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brigden

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: brigden

You can spot people who know how to dress from those that buy and wear trendy clothes. Class and style and bred, not bought.

If you think you have to wear trendy clothes to have class, then you have none.

I never made that assertion.
 

oogabooga

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so apparently the only requirement is a million bucks, a shipping method, and an ebay account... thread done? :)

All i know is i wouldn't buy a ferrari just cause i'm not anywhere near that kind of enthusiast, though i know individuals who would/could actually drive the ferrari the way it was meant to be driven. They would be canidates imo to drive/own a ferrari, me? i'd just be happy with a turbo in my car ;)
 

brxndxn

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Screw Ferrari...

I could have 3 Corvettes (one could be completely upgraded to beat an Enzo in every way), a Viper, a few SUVs, and a nice pickup for the price of the Ferrari.

From all the reviews I've been seeing, Ferrari is an arrogant company riding on a name. The Corvettes and Vipers and Porsches are coming closer to topping the Ferraris in performance, max speed, RELIABILITY, acceleration, etc.. Ferrari has been making owners sign agreements that would disallow review magazines to post performance numbers on them. IMO, Ferrari can go fvck themselves.

Ferrari is like Intel in the 1ghz race... Intel claims it was the first, but you could only buy AMD 1ghz processors at the time. Intel is still riding on a name even though AMD has been faster for a while.
 

RiDE

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
Screw Ferrari...

I could have 3 Corvettes (one could be completely upgraded to beat an Enzo in every way), a Viper, a few SUVs, and a nice pickup for the price of the Ferrari.

From all the reviews I've been seeing, Ferrari is an arrogant company riding on a name. The Corvettes and Vipers and Porsches are coming closer to topping the Ferraris in performance, max speed, RELIABILITY, acceleration, etc.. Ferrari has been making owners sign agreements that would disallow review magazines to post performance numbers on them. IMO, Ferrari can go fvck themselves.

Ferrari is like Intel in the 1ghz race... Intel claims it was the first, but you could only buy AMD 1ghz processors at the time. Intel is still riding on a name even though AMD has been faster for a while.

Like Ferrari and the rest of the world would care that you would buy 3 Corvettes instead.

Here's a :cookie: for you.

EDIT: I love how a lot of people here are "Fsck this I wouldn't buy it," but when you think about it they don't even have the money to buy one. :thumbsup:
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: johnjbruin
This is the reason I am beginning to hate ferraris - they are arrogant pr1cks.

If I have the money - then it will be porsche carerra GT or Lambo anyway - the enzo looks like a$$.

Arrogant pricks? They're trying to limit the car to people that will actually appreciate it... people that actually care about the company's racing history.

i woule like you to explain something

you say "
Arrogant pricks? They're trying to limit the car to people that will actually appreciate it... people that actually care about the company's racing history"

however ive known a good numper of peopel with Ferraris and they just have them sitting in a show room and NEVER DRIVE THEM

how is NEVER DRIVING a car appreciating it and its companys raceing history? thoes that do drive them drive them mabye 10 times a year

such a waste of money

and whoever said " I love how a lot of people here are "Fsck this I wouldn't buy it," but when you think about it they don't even have the money to buy one"

i personally might not have the cash but have good friends that do and they also say FUSK them, and get something else, mainily because you CANT drive a ferrari every day because it will fall apart on you
 

RiDE

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: johnjbruin
This is the reason I am beginning to hate ferraris - they are arrogant pr1cks.

If I have the money - then it will be porsche carerra GT or Lambo anyway - the enzo looks like a$$.

Arrogant pricks? They're trying to limit the car to people that will actually appreciate it... people that actually care about the company's racing history.


and whoever said " I love how a lot of people here are "Fsck this I wouldn't buy it," but when you think about it they don't even have the money to buy one"

i personally might not have the cash but have good friends that do and they also say FUSK them, and get something else, mainily because you CANT drive a ferrari every day because it will fall apart on you

Well those people I would actually listen to.

