Republicans know they're in trouble once the website problems are solved

[shira]

Republicans are beginning to realize that arguing that problems with the ACA website "prove" that Obamacare itself is a failure is simply painting themselves into a corner, for the simple reason that websites can be fixed. It doesn't help that Republicans aren't offering any substantive arguments against Obamacare (calling it a "train wreck" and a "disaster" over and over and over again is a pretty stupid argument if you can't show anyone the twisted metal of the crashed cars or the rubble of the collapsed buildings), and aren't offering any reasonable alternative. Well, Republican politicians are waking up to the fact that they're going to get fvcked over when the website problems are solved. What do they say then?

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-rights-realization-websites-are-fixable

Privately, certain Republicans express concern with the party’s decision to focus so much attention on a website that could very well be fixed over the next few months, instead of calling attention to other potentially problematic aspects of the law. And polls show support for Republicans remains way down, while support for Obamacare is still ticking up.​

I get the sense that GOP officials, feeling desperate after their party’s standing went into free fall after their government shutdown, saw website glitches as a life-preserver. Don’t ask too many questions, they said, just hold on before we sink even further.

But as the storm subsides, Republicans find themselves adrift with an unhelpful floatation device. They’re not only attacking a health care law that’s far more popular than they are, they’re also relying heavily on a problem with a finite end. Assuming the website issues can be resolved in a reasonable amount of time, GOP lawmakers will be left with the “We still don’t like it” talking point, which the American mainstream probably won’t find especially persuasive.

What’s more, if we take this one step further, the post-policy thesis comes into sharper focus. Republicans have no real intention of improving the health care system or helping consumers have greater access to affordable coverage. Indeed, there are no policy goals at play whatsoever. If you watched yesterday’s hearing on Capitol Hill, you may have noticed there were no moments in which GOP lawmakers stopped complaining and started talking about actual substantive solutions.

Is it any wonder Republicans are “privately” concerned they’ll be stuck after the website has been repaired?

And what does it say about a major party that its biggest hope right now is that an under-performing website will fail, preventing a policy success for tens of millions of people?

And righties, attacking Maddow as a "liberal bitch" doesn't address her argument.

 

[Jaskalas]

Or maybe it's the thousands, millions? who have / will lose their healthcare, and be forced to pay more.

 

[MagickMan]

They'll say they aren't paying, have the lowest legal withholding possible taken out, to avoid the IRS garnishing their returns, and tell the whole system to go fuck itself? If you can't back up the law (the USSC said the most that can be done is garnish tax returns), it's rather pointless, isn't it?

Also, people who don't file (which is millions of people in inner cities) are entirely off the hook and aren't covered either, which was kind of the whole point of the ACA in the first place, wasn't it? "By not filing they're breaking the law!" I'm absolutely sure they don't care, because there's no room in the courts or prisons to do anything about it anyway.

Seems to me this whole damned thing is just for rich white folks, to make sure they're covered.

 

[madoka]

Or they will find that the website was yet another example of Obama cronyism and corruption?

First Lady Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website.

Toni Townes-Whitley, Princeton class of ’85, is senior vice president at CGI Federal, which earned the no-bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov. CGI Federal is the U.S. arm of a Canadian company.

Townes-Whitley and her Princeton classmate Michelle Obama are both members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/25/m...y-that-built-obamacare-website/#ixzz2invvwP5w

 

[compuwiz1]

The OP is full of all kinds of leftist idiocracy. Obamacare is going to destroy the Dems in the mid terms......promise. The devastation will be undenyable by then. This turd will fall squarely on the shoulders of the democrats. Senate & House in 2014, but no boner. (Boehner) Anyone who doesn't see Obama as a failure, at this point, is just hiding under a rock......or a criminal just like him.

 

[umbrella39]

The OP is full of all kinds of leftist idiocracy. Obamacare is going to destroy the Dems in the mid terms......promise. The devastation will be undenyable by then. This turd will fall squarely on the shoulders of the democrats. Senate & House in 2014, but no boner. (Boehner) Anyone who doesn't see Obama as a failure, at this point, is just hiding under a rock......or a criminal just like him.

lolconsevatards and their overactive fear centers. No.. the gop is toast as they have exposed themselves again.

 

[MagickMan]

Or they will find that the website was yet another example of Obama cronyism and corruption?

First Lady Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website.

Toni Townes-Whitley, Princeton class of ’85, is senior vice president at CGI Federal, which earned the no-bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov. CGI Federal is the U.S. arm of a Canadian company.

