Republicans unveil new ObamaCare replacement plan

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cbrunny

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Neither Democrat nor Republican party will allow change. We're an oligarchy and changing the Constitution can't happen without their approval. The Democrats want to fight the Republicans and vice versa. Since I have to live with the foolishness of others without my consent I certainly can and will complain. Since you couldn't vote here to elect Cheney, or a Democrat who doesn't know the first thing for that matter you have no business telling me to accept something from those idiots.

To quote Mr Horse, "No sir, I didn't like it".

So much outrage that your only option is complacency? For a country that was founded from winning a revolutionary war, you sure are a bunch of whiners.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I as well. ACA has its problems but also addresses a number of things that were broken or needed to be addressed such as preexisting conditions.

Many things the ACA did are needed, but the ACA itself isn't the right thing. Imagine a car which has a tire running low, an exhaust system, an oil leak, needs new brakes and rotors, etc. You address this by filling your tire with air. Well it did need air, but there are bits falling off and nothing is really fixed at all. The car is not rusted and it's not going to fall apart, but it needs some serious things done to make it run as it should. That's not what the ACA does. We need serious apolitical reform done intelligently, not by some numbskull which requires onerous paperwork or punish practitioners who treat seriously ill or unhealthy people. Everyone is different and everyone has different needs at different times and to legislate a one size fits all system is the height of stupidity.
 

cbrunny

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I dunno man. I'm just saying the way you tell it, it sounds like you're extremely oppressed by the govt. If I were you, I'd move to Canada.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I dunno man. I'm just saying the way you tell it, it sounds like you're extremely oppressed by the govt. If I were you, I'd move to Canada.

I was considering New Zealand. :p

Our problem is that we were among the first representative democracy in modern times, and we didn't know enough to adopt a parliamentary system, or prohibit the emergence of two parties who are unassailable in practice. We don't have proportional representation, or "no confidence" votes, and those are grievous errors IMO. Consequently any candidate who hopes for a chance needs the blessing of one of the Big Two, and neither one is going to permit changes which effectively reduce their power. Theoretically it could happen, but then Rob Ford could have been set up and be blackmailed to falsely admit to drug use. Hey, it's theoretically possible.
 

cbrunny

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I was considering New Zealand. :p

Our problem is that we were among the first representative democracy in modern times, and we didn't know enough to adopt a parliamentary system, or prohibit the emergence of two parties who are unassailable in practice. We don't have proportional representation, or "no confidence" votes, and those are grievous errors IMO. Consequently any candidate who hopes for a chance needs the blessing of one of the Big Two, and neither one is going to permit changes which effectively reduce their power. Theoretically it could happen, but then Rob Ford could have been set up and be blackmailed to falsely admit to drug use. Hey, it's theoretically possible.

lol, Canada is calling you, pal.