But the people here who drive cars that the normal joe drives but bitches so much about oh fsck Ferrari this I would never buy them now, you guys are funny.
 

johnjbruin

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Originally posted by: RiDE
Originally posted by: johnjbruin
This is the reason I am beginning to hate ferraris - they are arrogant pr1cks.

If I have the money - then it will be porsche carerra GT or Lambo anyway - the enzo looks like a$$.

That's funny because here's one of those arrogant pricks.

:roll:
 

johnjbruin

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To clarify my post from earlier - I am not saying ferrari as a car is bad - quite the contrary(enzo being the exception) - just the company policies make them come off as elitists.
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: johnjbruin
This is the reason I am beginning to hate ferraris - they are arrogant pr1cks.

If I have the money - then it will be porsche carerra GT or Lambo anyway - the enzo looks like a$$.

Arrogant pricks? They're trying to limit the car to people that will actually appreciate it... people that actually care about the company's racing history.

i woule like you to explain something

you say "
Arrogant pricks? They're trying to limit the car to people that will actually appreciate it... people that actually care about the company's racing history"

however ive known a good numper of peopel with Ferraris and they just have them sitting in a show room and NEVER DRIVE THEM

how is NEVER DRIVING a car appreciating it and its companys raceing history? thoes that do drive them drive them mabye 10 times a year

such a waste of money

and whoever said " I love how a lot of people here are "Fsck this I wouldn't buy it," but when you think about it they don't even have the money to buy one"

i personally might not have the cash but have good friends that do and they also say FUSK them, and get something else, mainily because you CANT drive a ferrari every day because it will fall apart on you

z0mb13 touched on it earlier... i suppose the company wants you to have an emotional connection with the car. having it sit there is a lot better than buying one and selling it later becausey you got bored of it... like you would a toy. that devalues the car and the company IMHO. they just don't want someone with money... they want someone who feels passionately about it i guess. most f1 drivers would die to drive for ferrari just because of their myth or whatever they call it... no matter how much the team is sucking back then. I have an F40 book somewhere and IIRC... they interviewed an employee and he said he would even work at the assembly line for free as long as he gets to build Ferraris everyday. :confused:

If you're looking for a real enthusiasts car that enthusiasts actually drive I suppose you can look no further than Porsche. The amount of privateer teams running 911 GT2s and GT3s in international racing is just staggering. Their racing history is just as impressive as Ferraris. Plus they don't attract the snobs who cant drive for shiet like Ferrari and Lamborghini do. ;)
 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
Screw Ferrari...

I could have 3 Corvettes (one could be completely upgraded to beat an Enzo in every way), a Viper, a few SUVs, and a nice pickup for the price of the Ferrari.

From all the reviews I've been seeing, Ferrari is an arrogant company riding on a name. The Corvettes and Vipers and Porsches are coming closer to topping the Ferraris in performance, max speed, RELIABILITY, acceleration, etc.. Ferrari has been making owners sign agreements that would disallow review magazines to post performance numbers on them. IMO, Ferrari can go fvck themselves.

Ferrari is like Intel in the 1ghz race... Intel claims it was the first, but you could only buy AMD 1ghz processors at the time. Intel is still riding on a name even though AMD has been faster for a while.

ROFL u actually think u can mod a corvette to beat an enzo in every way? oh wow this is too funny
 

Koing

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It is called 'heritage' bR.

I'd get a Ferrari if I had the money :p

Sure you can get other cars to go faster but to beat it on a circuit over different circuits would be harder imo. But anyway cars at the top are NOT WORTH the performance and money you spend on them typcially. But this is true of any high end stuff. Is it even 12% faster then a much cheaper sports car? Hell no and with the amount it costs it is just silly.

But when you can have cars that cost a dam nice house in most people's areas then you probably don't care too much. And you will have a fleet of cars :p

Koing
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: Koing
It is called 'heritage' bR.