Townes-Whitley and her Princeton classmate Michelle Obama are both members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/25/m...y-that-built-obamacare-website/#ixzz2invvwP5w

Holy shit. D:

 

[IGBT]

the economics of the Affordable Care Act fusk everybody.
Enjoy. When you create a nation of takers, welfare recipients, illegal aliens, and rampant fraud and corruption in the distribution of entitlements, this is the parasites eating the host. America voted this suck in 2X - despite all the warnings.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...r-health-plan-you-can-keep-it-act_764734.html

 

[Moonbeam]

The OP is full of all kinds of leftist idiocracy. Obamacare is going to destroy the Dems in the mid terms......promise. The devastation will be undenyable by then. This turd will fall squarely on the shoulders of the democrats. Senate & House in 2014, but no boner. (Boehner) Anyone who doesn't see Obama as a failure, at this point, is just hiding under a rock......or a criminal just like him.

Probably the biggest threat to Obama care would come if a drug could be found to treat conservative brain defects and the rest of us had to pay the extra cost to supply it to the millions who would soon be eligible for it.

 

[Moonbeam]

the economics of the Affordable Care Act fusk everybody.
Enjoy. When you create a nation of takers, welfare recipients, illegal aliens, and rampant fraud and corruption in the distribution of entitlements, this is the parasites eating the host. America voted this suck in 2X - despite all the warnings.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...r-health-plan-you-can-keep-it-act_764734.html

When you get a nation of brain dead babbling idiots you get posts like yours.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Another poster who's primary concern is to worship a political party rather than being concerned with repairing that which is almost unrepairable in this country. Shame. Coincidentally that's the same behavior as the dumb shit politicians on both sides of the political aisle.

 

[2timer]

Another poster who's primary concern is to worship a political party rather than being concerned with repairing that which is almost unrepairable in this country. Shame. Coincidentally that's the same behavior as the dumb shit politicians on both sides of the political aisle.

The website is unrepairable? Like it's Doomed with a capital "D"? Wow, that would be interesting.

 

[Doppel]

Republicans are beginning to realize that arguing that problems with the ACA website "prove" that Obamacare itself is a failure is simply painting themselves into a corner, for the simple reason that websites can be fixed. It doesn't help that Republicans aren't offering any substantive arguments against Obamacare (calling it a "train wreck" and a "disaster" over and over and over again is a pretty stupid argument if you can't show anyone the twisted metal of the crashed cars or the rubble of the collapsed buildings), and aren't offering any reasonable alternative. Well, Republican politicians are waking up to the fact that they're going to get fvcked over when the website problems are solved. What do they say then?

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-rights-realization-websites-are-fixable



And righties, attacking Maddow as a "liberal bitch" doesn't address her argument.

First, I'm really just shocked that you of all people created a threat criticizing the right. It seems so out of character.

Second, Republicans have been criticizing Obamacare well before the cluster that is the website failed. It isn't surprising they are focusing on the worst part of it now, but when it is is repaired they'll surely find something else to target.

 

[MagickMan]

Probably the biggest threat to Obama care would come if a drug could be found to treat conservative brain defects and the rest of us had to pay the extra cost to supply it to the millions who would soon be eligible for it.

When you get a nation of brain dead babbling idiots you get posts like yours.

Wow, your transformation into an entirely useless tool is complete. Shocking, especially after all that enlightenment bullshit you were spreading before.

You're such a hypocrite. :hmm:

 

[boomerang]

Republicans are beginning to realize that arguing that problems with the ACA website "prove" that Obamacare itself is a failure is simply painting themselves into a corner, for the simple reason that websites can be fixed. It doesn't help that Republicans aren't offering any substantive arguments against Obamacare (calling it a "train wreck" and a "disaster" over and over and over again is a pretty stupid argument if you can't show anyone the twisted metal of the crashed cars or the rubble of the collapsed buildings), and aren't offering any reasonable alternative. Well, Republican politicians are waking up to the fact that they're going to get fvcked over when the website problems are solved. What do they say then?

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-rights-realization-websites-are-fixable



And righties, attacking Maddow as a "liberal bitch" doesn't address her argument.

You're such a little weenie.

You blast Republicans when they try to defund the bill by hoisting the "It's The Law of The Land" banner and parading it around. Then, you blast Republicans for not giving arguments against the law that suit your criteria. We know that there are none that would fit.

Your motives are transparent. Faced with the realization that once the website is fixed the people the program desperately needs to get on board to maintain its viability are going to pretty much wholly reject it, you lash out against your "enemy". Being a leftist, quite obviously you are not at fault.

Somebody said the program was like a reverse Robin Hood. Take from the poor and give to the rich. Without healthy young people that can't afford and don't even want it on board, the program cannot support the old and the chronically ill. Only the twisted thought processes of progressives could come up with a program like this. It really stings when these same people realize their votes brought this upon themselves.

Congrats. You wanted it, you own it.

 

[boomerang]

Or they will find that the website was yet another example of Obama cronyism and corruption?

First Lady Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website.

