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If you want to be in IT, you definitely need some post secondary education. The fact is, there are so many people in IT with degrees struggling to find work right now that if you don't have one your resume will always go to the bottom of the pile.

I would seriously consider doing some trade skill like electrician/plumber instead though. These days kids are all told that they need to go to university to be worth a damn, and as a result the market is flooded with people with Bachelors degrees looking for those kinds of jobs, while the demand for trades people just keeps going up, and so does the pay.
 
AreaCode707 said:
Definitely true. My dad is one quarter short of a bachelors' degree but has LOADS of great work experience. He had a hell of a time finding work when he moved to Seattle; had lots of great interviews but several places turned him down because of their inflexible education rule. He wound up working for MS and does great there, currently a senior manager and continuing to be a rising star, but he's had to deal with some MS/PhD folks there who are extremely snobby about working with a lowly high school education. Nevermind 20 years in his field and a fabulous track record...

Life is slightly more certain and often a bit easier with an education.
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I agree with your last sentence. I feel like I won the lottery with how my life turned out, but that's not typical. I however wish I did finish it out at times so that I could work on an advanced degree in my spare time.
 
AreaCode707 said:
Gonna take me up yet on my offer to tell me what you know and can do in trade for a referral?
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No. Because once again, I'll tell you I don't have those skills yet.

If anybody actually bothered to read the OP and the title, I asked for the requirements, meaning what do I need to know, IE what do I need to LEARN to be accepted into this field? I also asked is schooling needed- IE would it teach me a lot more (in quicker time) than I could learn on my own and look better. I didn't ask to be lectured by a bunch of people on my laziness, I merely asked for requirements, and 98% of posts in this thread have said nothing of the sort. So I haven't given this thread any sort of thought at all.
 
Tristicus said:
No. Because once again, I'll tell you I don't have those skills yet.

If anybody actually bothered to read the OP and the title, I asked for the requirements, meaning what do I need to know, IE what do I need to LEARN to be accepted into this field? I also asked is schooling needed- IE would it teach me a lot more (in quicker time) than I could learn on my own and look better. I didn't ask to be lectured by a bunch of people on my laziness, I merely asked for requirements, and 98% of posts in this thread have said nothing of the sort. So I haven't given this thread any sort of thought at all.
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what does IT mean to you???
 
Tristicus said:
No. Because once again, I'll tell you I don't have those skills yet.

If anybody actually bothered to read the OP and the title, I asked for the requirements, meaning what do I need to know, IE what do I need to LEARN to be accepted into this field? I also asked is schooling needed- IE would it teach me a lot more (in quicker time) than I could learn on my own and look better. I didn't ask to be lectured by a bunch of people on my laziness, I merely asked for requirements, and 98% of posts in this thread have said nothing of the sort. So I haven't given this thread any sort of thought at all.
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Y'know, it's too bad they don't have some type of organization or institution where you can go, maybe with some government subsidies, to find out what you need to know, perhaps advised by some sort of counselor or something similar, and then perhaps that organization could provide training on those requirements, maybe in a classroom setting. And maybe it would be nifty if they somehow certified you, gave you some official documentation that's universally recognized so that other people can tell that you've gained that expertise...

Dude, you want us to tell you that the best idea in your life is to self-educate to a college level and companies will be glad to have you. 98% of the people in this thread have told you the TRUTH - that you need to get thee to an institution of higher learnin' if you want to go into IT.

The reason you can't get a nice short bulleted list of "requirements" to go into IT is that there are literally thousands of jobs and skills and they mix and match in millions of ways. We are not your college adviser and we did, with the best will in the world, tell you that THAT'S what you need right now. If you've got an attitude problem because the grown-up world takes work and we're honest about that, then you're just prolonging the day when you realize it for yourself. Sorry for that, because it's going to hurt when it hits you.
 
Tristicus said:
No.
What I asked was what are the requirements, IE....as I typed above. Thanks.
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You know, I've posted a lot of fairly helpful info in this thread and since you apparently feel that the posters who are helping you are "lecturing" you, let me put it another way.

Stop being a lazy fvck trying to make your life decisions based on information from the internet and go make a free appointment with a college counselor and ask THEM what skills you need to get an IT job. It's kinda their business to know that. Whether you get those skills at a college or not is up to you but at least use the resources you have to figure out what your options are.

You're not getting answers about requirements for an "IT" job because you're not even educated enough to know that question is completely utterly and entirely useless. That's like asking what skills you need to get a job at a hospital. WHICH job? Janitor? Doctor? Nurse? Administrator? TOTALLY different skill sets.
 
Triscus - visit one of your local colleges (or go to their website), and look at the course of study for Computer Science, Computer Information Systems, and Management Information Systems degrees. They probably even offer a description of the types of jobs that those degrees are geared to.

You could probably even go to the college bookstore and look at what textbooks they are using for each class (although, probably 75% of the learning I did in college was not out of the textbook....). You could buy the books and study on your own instead of paying tuition...but I think you would end up with 10-20% of the retention and understanding that a student has.
 
Sadly, most IT job postings on monster.com right now require a four year degree AND 5 years experience in the technology field.

Keep in mind that many of the entry level help desk and code monkey jobs are being outsourced overseas, making IT work all that tougher to find for new grads in this crappy economy.

That said, if you have 5 years experience in a hot skill like VMWare or security auditing, you'll have headhunters harassing you every week no matter how bad the economy gets.
 
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