I'd get a Ferrari if I had the money :p

Sure you can get other cars to go faster but to beat it on a circuit over different circuits would be harder imo. But anyway cars at the top are NOT WORTH the performance and money you spend on them typcially. But this is true of any high end stuff. Is it even 12% faster then a much cheaper sports car? Hell no and with the amount it costs it is just silly.

But when you can have cars that cost a dam nice house in most people's areas then you probably don't care too much. And you will have a fleet of cars :p

Koing

I've noticed that 'heritage' doesn't mean squat around here... :confused:

Call me stupid if you will but if I were to buy a car over $100k that 'racing history' is something i'd expect from a car costing that much. :D

What other company can say they build race cars first and build road cars later just to fund their racing program. :p
 

yllus

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You guys make it sound like being an elitist is a bad thing.

Prancing horse > *
 

Koing

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Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: Koing
It is called 'heritage' bR.

I'd get a Ferrari if I had the money :p

Sure you can get other cars to go faster but to beat it on a circuit over different circuits would be harder imo. But anyway cars at the top are NOT WORTH the performance and money you spend on them typcially. But this is true of any high end stuff. Is it even 12% faster then a much cheaper sports car? Hell no and with the amount it costs it is just silly.

But when you can have cars that cost a dam nice house in most people's areas then you probably don't care too much. And you will have a fleet of cars :p

Koing

I've noticed that 'heritage' doesn't mean squat around here... :confused:

Call me stupid if you will but if I were to buy a car over $100k that 'racing history' is something i'd expect from a car costing that much. :D

What other company can say they build race cars first and build road cars later just to fund their racing program. :p

True true ture :D

And dude the Enzo cost well over $100k :p

I've always dreamed of owning an F40 and a Enzo and a bunch of other cars :p. Love the F40 shape.

Koing


 

CrazyDe1

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Originally posted by: johnjbruin
To clarify my post from earlier - I am not saying ferrari as a car is bad - quite the contrary(enzo being the exception) - just the company policies make them come off as elitists.

The point is they're trying to be elitist. They could care if you or anyone else says you won't buy from them. The rich people who can afford them that want to buy them can't. If they weren't elitist they would make more than 500. It makes it so much more prestigious to be part of the club.
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: Koing
It is called 'heritage' bR.

I'd get a Ferrari if I had the money :p

Sure you can get other cars to go faster but to beat it on a circuit over different circuits would be harder imo. But anyway cars at the top are NOT WORTH the performance and money you spend on them typcially. But this is true of any high end stuff. Is it even 12% faster then a much cheaper sports car? Hell no and with the amount it costs it is just silly.

But when you can have cars that cost a dam nice house in most people's areas then you probably don't care too much. And you will have a fleet of cars :p

Koing

I've noticed that 'heritage' doesn't mean squat around here... :confused:

Call me stupid if you will but if I were to buy a car over $100k that 'racing history' is something i'd expect from a car costing that much. :D

What other company can say they build race cars first and build road cars later just to fund their racing program. :p

True true ture :D

And dude the Enzo cost well over $100k :p

I've always dreamed of owning an F40 and a Enzo and a bunch of other cars :p. Love the F40 shape.

Koing

Well yeah :p... but if i were to pay $100k+ for any car... there better be something special about it.

An F40 and a 360CS... are just plain raw... :heart:

 

TechnoKid

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Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Screw Ferrari...

I could have 3 Corvettes (one could be completely upgraded to beat an Enzo in every way), a Viper, a few SUVs, and a nice pickup for the price of the Ferrari.

From all the reviews I've been seeing, Ferrari is an arrogant company riding on a name. The Corvettes and Vipers and Porsches are coming closer to topping the Ferraris in performance, max speed, RELIABILITY, acceleration, etc.. Ferrari has been making owners sign agreements that would disallow review magazines to post performance numbers on them. IMO, Ferrari can go fvck themselves.

Ferrari is like Intel in the 1ghz race... Intel claims it was the first, but you could only buy AMD 1ghz processors at the time. Intel is still riding on a name even though AMD has been faster for a while.

