Republicans change elction rules after the elction to help win.

[Jimzz]

Republicans Just Changed The Rules AFTER A Virginia Election To Change The Outcome
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/09/virginia-attorney-general-race_n_4247571.html


"With Friday's state rule change in place, the board added that final results are expected on Tuesday Nov. 12, with a midnight deadline in place. NBC Washington also notes that any voter who cast a provisional ballot now has to contact or visit their local Board of Election office by then to have their say count. "


This is so crazy you can't make it up.

 

[Greenman]

That article was so poorly written it's useless. I read it, and have only a vague idea of what the issue is. I'm going to go ahead and guess that there is a reason for the convoluted nature of the article, that being an attempt to make what might be a reasonable action into a nefarious activity.

 

[Jimzz]

That article was so poorly written it's useless. I read it, and have only a vague idea of what the issue is. I'm going to go ahead and guess that there is a reason for the convoluted nature of the article, that being an attempt to make what might be a reasonable action into a nefarious activity.

Here's another link talking about it...

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...ld-Swing-Va-AG-Race-to-Herring-231287821.html

"Schoeneman said a new ruling on Friday from the State Board of Elections requires voters who cast provisional ballots to be present to have them counted, which means if you cast a provisional ballot, contact or visit your local Board of Election office to make sure your vote counts."

 

[MomentsofSanity]

What possible reason is there requiring someone who cast a provisional ballot to be now take further action to have it count? Disgraceful.

Edit: ahh there was an irregularity and it appears they want to ensure all provisional ballots are valid I'm assuming. Should be required to contact every last one, not have then hopefully learn their need to follow up.

 

[Matt1970]

Are they insinuating the provisional ballots would be heavily democrat?

 

[Jimzz]

Are they insinuating the provisional ballots would be heavily democrat?

The republican has a very small lead. So any new ballots are a risk vs what the current count stands at.

A republican in the district said the ballots would swing the vote to the Dem. So the rules were changed, after the election, to try and keep as many out.

"Brian Schoenenman, a Republican official on the Fairfax County Electoral Board, said via Twitter that a new vote count for the 8th District had 5,137 votes for Herring, 2,039 votes for Republican Mark Obenshain, and ten write-in votes, a change of 1,132 votes in favor of Herring. Schoeneman made the announcement after the board met early Saturday morning to investigate an apparent error in absentee ballot returns.
According to results posted on the Virginia Board of Election page, Obenshain was ahead by 1,262 votes, but those numbers did not include the new results from Fairfax County or any provisional votes cast on Election Day."

 

[Anarchist420]

i dont get what the point of having elections is if less than half expressly consent to the winner... they might as well just pick a name out of a hat.

the circle of bombs sucked so bad he only got ~30% affirmed consent, and mcawful got at least 1/3 less than that.

 

[Greenman]

It's difficult to dig the facts out of whats been written, but it looks like there was a serious mistake made in the counting of ballots, that's the reason for the rule change.

It's a real pity that pretty much all political discussion has become nothing more than emotional bleating.

 

[BoomerD]

If you can't beat em, cheat em.

 

[waggy]

elections. they have consequences.

 

[xj0hnx]

It's a real pity that pretty much all political discussion has become nothing more than emotional bleating.

That would about sum it up.

What possible reason is there requiring someone who cast a provisional ballot to be now take further action to have it count? Disgraceful.

What is "disgraceful" about it? That's the point of a "provisional" ballot, the vote is cast under the provision that the voter's identity is later verified. Doesn't seem like it's that big of a deal if this is true ..."NBC Washington also notes that any voter who cast a provisional ballot now has to contact or visit their local Board of Election office by then to have their say count."

 

[monovillage]

You mean they actually made it so people that cast provisional ballots have to prove they were actually legal voters? Horrors! That means that criminal immigrants that illegally voted might not show up to be checked out.

 

[Greenman]

If you can't beat em, cheat em.