Toni Townes-Whitley, Princeton class of ’85, is senior vice president at CGI Federal, which earned the no-bid contract to build the $678 million Obamacare enrollment website at Healthcare.gov. CGI Federal is the U.S. arm of a Canadian company.

Townes-Whitley and her Princeton classmate Michelle Obama are both members of the Association of Black Princeton Alumni.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/25/m...y-that-built-obamacare-website/#ixzz2invvwP5w

Well ain't that somethin'? In a no-bid contract too. Ha-ha! What a damned shame we don't have a press anymore. We might have found out how much the kickback was. Multi million dollar retirement home on the North shore of Oahu anyone?

 

[Angry Irishman]

The website is unrepairable? Like it's Doomed with a capital "D"? Wow, that would be interesting.

I'm not referencing a website.....one could start with just the trust of the American people. What requires repair is much larger than the dysfunctional ACA website.

 

[Matt1970]

Probably the biggest threat to Obama care would come if a drug could be found to treat conservative brain defects and the rest of us had to pay the extra cost to supply it to the millions who would soon be eligible for it.

Is there a drug to treat repetitive posting of the same bullshit?

 

[boomerang]

Is there a drug to treat repetitive posting of the same bullshit?

There was a time in recent history where he'd have been institutionalized. For the safety of himself and others.

 

[Matt1970]

There was a time in recent history where he'd have been institutionalized. For the safety of himself and others.

Countdown till he comes in here and tells us how our brains are rotted, we secretly hate ourselves, he loves us for it and we are retards.......in...5.....4....3.....

 

[michal1980]

Probably the biggest threat to Obama care would come if a drug could be found to treat conservative brain defects and the rest of us had to pay the extra cost to supply it to the millions who would soon be eligible for it.

The only defect is in you brain.

 

[trenchfoot]

*sniff* *sniff* -mmmm-mmm-mmmmm. I so do love the aroma of sour grapes in the morning.

I sense the Repub leadership is winding itself tighter and tighter into twisted contorted knots as they bang their heads against the barbed wire laced walls they put up around the White House to keep Obama under muted House arrest.

It seems no matter what the Repubs have tried to do to stymie, block, deny and embarrass Obama into political insignificance, these ploys invariably backfired, as evidenced by their poll #'s sinking to their lowest levels ever. (Thank you very much Mr. Cruz, the Dems simply adore you! Keep up the good work).

It looks like the more desperate and further right the Repub leadership takes the party, the more they play right into Obama's hands.

Time to send the crazies to the asylum, calm down, get real and rejoin the ever evolving nation you're increasingly alienating yourselves from, don'cha think? 'Cuz whatever you guys are doing up there on the hill ain't work'in for ya's, it's working against ya's.

 

[Matt1970]

From the Republicans: We told you it needed to be delayed.

From the Democrats: You better hope we don't fix our cluster-fuck website or you are going to look silly.

 

[Angry Irishman]

*sniff* *sniff* -mmmm-mmm-mmmmm. I so do love the aroma of sour grapes in the morning.

I sense the Repub leadership is winding itself tighter and tighter into twisted contorted knots as they bang their heads against the barbed wire laced walls they put up around the White House to keep Obama under muted House arrest.

It seems no matter what the Repubs have tried to do to stymie, block, deny and embarrass Obama into political insignificance, these ploys invariably backfired, as evidenced by their poll #'s sinking to their lowest levels ever. (Thank you very much Mr. Cruz, the Dems simply adore you! Keep up the good work).

It looks like the more desperate and further right the Repub leadership takes the party, the more they play right into Obama's hands.

Time to send the crazies to the asylum, calm down, get real and rejoin the ever evolving nation you're increasingly alienating yourselves from, don'cha think? 'Cuz whatever you guys are doing up there on the hill ain't work'in for ya's, it's working against ya's.

You like what this nation is "evolving" into?

 

[boomerang]

*sniff* *sniff* -mmmm-mmm-mmmmm. I so do love the aroma of sour grapes in the morning.

I sense the Repub leadership is winding itself tighter and tighter into twisted contorted knots as they bang their heads against the barbed wire laced walls they put up around the White House to keep Obama under muted House arrest.

It seems no matter what the Repubs have tried to do to stymie, block, deny and embarrass Obama into political insignificance, these ploys invariably backfired, as evidenced by their poll #'s sinking to their lowest levels ever. (Thank you very much Mr. Cruz, the Dems simply adore you! Keep up the good work).

It looks like the more desperate and further right the Repub leadership takes the party, the more they play right into Obama's hands.

Time to send the crazies to the asylum, calm down, get real and rejoin the ever evolving nation you're increasingly alienating yourselves from, don'cha think? 'Cuz whatever you guys are doing up there on the hill ain't work'in for ya's, it's working against ya's.

You remind me of Charlie Sheen. In the middle of it all, he too thought he was "winning".