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Republicans behave like barbarians at Bush rally (official event)

Oct. 30, 2004 | COLUMBUS, Ohio -- [/b]Lisa Dupler, a 33-year-old from Columbus, held up a rainbow-striped John Kerry sign outside the Nationwide Arena on Friday, as Republicans streamed out after being rallied by George W. Bush and Arnold Schwarzenegger. A thickset woman with very short, dark hair, Dupler was silent and barely flinched as people passing her hissed "lovely human" into her ear. An old lady looked at her and said, "You people are sick!" A kid who looked to be about 10 or 11 affected a limp wrist and mincing voice and said, "Oh, I'm gay." Rather than restraining him, his squat mother guffawed and then turned to Dupler and sneered, "Why don't you go marry your girlfriend?" Encouraged, her son yelled, "We don't want faggots in the White House!"[/b]

The throngs of Republicans were pumped after seeing the president and the action hero. But there was an angry edge to their elation. They shrieked at the dozen or so protesters standing on the concrete plaza outside the auditorium. "Kerry's a terrorist!" yelled a stocky kid in baggy jeans and braces. "Communists for Kerry! Go back to Russia," someone else screamed. Many of them took up the chant "Kerry sucks"; old women and teenage boys shouting with equal ferocity.

With four days to go until the election, you can feel the temperature rising in Ohio.

Among Democrats, it's easy to indulge the fantasy that all the rage in this election is directed one way -- at Bush. Thousands of progressives are campaigning here, going door-to-door to get out the vote, training to watch the polls, holding concerts and rallies and anything else they can think of to beat Bush. Hundreds are from other parts of the country but most are locals. Jess Good, Ohio director of the massive get-out-the-vote group America Coming Together, says that 93 percent of the 12,000 volunteers expected to work on Election Day are from Ohio itself.

Clearly, something exciting and unprecedented is happening. After reviewing Democratic and progressive field operations in Ohio and Florida, L.A. Weekly columnist Harold Meyerson wrote, "I have found something I've never before seen in my 36 or so years as a progressive activist and later as a journalist: an effective, fully functioning American left."

Friday's Republican rally, though, was evidence that many on the right are as fervid and galvanized as their opponents. Pollster John Zogby has called this the "apocalypse election" because people on both sides believe the world will end if their candidate loses. He's right -- the Republicans I met at the Ohio rally spoke in language almost identical to that of the most addled Bush-hater, although often several steps further removed from reality.

Dave, a 54-year-old electronic technician, said that if Kerry wins, "I'm going to leave the country and go to a Third World nation and start a ranch." His wife, Jenny, laughed and accused him of hyperbole, but he insisted he's been studying Portuguese, the language of Brazil, "so we'll have an escape route." Sitting near him was Greg Swalley, a blond electrical contractor. "I think Kerry is the anti-Christ," he said, only half-joking. "He scares me."

We were sitting outside the Nationwide Arena watching the adoring crowd on a massive elevated monitor. Swalley and the others had tickets and I had press credentials. But by the time we arrived, 40 minutes before the rally was scheduled to start, security had closed off the area and no more people were being let in. So dozens waited outside and watched their heroes on the screen. The monitor showed a huge W. and then the words, "Let's Roll." When Bush, his wife and Schwarzenegger appeared, wild cheering echoed outside the building.

Inside, Schwarzenegger tried to strike a sunny, moderate note. "There is optimism in Ohio," he said. "There is optimism all over the country because President Bush is leading the way. He's fighting for all of us.

"President Bush knows you can't reason with people that are blinded by hate," Schwarzenegger said. "But let me tell you something: Their hate is no match for our decency, their hate is no match for America's decency, and it is no match for the leadership and the resolve of George W. Bush."

Outside, though, I didn't see much American decency among Bush's followers. The conservative movement has long been fueled by anger and resentment. But here the negativity was at an especially high pitch, perhaps because some were starting to realize they might lose -- and that seemed like the end of the world.

Looking at the small knot of protesters, many of whom were chanting, "Four more days," 22-year-old Nick Karnes, wearing a knit ski cap and baggy jeans, yelled, "Shut up!" Then he turned to his friend and said, "We can take 'em."

"I'm definitely gonna vote for him," Karnes said of Bush. "Because he's been the president for four years and nothing bad has happened since Sept. 11. He's kept me alive for four years." If Kerry becomes president, he said, "We'll be dead within a year."

Karnes told me that most of his friends are voting for Bush, too, but a couple are voting for Kerry. "I'm not speaking to them right now," he said.

When the crowd came pouring out of the arena, the vitriol only increased. One clean-cut man, holding his son by the hand, yelled "coward!" at one of the protesters. I asked him what made him say that, and he said, "Because he's demeaning our troops by saying they are fighting a lost cause."

"Jesus! Jesus!" screamed 26-year-old Joe Robles, pointing to his Bush-Cheney sign. "The man stands for God," he said of the president. "We want somebody who stands for Jesus. I always vote my Christian morals." Robles, a student at Ohio State University, told me that Kerry's daughter is a lesbian. I said I thought that was Dick Cheney's daughter, but he shook his head no with confidence.

