Republicans change elction rules after the elction to help win.

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Oldgamer

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What the republicans don't realize is all this effort is upon the assumption that only those who vote republican will not mind this, or be lazy and not vote because this is too much effort, or do what is necessary to get their "ducks" in a row with regard to their ID's and voter registration. The thing is they are also affecting their own party voters.
 

monovillage

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You calling anyone a hack is comedy fucking gold. You redefine hack, and take it to new levels. Your faux outrage is funny, pathetic, but funny.

The asshole obviously doesn't even know what a "provisional ballot" is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_ballot
A provisional ballot would be cast when:

The voter refuses to show a photo ID (in regions that require one)
The voter's name does not appear on the electoral roll for the given precinct.
The voter's registration contains inaccurate or out-dated information such as the wrong address or a misspelled name.
The voter's ballot has already been recorded
 

ivwshane

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The asshole obviously doesn't even know what a "provisional ballot" is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_ballot

Says the guy who didn't bother answering my question about how previous provisional ballots were validated. Here is a clue for you, just because it's provisional doesn't mean it's not valid. If this is how that state has handled provisional ballots in the past then no big deal but if it's something new then perhaps you could remove your head from your ass and see what's really going on.

I'm sure your head is stuck up your ass and for you it only matters if your team is winning, not how they are winning.
 

monovillage

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Says the guy who didn't bother answering my question about how previous provisional ballots were validated. Here is a clue for you, just because it's provisional doesn't mean it's not valid. If this is how that state has handled provisional ballots in the past then no big deal but if it's something new then perhaps you could remove your head from your ass and see what's really going on.

I'm sure your head is stuck up your ass and for you it only matters if your team is winning, not how they are winning.

I did answer your question, it was in the link I so thoughtfully provided.
Whether a provisional ballot is counted is contingent upon the verification of that voter's eligibility.
 

compuwiz1

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Lol, the question was; what is the normal process for verifying those ballots.

Any process that does not allow multiple votes, votes by non residents, or by dead people..... by democrats, is cheating, on the republican's part. ;)

See, we got plenty of votes and we didn't even have to include the illegal aliens!
 

ivwshane

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Any process that does not allow multiple votes, votes by non residents, or by dead people..... by democrats, is cheating, on the republican's part. ;)

See, we got plenty of votes and we didn't even have to include the illegal aliens!

Always be deflecting!
 

boomerang

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What the republicans don't realize is all this effort is upon the assumption that only those who vote republican will not mind this, or be lazy and not vote because this is too much effort, or do what is necessary to get their "ducks" in a row with regard to their ID's and voter registration. The thing is they are also affecting their own party voters.
You make an assumption in this post that everyone thinks as simplistically as you do. I'd venture that there is a 100% likelihood that those who made this decision know the potential consequences of this. 100%.

I think that too many in this thread don't understand the meaning of the word "provisional" as it applies to voting. Edit: Ah, I see monovillage already did the hand holding on this.
 
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thraashman

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Isn't it Joseph Stalin who's attributed with the quote "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."

Sounds like the Republicans in Virginia are taking a note from him.
 

shira

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Are they insinuating the provisional ballots would be heavily democrat?

A report I read in the Washington Post indicated that a large number of the provisional ballots - close to 500 - were cast in Fairfax county, which voted 70% Democrat. Under the new requirement, those with provisional ballots are required to appear in person to prove they're a legitimate voter.

As reported in the Post, a number of these ballots became provisional because the voter had used an absentee ballot in the previous election and voted in-person this year. I'm not sure why that makes the ballot "provisional," but - again according to the Post - only about 20 of the provisional voters has showed up so far.

And note also that the current count shows the Republican up by only 17 votes (out of more than 2.2 million cast!). So those provisional ballots from Fairfax could easily make up the difference.
 

cubby1223

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The problem with these stories is the difficulty getting the actual story. It's always clouded with the people shouting "I HATE REPUBLICANS!" or "I HATE DEMOCRATS!"

Try to decipher what's going on and the only opinion I can form is either "I support people who hate Republicans" or "I don't support people who hate Republicans."
 

thraashman

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ivwshane

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That's a shitty thing for them to do, though it is somewhat a different situation from the one the thread is about. I'm not sure if I consider this worse or not. They're both shit behavior by the ones doing it. Either way the voice of the people is being hampered.

He will speak against that behavior though, just like he spoke out against the behavior in this threads original topic...

...oh wait he didn't.


I guess crappy and corrupt behavior of one incident excuses the crapy and corrupt behavior of another incident. /s
 

herm0016

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i can see where this could be needed, or not.

the theory that we should just count all the votes, no matter who voted and if they are lawfully allowed to vote, or voted multiple times or any other thing is flawed also.
 

nehalem256

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Isn't it Joseph Stalin who's attributed with the quote "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."

Sounds like the Republicans in Virginia are taking a note from him.

Maybe they are just learning from Democrats who always, coincidentally, seem to gain votes the more times your recount :hmm:
 

cubby1223

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He will speak against that behavior though, just like he spoke out against the behavior in this threads original topic...

...oh wait he didn't.


I guess crappy and corrupt behavior of one incident excuses the crapy and corrupt behavior of another incident. /s

The point being made is "crappy and corrupt behavior of one incident does not prove 'the other side' is superior."

The problem is it's often not possible to separate out the political gamesmanship from these situations.
 
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ivwshane

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The point being made is "crappy and corrupt behavior of one incident does not prove 'the other side' is superior."

The problem is it's often not possible to separate out the political gamesmanship from these situations.

And exactly no one was making the opposite case.
 

xBiffx

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He will speak against that behavior though, just like he spoke out against the behavior in this threads original topic...

...oh wait he didn't.


I guess crappy and corrupt behavior of one incident excuses the crapy and corrupt behavior of another incident. /s

Didn't speak about either behavior, fucktard. I just posted a link.

Any intelligent person knows neither is excusable and that stating the obvious is a waste of time. Nothing said in here is going to change a thing.
 

ivwshane

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Didn't speak about either behavior, fucktard. I just posted a link.

Any intelligent person knows neither is excusable and that stating the obvious is a waste of time. Nothing said in here is going to change a thing.

Well thanks for pointing out that the people in this thread who have excused this behavior are idiots.


Usually when you reply to a topic it's to add to the topic;) maybe you should create your own thread fucktard;)
 

thraashman

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Didn't speak about either behavior, fucktard. I just posted a link.

Any intelligent person knows neither is excusable and that stating the obvious is a waste of time. Nothing said in here is going to change a thing.

I'd say that holds true for all of P&N. Really, I just post in here so I blow off my political steam instead of pissing off my friends.