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Repubs win 2 house seats, Dems lose Weiner

What has to be even more stinging is the fact that Bob Turner [R-rep] is a retired cable TV exec with no public service experience, beating out a 20+ year career New York state politician in David Weprin [D-rep].

This can only be seen as a strong rebuke of Obama's policies. Look for Democrats up for re-election in 2012 to distance themselves from him even more as they fight for their political lives. Obama's stimulus II (aka jobs bill) could be doomed now, as everything from Obama is being seen as toxic.
 
xenolith said:
What has to be even more stinging is the fact that Bob Turner [R-rep] is a retired cable TV exec with no public service experience, beating out a 20+ year career New York state politician in David Weprin [D-rep].
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I can only hope that this isn't the "revolving door" type of politician. I can see him getting in with the FCC to effect policies which benefit wireline monopolies and hurt everyone else. No one ever fully cuts ties with their old jobs, particularly not execs.

Time will tell.
 
I'm sure the DNC wants to just wash this away as an isolated incident, while the R's want to portray it as a general referendum on the president. I lean more towards the former than the latter: it was more a matter of local demographics than anything else. When a big portion of the voters is Jewish and perceive Obama as not supporting Israel enough (with an approval rating of 13 or so among that group), it seems the R's just did well linking Obama with Weprin, but it doesn't say much about Obama in a general election.

The Nevada seat is generally R anyway, so no surprise there.

I don't think this is a major concern to the D's in terms of the election next year. Now the bad daily economic news on the other hand......
 
Double Trouble said:
I'm sure the DNC wants to just wash this away as an isolated incident, while the R's want to portray it as a general referendum on the president. I lean more towards the former than the latter: it was more a matter of local demographics than anything else. When a big portion of the voters is Jewish and perceive Obama as not supporting Israel enough (with an approval rating of 13 or so among that group), it seems the R's just did well linking Obama with Weprin, but it doesn't say much about Obama in a general election.

The Nevada seat is generally R anyway, so no surprise there.

I don't think this is a major concern to the D's in terms of the election next year. Now the bad daily economic news on the other hand......
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Except the fact that the Democrat was Jewish and the Republican was Roman Catholic.
 
There was a very low turn out in the NY-9 election. For the Republicans the turn out was about what it was in 2010, the last general election. For the Democrats it was about 40% of what turned out in 2010. That says what will happen in 2012. Democrats will stay home.

It's interesting that in the NV-2 race, although it was a Republican district to begin with, the turn out was greater than the turn out of the NY-9 in the general election of 2010. I guess Republicans are more charged up than Democrats. That's not difficult to understand, is it?
 
NY-9 was a funny race... an orthodox jew lost support from orthodox jews because of Obama's perceived lack of support for Israel.

I also heard that Dems outspent Reps by 10:1 in the race.
 
loki8481 said:
NY-9 was a funny race... an orthodox jew lost support from orthodox jews because of Obama's perceived lack of support for Israel.

I also heard that Dems outspent Reps by 10:1 in the race.
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If your spending info turns out correct, it looks like Obama will need a lot more than that $1 billion he is trying to raise for his re-election.
 
there was also his divorce issues.

Justice Bruce Wright described Weprin as “heedless” of the welfare of his son, who was not yet two, and behaving in a manner that “shocks the conscience.” The judge also describes him “extremely temperamental with a short fuse” – a description backed by his “almost impossible to control” in the court-room. And the ruling describes Weprin’s behavior both as careless – he allegedly left the child with a doorman – and “obsessive”: Weprin allegedly “rushed into the toilet with the child and refused to allow [his ex-wife Roselyn] in or to come out, and [the ex-wife] was compelled to call the police before [Weprin] would exit, although the bathroom was said to be cold.”
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...s_alleged.html
 
monovillage said:
It looks like the Republicans have won 2 special elections. One was a pretty reliable Republican district, but the other has been a Democrat stronghold for over 80 years. The Dems lost Weiner's seat which is pretty surprising. I thought the whole debt thing was going to be the death knell for Republicans?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...k-house-seat/2011/09/13/gIQAoos5QK_print.html
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I will reply the way the Repugs did when a Dem took NY district 26...so what???
 
Weiner's position is set to disappear in a few months permanently. Only a Republican is moran enough to take a position with no future whatsoever.
 
amdhunter said:
Weiner's position is set to disappear in a few months permanently. Only a Republican is moran enough to take a position with no future whatsoever.
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LOL, that explains why the dims outspent the R's 10:1 and sank a bunch of money in an attempt to retain that seat. :biggrin::biggrin:
 
If the D Party has half a desire at maintaining the Executive Branch in 2012 then it would make sure that Obama runs for the nomination opposed.

I would personally love to see Hillary resign as SecState and throw her hat into the race.
 
The grass is always greener...

Looking to any one political party for economic salvation or, alternatively, to demonstrate your disgust with the other party is delusional.

If you can't tell that the grass on both sides is brown and dead, you're an idiot.
 
a777pilot said:
If your spending info turns out correct, it looks like Obama will need a lot more than that $1 billion he is trying to raise for his re-election.
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No worries there. Obama will find every excuse he can to charge the taxpayers for his 'campaign' trips.

Serious question - win or lose, what happens to Obama's unspent campaign money? Who gets it?
 
amdhunter said:
Weiner's position is set to disappear in a few months permanently. Only a Republican is moran enough to take a position with no future whatsoever.
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WHIIIIZZZZ! That's the sound of the whole point of this discussion going right over your head.

PokerGuy said:
LOL, that explains why the dims outspent the R's 10:1 and sank a bunch of money in an attempt to retain that seat. :biggrin::biggrin:
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WHAAAPPPP! That's the sound of the whole point of this discussion coming around and hitting you upside your head.
 
Hacp said:
Except the fact that the Democrat was Jewish and the Republican was Roman Catholic.
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So what? If he doesn't fully support Israel and zionism he's a bad Jew, no better than the Jews that helped the Nazis locate and imprison other Jews during world war II.
 
This thread is so full of liberal spin I'm about to puke. If you said the reason that the R's won was because the sky is blue, you would still have a liberal trying to tell you the sky isn't blue. Its gonna be a fun fun ride to 2012.
 
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