Republicans slash Sandy aid bill

dmcowen674

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12-20-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/senate-republicans-aim-cut-sandy-aid-bill-down-021401916.html

Senate Republicans aim to cut Sandy aid bill down to $24 billion

U.S. Senate Republicans sought to slash a $60.4 billion aid bill to cover reconstruction after Superstorm Sandy, proposing on Wednesday to fund only $23.8 billion

KATRINA FUNDS FLOWED SWIFTLY

Democrats argue that the full funding amount is needed to ensure that local businesses, municipalities and transit agencies in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut can launch full-fledged reconstruction projects immediately with the confidence that they will be fully reimbursed.

"This amendment will unnecessarily prolong the suffering of those affected by Superstorm Sandy, and needlessly leave entire communities vulnerable to future severe weather incidents," Senator Robert Menendez, a New Jersey Democrat, said in a statement. "The whole nation will feel the economic impact of a northeast crippled by languishing transportation infrastructure, forsaken small businesses, and families left without homes."

The move would mark a significant shift from Congress' actions following Hurricane Katrina in 2005, the last storm to wreak destruction on a similar scale as Sandy. Within two weeks after Katrina's storm surge flooded New Orleans and other Gulf Coast communities, Congress had appropriated $62.3 billion, and storm costs eventually topped $100 billion.


"When we had the devastation in New Orleans, we got the aid to those states very quickly," Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid said on the Senate floor, noting that far more people were affected by Sandy's path of destruction in a heavily populated area.
 

dmcowen674

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Of course Katrina was an era controlled by Republicans with Bush and it was Republican Red states.

Now it's Obama and the affected states are Blue Democrat states.

Even Republican Governor Chris Christy could not help.
 

bozack

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gotta love the media, the dems load this piece of shit up with tons of pork and when the repubs come in and slice it out suddenly they are the bad guys...

And no surprise with Dave-o being his usual self taking a hard left stance no matter how silly the games are.
 

nehalem256

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Please point out the 'shit tons of pork' in this bill.

The Republican plan would eliminate some $13 billion in infrastructure improvements aimed at helping to prevent damage from future storms. Among these are projects to keep New York City subway tunnels from flooding and to build sand barriers to protect some shorelines from storm surges.

It labels $5.4 billion to make transportation systems more resilient as "non-Sandy related." The Amtrak passenger rail agency, a frequent target of Republican budget-cutting efforts would get only $32 million under the bill, instead of $336 million.
Coats said such mitigation efforts were "long-term projects" that should not be immediately funded without further study.

The Republicans also aim to cut out $150 million for rebuilding fisheries, including those damaged by disasters in Alaska and the Gulf Coast. It would exclude a $58.9 million Department of Agriculture request to replant trees on private property due to "unsubstantiated" estimates for damage from Sandy.

What does Alaska and the Gulf Coast have to do with hurricane Sandy?
 

boochi

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Katrina did not happen when we were running Trillion dollar deficits.
 
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Katrina did not happen when we were running Trillion dollar deficits.

In addition, comparing a city that is literally built under sea level with levies failing - is COMPLETELY incomparable apples to oranges with a northern hurricane.
 

nehalem256

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In addition, comparing a city that is literally built under sea level with levies failing - is COMPLETELY incomparable apples to oranges with a northern hurricane.

Shouldn't we have less sympathy for people who stupidly live below sea level in an area more prone to hurricanes?
 

Thump553

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What does Alaska and the Gulf Coast have to do with hurricane Sandy?

So you are justifying reducing the Hurricane Sandy relief to a little more than one thrid because of the you feel 0.002% of the funds going to Alaska and the Gulf Coast don't belong in this bill? GOP math never fails to amaze.
 

nehalem256

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So you are justifying reducing the Hurricane Sandy relief to a little more than one thrid because of the you feel 0.002% of the funds going to Alaska and the Gulf Coast don't belong in this bill? GOP math never fails to amaze.

(1) I think you mean 0.2%

(2) you apparently missed the "The Republican plan would eliminate some $13 billion in infrastructure improvements aimed at helping to prevent damage from future storms"

This would total 21.5% of the bill.
 
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Shouldn't we have less sympathy for people who stupidly live below sea level in an area more prone to hurricanes?

Won't hear me arguing against that :p

Or rather - more specifically - I am against the REBUILDING of under the sea level. It's make way for fail once again!
 

FerrelGeek

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gotta love the media, the dems load this piece of shit up with tons of pork and when the repubs come in and slice it out suddenly they are the bad guys...

And no surprise with Dave-o being his usual self taking a hard left stance no matter how silly the games are.

Why people even bother responding to Dave's posts is beyond me.
 

EagleKeeper

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Why people even bother responding to Dave's posts is beyond me.

  • Those that support his POV that Republicans are evil.
  • Those that can not tolerate that fact that he cherry picks and does not always read/comprehend what he quotes
  • Those that look at what he quoted and find out the reason why.
 

EagleKeeper

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Forgot about the false war in Iraq already eh?

Bush started it in March 2003. It didn't end until Obama recalled all troops.
Troops were being drawn down before Obama came along.
Obama did not get all the troops out of Iraq. More are in there than before 2001
 

HomerJS

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gotta love the media, the dems load this piece of shit up with tons of pork and when the repubs come in and slice it out suddenly they are the bad guys...

And no surprise with Dave-o being his usual self taking a hard left stance no matter how silly the games are.

One persons generator is another persons pork
 

chucky2

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Aren't these states the well off superbly managed and thus running consistent surpluses and hence have large emergency funds and can pay off loans they'll need to take on to rebuild themselves? Why does the Fed need to get involved at all?
 

boochi

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Forgot about the false war in Iraq already eh?

Bush started it in March 2003. It didn't end until Obama recalled all troops.

What does this have to do with my post when in 2005 the deficit was less than 320 billion and even less in 2006.
 

Moonbeam

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gotta love the media, the dems load this piece of shit up with tons of pork and when the repubs come in and slice it out suddenly they are the bad guys...

And no surprise with Dave-o being his usual self taking a hard left stance no matter how silly the games are.

I have to take exception to this. Repubs have been worthless shit for as long as I can remember. The whole inability to reason and see your ego bias for what it is, a need for safety from fear turns repubs, as you call them, monsters. You are the assholes who won't nurse your kids because you're afraid of stretch marks will make you look bad.