Republicans Thwart Union in Tennesse

[LTC8K6]

Lets see if I got this correct, the Republicans stuck their nose into the company's business and potentially cost their state another car plant.

No, that's not correct.

There are plenty of non-union auto plants in the US. A union is not necessary for a successful auto plant.

A works council can be formed without the UAW if VW wants one at the plant.

The problem is that VW thinks the UAW is like the unions in Germany...

They have forgotten their UAW experience from earlier at Westmoreland.

 

[bshole]

Nope. The workers decided and someone wrote and article accusing Republicans of sticking their nose in. Someone (you) also took that conclusion and ran with it, making this forum post.

They supported what their constituency supported. Way to go, Republicans.

Wrong, wrong, wrong!! Republicans made threats against the company and the workers. Read the thread.

 

[bshole]

No, that's not correct.

There are plenty of non-union auto plants in the US. A union is not necessary for a successful auto plant.

A works council can be formed without the UAW if VW wants one at the plant.

The problem is that VW thinks the UAW is like the unions in Germany...

They have forgotten their UAW experience from earlier at Westmoreland.

So Republicans are not after all for "free enterprise". They know better than a successful auto company and interfere with their operations creating ill-will with the management (potentially costing their state another auto plant).

 

[CZroe]

Wrong, wrong, wrong!! Republicans made threats against the company and the workers. Read the thread.

I did. He made comments that the person the reporter talked to was not the one making the decision. You decided that it meant that some Republican was pulling the strings when all it meant was that the person they talked to has no idea what market forces are affecting the real decision makers. It fits the narrative of "Republicans did it!" so you took it and ran with it. The fact is, the people rejected it and these Republicans were elected by those same people. The people voted directly against it and their representatives also fought it. It's the way things SHOULD work, but the implication is that "Republicans did it!" as if theirs was not the will of the people. Let me guess: Corporations? Rich guys? Personal investments? Which were YOU implying? A combination?

"There is no connection between our Chattanooga employees' decision about whether to be represented by a union and the decision about where to build a new product for the U.S. market"
Guess what? The workers decided against it. The politician was making the point that if they decided for it then very real economic forces could send it to Mexico DESPITE what the local representative was saying. It really is that simple and you really are that easy to manipulate.

 

[dmcowen674]

This is so awesome.

Especially the part where they say the South and Republicans have screwed themselves. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:


2-20-2014

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/20/vw-union-workers_n_4820585.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

Turns Out Anti-Union Volkswagen Workers May Have Screwed Themselves And The South



Volkswagen employees may have made a huge mistake when they rejected union membership on Friday.


Employees at VW's Chattanooga plant voted against representation by United Auto Workers, leaving the factory as the only Volkswagen plant worldwide without a formal mechanism for workers' representation.

The German "co-determination" model mandates works councils, which connect employees to management, at all large German companies.

Following the union vote, the head of Volkswagen's works council told German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung that the automaker would hesitate to expand in the U.S. South.

Osterloh's characterization of the union vote as jeopardizing potential growth at the Tennessee plant, and across the South, contrasts with what Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) was saying before the balloting. Corker suggested a vote in favor of unionization would hinder VW's growth.

Osterloh blamed conservative lawmakers for possibly influencing the vote by misleading Volkswagen employees.


"The conservatives stirred up massive, anti-union sentiments," Osterloh said. "It's possible that the conclusion will be drawn that this interference amounted to unfair labor practice."

 

[MagickMan]

Again, McOwned is too stupid to see that has already been posted, and debated, in this very thread. I fervently believe there's not a more ignorant person on this forum.

 

[cubby1223]

It's interesting how much outsiders want to get in and set the definition of what happened, rather than let things play out and see what naturally happens.

 

[dmcowen674]

Again, McOwned is too stupid to see that has already been posted, and debated, in this very thread. I fervently believe there's not a more ignorant person on this forum.

Yet you watch and post behind every one of my posts.

Hmmmm makes you wonder who the ignorant one is.

 

[Pulsar]

Yet you watch and post behind every one of my posts.

Hmmmm makes you wonder who the ignorant one is.

.... I know I'm stupid but what does that make you?

I'm not sure I'd use that argument mcowned.

 

[rudder]

Wrong, wrong, wrong!! Republicans made threats against the company and the workers. Read the thread.

Before you bash the republicans I suggest you get a better understanding of the political backstory. The push for the UAW to come into the Chattanooga plant is coming from a VW board member is is in charge of VW's works councils in Germany. Bernd Osterloh is a major player in Germany's largest labor union IG Metall. There is no doubt this guy is concerned about the loss of manufacturing jobs in Germany to cheaper U.S. labor. He is looking out for German workers.

The republicans know if UAW comes in and increases operating costs the Passat will not be price competitive with the Accord and Malibu for instance. This will doom the plant. As I said earlier the taxpayers of Tennessee have a lot invested in this plant and the state needs it to stay open.

People like you refuse to understand that VW opened this plant because at the cost of labor they expected, VW could shave thousands off the price of the Passat. These jobs could have already easily gone to Mexico.

 

[MagickMan]

Yet you watch and post behind every one of my posts.

Hmmmm makes you wonder who the ignorant one is.

Pointing out your stupidity is a lot of fun, how you keep doing the same moronic things, over and over, is hilarious. Also, I have to admit that I'm morbidly curious with how far you'll bury yourself in shit before you drown in it. :\