Republicans in charge take aim at health overhaul

[umbrella39]

Is anyone actually surprised that the GOP will stick their thumbs up America's ass for 2 more years? Time for some grandstanding.

 

[JS80]

I answered your question adequately. Just because I did not answer it in the fashion YOU wanted does not mean I did not answer it.

lol he mad you didn't fall for his troll bait.

 

[Amused]

lol he mad you didn't fall for his troll bait.

I know, right?

 

[theeedude]

I know, right?

Much easier to demagogue the issue than to take a yes or no stance on a specific piece of legislation.

 

[manimal]

You didn't criticize Obama when he went for healthcare instead of jobs. Why?

Have you ever heard of multitasking? So when they had to do a war appropriations bill they were ignoring the will of the people? When they held hearing on the gulf spill they were wasting time when they should have been working on jobs?


Maybe in a linear mind these things make sense but speaking in euphemisms is disingenuous...

 

[PrinceofWands]

The fact of the matter is that the Democrats planned Obamacare to fail. Obamacare does nothing more than drive more and more people onto medicaid thus giving the federal government the "need" to institute single payer.

Anyone who thinks you can provide services to 30 million people while lowering costs must be smoking some of the 'medical' marijuana over in CA.

Secondly, if the federal government is able to require someone to purchase a private product from a private company using private money to be in good standing with the government by simply existing, there is nothing the federal government cannot do. Now I know that expanding the constitution via it being a "living" document (now if it was intended to be a "living" document why was there an amendment process put in? but that is another discussion) the laws of unintended consequences have always come back to bit the "progressives" in the ass.

Both sides need to rise up and defend the constitution even if the actual words (not made up ones) don't agree with your position. The more the people allow the Constitution be eroded by bureaucrats in D.C. the less power the people will have.

Damnit Pat, you KNOW how much I HATE it when I have to agree completely with you. Stop that immediately. I demand you post some sort of ignorant partisan bullshit at once to make up for it.

 

[fskimospy]

Irrelevant. That does not mean that one man's labor can or should be the right of another man.

That's fine, and you're right that it is irrelevant if that's how you really feel. I'm just making sure you understand the consequences of your actions, contemptible as they are. (although being a tough guy on the internet is a lot easier than in real life)

Luckily for the rest of us, your opinion is so far out on the extreme right wing fringe that it will never be made into actual policy. I just wanted to see if you would actually own up and admit to it.

 

[Amused]

That's fine, and you're right that it is irrelevant if that's how you really feel. I'm just making sure you understand the consequences of your actions, contemptible as they are. (although being a tough guy on the internet is a lot easier than in real life)

Luckily for the rest of us, your opinion is so far out on the extreme right wing fringe that it will never be made into actual policy. I just wanted to see if you would actually own up and admit to it.

It's not a "tough guy" stance. It's a liberal stance. A TRUE liberal stance.

As for tough guy, I have spent the better part of the last 20+ years donating my time and money to help people living with HIV. I believe in charity and put my money where my mouth is.

How many of those here who advocate government redistribution actually donate anything much less their time? Very few, I bet.

 

[fskimospy]

It's not a "tough guy" stance. It's a liberal stance. A TRUE liberal stance.

As for tough guy, I have spent the better part of the last 20+ years donating my time and money to help people living with HIV. I believe in charity and put my money where my mouth is.

How many of those here who advocate government redistribution actually donate anything much less their time? Very few, I bet.

No, it's a classical liberalism stance. It's also definitely an internet tough guy one. Very few classical liberal stances survive contact with reality, which is why there are so few classical liberals left in the world. (at least among those over 25)

I'm very glad that you have donated your time and money to help those affected by HIV. Regardless of that, the policies you advocate would do far more harm to quite a number of those people than the help you have given.

As for your completely made up assumption that people here who are modern liberals don't donate their time, it barely merits a response. As for myself personally however, I've spent quite a lot of time helping build houses with Habitat for Humanity. This is completely meaningless though, because the rightness of policy has absolutely nothing to do with the personal charitable donations of its advocates.

As I said though, your views are largely irrelevant as they are so fringe that they will never be adopted by any industrialized nation.