moral grounds.
They really believe that giving a girl an HPV vaccine will push her towards promiscuity.
I'm curious if they or anyone reading this would feel the same about this treatment if it would stop the spread of HIV.
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