My point exactly. The automatic assumption of wrongdoing, the ever so important slogan that (for reasons I'll never understand) lends credence to the charge. The need for any rational thought is removed from the process, it's entirely emotion based, and you just buy into it because it fits what you want to believe. Aren't you even a little curious about the facts?

 

[Lithium381]

Why can't they realize their possibility at election is slipping because their platform sucks. . . . playing games like this and in Ohio will only get them so far. . .

 

[ivwshane]

I don't know what's more disgusting, those that voted to change the rules after the election or those that see zero wrong doing here.

Quick question; how were provisional ballots validated before? If people are now, after the fact, required to show up in person to verify their ballot, will the state being paying employers or employees lost wages? The law requires businesses to allow their employers time to vote, how does that work in this instance?


No surprises about who chimed in and approves of such tactics though, they were already anti American to begin with.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I don't know what's more disgusting, those that voted to change the rules after the election or those that see zero wrong doing here.

The latter. The former wouldn't do it if they couldn't get away with it.

 

[trenchfoot]

Florida?........calling Florida? Yoooo-hoooo.......*ahem*....the Repub Virginians request your expertise in salvaging elections from the hideous jaws of......."The Majority Opposition". Oh nooooooo's. Wasn't voter suppression/disenfranchisement and dirty deeds done dirt cheap enough? What the hell?

 

[Greenman]

I don't know what's more disgusting, those that voted to change the rules after the election or those that see zero wrong doing here.

Quick question; how were provisional ballots validated before? If people are now, after the fact, required to show up in person to verify their ballot, will the state being paying employers or employees lost wages? The law requires businesses to allow their employers time to vote, how does that work in this instance?


No surprises about who chimed in and approves of such tactics though, they were already anti American to begin with.

Good job my friend, don't let any facts (or the lack of them) sway your agenda. This has to be an evil plot to throw the election. It's impossible that it's a proper response to a real mistake, because republicans are involved.

Stupid bleating sheep.

 

[compuwiz1]

I read that Black Panthers were intimidating voters....again.

 

[xj0hnx]

I don't know what's more disgusting, those that voted to change the rules after the election or those that see zero wrong doing here.

Quick question; how were provisional ballots validated before? If people are now, after the fact, required to show up in person to verify their ballot, will the state being paying employers or employees lost wages? The law requires businesses to allow their employers time to vote, how does that work in this instance?


No surprises about who chimed in and approves of such tactics though, they were already anti American to begin with.

Hey there fruitcake, you do realize that it could go either way and turn around and bite them in the ass, right? That is unless you're saying that it would be mostly democrat voters that tried to cheat using the provisional ballots.

 

[xj0hnx]

Stupid bleating sheep.

Beat 'em up, beat 'em up, rah, rah, rah!!! Snap those spinal cords ya, ya, ya!!!

Not funny. Not acceptable.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[schmuckley]

You mean they actually made it so people that cast provisional ballots have to prove they were actually legal voters? Horrors! That means that criminal immigrants that illegally voted might not show up to be checked out.

^This.

 

[ivwshane]

Good job my friend, don't let any facts (or the lack of them) sway your agenda. This has to be an evil plot to throw the election. It's impossible that it's a proper response to a real mistake, because republicans are involved.

Stupid bleating sheep.

I notice you didn't address my questions. Why is that? Because it might show that this move was unprecedented?

Hey there fruitcake, you do realize that it could go either way and turn around and bite them in the ass, right? That is unless you're saying that it would be mostly democrat voters that tried to cheat using the provisional ballots.

It's a dirty move regardless of the outcome. Thanks anyway you fucking hack!

 

[xj0hnx]

It's a dirty move regardless of the outcome. Thanks anyway you fucking hack!

You calling anyone a hack is comedy fucking gold. You redefine hack, and take it to new levels. Your faux outrage is funny, pathetic, but funny.

 

[waggy]

You calling anyone a hack is comedy fucking gold. You redefine hack, and take it to new levels. Your faux outrage is funny, pathetic, but funny.

yeah i don't get why he is pissed. ain't the mantra of the DNC "elections have consequences?"




btw t his is why i think politics needs a major change..