Robles said that Kerry would make it illegal for preachers to say that marriage should only be between a man and a woman. In California, he informed me gravely, such preaching has been deemed a hate crime, and pastors who indulge in it are fined $25,000, which "goes to lesbians."

A few of the protesters, meanwhile, were red-faced from yelling at their antagonists about homophobia and budget deficits and a senseless war. Republicans were incensed. A blond woman dragged her young redheaded son toward the protesters, pointed to them, and said, "These are the Democrats," speaking as if she was revealing an awful reality that he was finally old enough to face. As she walked away with a group of other mothers and children, she was so angry she could barely speak. A friend consoled her by promising her that Bush would win. After all, she pointed out, "Look how many more Bush supporters there were on the street!"

That calmed the angry blond woman down a little. But she was still mad. "We," she said, stammering and gesturing contemptuously at the demonstrators, "we are the way it should be!"

The clown who thought Kerry's daughter is a lesbian was a particular loser IMHO. As the PIPA study pointed out, many Republicans are just plain wrong on the objective facts. Pathetic.

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I live in Ohio. Sorry our dirty little secret is out. Now the whole world knows that we have at least our fair share of idiots and morons who are allowed to roam freely without supervision. The Chinese should study the Republicans for ways to improve the brain-washing techniques they pioneered in the '50s.
 
How pathetic can you get? I hope all you Bush supporters realize these frothing idiots are your teammates. They are typical representatives of the ignorance we have learned to associate with supporting Bush.
 
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
I live in Ohio. Sorry our dirty little secret is out. Now the whole world knows that we have at least our fair share of idiots and morons who are allowed to roam freely without supervision. The Chinese should study the Republicans for ways to improve the brain-washing techniques they pioneered in the '50s.

The city of Cincinati is proof enough that Ohio has its fair share of idiots.
 
Both sides are foaming idiots. This election is a farce and a dis-service to the American people. Actually scratch that, the average American doesn't have the intelluct to see the farce our government has become. The reason this sort of behavior is allowed is because people aren't educated and thus politicans can pander to such demagoguery as this.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Oct. 30, 2004 | COLUMBUS, Ohio
[ ... ]
"I'm definitely gonna vote for him," Karnes said of Bush. "Because he's been the president for four years and nothing bad has happened since Sept. 11. He's kept me alive for four years." If Kerry becomes president, he said, "We'll be dead within a year." ...
Speaking of foaming idiots, this little splash of lunacy is a special blend of ignorance and denial. Do they really think keeping nail clippers off airplanes will foil al Qaida, especially when our ports and highways are still wide open? Do they have any idea how frequently al Qaida has attacked our homeland?
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
all parties have their fanatics and idiots

True, but if I want unbridled, raw hatred, I know exactly where to look. As a college student, I see a lot of very fanatical people on both sides, but the fanatics on Bush side seem MUCH scarier.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
all parties have their fanatics and idiots

True, but if I want unbridled, raw hatred, I know exactly where to look. As a college student, I see a lot of very fanatical people on both sides, but the fanatics on Bush side seem MUCH scarier.

agreed, facists to be exact, or at least the one at my old high school, teachers included, you should hear my government teacher's bashing of democrats and non republicans in general.
 
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
This just reaffirms my belief that votes should have to pass a test before they can vote.

Personally, I'd love that. Republican voter eligibility would be down to around 20%.
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
all parties have their fanatics and idiots

True, but if I want unbridled, raw hatred, I know exactly where to look. As a college student, I see a lot of very fanatical people on both sides, but the fanatics on Bush side seem MUCH scarier.

agreed, facists to be exact, or at least the one at my old high school, teachers included, you should hear my government teacher's bashing of democrats and non republicans in general.
Teachers you say?

Teacher Kicks Student Wearing GOP Shirt

This pass your test, Darkhawk? LOL. Bunch of pitiful elitist partisans.

Official Crime Against Republicans Thread

Make no mistake, I se extremists on both sides. A bigot is a bigot, left or right.
 
Lots of claims of misbehavior by liberals against conservatives. The difference is that here this is an official campaign rally.
 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
This just reaffirms my belief that votes should have to pass a test before they can vote.

Personally, I'd love that. Republican voter eligibility would be down to around 20%.

Democrat eligibility would be down 50%.
 
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
This just reaffirms my belief that votes should have to pass a test before they can vote.

Personally, I'd love that. Republican voter eligibility would be down to around 20%.

Democrat eligibility would be down 50%.

Probably so, but thanks for admitting that Republican voters are less informed than Democratic ones...

50% > 20% ...
 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
This just reaffirms my belief that votes should have to pass a test before they can vote.

Personally, I'd love that. Republican voter eligibility would be down to around 20%.

Democrat eligibility would be down 50%.

Probably so, but thanks for admitting that Republican voters are less informed than Democratic ones...

50% > 20% ...

True, however, the point he was trying to make is that the average American is an idiot
 
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
This just reaffirms my belief that votes should have to pass a test before they can vote.

Personally, I'd love that. Republican voter eligibility would be down to around 20%.

Democrat eligibility would be down 50%.

Probably so, but thanks for admitting that Republican voters are less informed than Democratic ones...

50% > 20% ...

True, however, the point he was trying to make is that the average American is an idiot

Now THAT I will agree with.
 
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