ROFL u actually think u can mod a corvette to beat an enzo in every way? oh wow this is too funny

It'd take too much work imo. A complete reegineering of the engine, drivetrain, and chassis and suspension setup to make a Corvette equal or close to and Enzo. The Enzo is a purpose built, basically street legal, formula racing car. The corvette is a high performing street car, which also happens to be very capable on the track.

Take for example the Corvette C5-R, a corvette with tip-top performance (supplemented next season with the C6-R). It doesn't come close to the performance of even the prototype class cars in the ALMS and Le Mans series (prototpye class cars are basically open wheel formula cars with a carbon fibre shell). Even starting with a C6-R (which you can buy from Pratt Racing, you need a competition license, just like you do for a dodge viper competition coupe) would take a lot more work to make equal to the Enzo.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: brigden
Only trash covet a Ferrari.

why...

Modern Ferraris are synonoumous with an individual acquiring wealth quickly. You can't buy class.

How is that different from buying expensive trendy clothes. In the end you're just trash w/ matching belt and shoes

You can spot people who know how to dress from those that buy and wear trendy clothes. Class and style and bred, not bought.

Exactly. That's why Ferrari doesn't allow the Enzo to be bought. It must be earned through loyalty to Ferrari racing heritage. Something you don't understand?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: brigden
Only trash covet a Ferrari.

why...

Modern Ferraris are synonoumous with an individual acquiring wealth quickly. You can't buy class.

Ah, the supposed snobbery of the old rich. Most of the new rich are exponentially wealthier than the old rich, so the old rich try a "class" or prototypical arrogance approach when dealing with the new rich. The new rich don't care about that; they've got more money!
 

Turkish

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Lingelfelter Corvette TT can beat the Ferrari Enzo in 1/4 mile and 0-62 mph but do you really want a car that requires an oil change every 100 miles, a clutch change every 250 miles, transmission change every 500 miles, etc. etc.

There's no way I'd pick a Corvette over Enzo.

Enzo is something only %0.0000001 of people on this planet can own. I'd like to be one of them.
 

luvya

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Why did I read through this thread? I will never be able to afford any cars mentioned here.
 

Gurck

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Found this, was a good read.

Originally posted by: RiDE
EDIT: I love how a lot of people here are "Fsck this I wouldn't buy it," but when you think about it they don't even have the money to buy one. :thumbsup:

Reaction to jealosy seems to be innate, as people across different cultures behave pretty much the same when faced with it... Effort is put forth to denigrate the object(s) of jealosy, often in groups, although the internet seems to be bringing out the lone dipshit in many people as opposed to the safety in numbers tactic used in person. You always see this with wealth and power.

All men are not created equal, anyone can see that. This is just one aspect of how those not at the top tend to deal with this fact - religion is another good example, and probably one where the connection can be viewed more objectively by most ATOTers, and so should be more apparent ;) Lest anyone think I'm claiming wealth, I'm probably on par with the average here or a bit lower; I just can't kid myself.

Originally posted by: brigden
Only trash covet a Ferrari.

Modern Ferraris are synonoumous with an individual acquiring wealth quickly. You can't buy class.

You can spot people who know how to dress from those that buy and wear trendy clothes. Class and style and bred, not bought.

Classy people tend to be a bit more diplomatic than you are much of the time (this thread being but one example), but then class isn't all it's cracked up to be :D
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: The Boss
Lingelfelter Corvette TT can beat the Ferrari Enzo in 1/4 mile and 0-62 mph but do you really want a car that requires an oil change every 100 miles, a clutch change every 250 miles, transmission change every 500 miles, etc. etc.

There's no way I'd pick a Corvette over Enzo.

Enzo is something only %0.0000001 of people on this planet can own. I'd like to be one of them.

The Enzo would require more maintenance, and that maintenance would be more costly. Remember, no Ferrari is intended to be driven more than 1000 miles per year.