Republicans are offering healthcare suggestions

[her209]

Illinois has tort reform as well. It was just as ineffective here as in TX.

You mean doctors will continue practice defensive medicine? Maybe its because it doesn't cost anything to do so, i.e. any additional tests will not be paid for by the doctor, but the patient or the patient's insurance.

 

[heyheybooboo]

"Malpractice" reform is a misnomer. It is simply a cover to limit the liability of the crappy 10% of physicians and hospitals who commit over 50% of medical errors.

I don't buy the 'defensive' testing argument, either. If a 'test' is reimbursable by BigIns or the gub'mint, I'll wager that a significant percentage of testing is done to generate revenues, either within the specific health system network or to an entity in which a physician has a financial interest.

If you want 'reform,' shine the light on substandard physicians and hospitals, and let the 'market' seek care elsewhere.



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[umbrella39]

Just browsing this thread. This is the most liberalist bullshit forum on the internet i've ever seen. You people are flat out retarded.

Nonsense, with all the yes man sock puppet accounts the scales have tipped recently, you'd have to pull your head out of your ass first to make that call though.

 

[zsdersw]

You're right! All I want is for the government to have total power over your lives! Such as over your health care! Oh wait... that's the dems plan :hmm:

No. You, and those like you, need to realize that your party is the one trying to take control of your life. Yes some pubs do too. But they are RINOs - republicans in name only. They belong on the other side of the fence instead of polluting the rest of us.

The only difference between Republicans and Democrats is in what part of your life they want to use government to control. Democrats want control over everything that affects your wallet, Republicans want control over what you do in the bedroom and what you can watch/listen/read. They each don't want the government to control anything other than their sacred cows.

No, you say? Well, let me ask you this: when was the last time a socially liberal Republican presidential candidate won the primaries? When was the last time a fiscally conservative Democratic presidential candidate did the same?

 

[werepossum]

The only difference between Republicans and Democrats is in what part of your life they want to use government to control. Democrats want control over everything that affects your wallet, Republicans want control over what you do in the bedroom and what you can watch/listen/read. They each don't want the government to control anything other than their sacred cows.

No, you say? Well, let me ask you this: when was the last time a socially liberal Republican presidential candidate won the primaries? When was the last time a fiscally conservative Democratic presidential candidate did the same?

This. Both parties are in love with using the power of government to make others behave as they themselves prefer. Democrats prefer more wealth transfer and Republicans less, but both love the power of government.

And the root cause is us. We the voters do not vote for politicians who promise to not make other people behave or not to take money from someone else and give it to you/spend it on things you like. That's why I so love the FairTax, removing government's power to punish and reward via the tax code.

 

[her209]

And the root cause is us. We the voters do not vote for politicians who promise to not make other people behave or not to take money from someone else and give it to you/spend it on things you like. That's why I so love the FairTax, removing government's power to punish and reward via the tax code.

Under the Fair Tax, are all tax deductions eliminated, all income treated equally, and marriage+dependents status not considered?

 

[Hacp]

This. Both parties are in love with using the power of government to make others behave as they themselves prefer. Democrats prefer more wealth transfer and Republicans less, but both love the power of government.

And the root cause is us. We the voters do not vote for politicians who promise to not make other people behave or not to take money from someone else and give it to you/spend it on things you like. That's why I so love the FairTax, removing government's power to punish and reward via the tax code.

Um, people have already butchered the fair tax. Everyone now wants exemptions for the poor. WTF? NO, the poor should pay as much tax as everyone else. You shouldn't get a free ride just because you're poor.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by Hacp
There is only one sane plan for health care reform. If you can't afford health care, you don't get any health care. Just like in a supermarket. If you can't afford the best cut of steak, you can't just walk out of the store with it. Same simple rule should apply to health care. Keep it simple.

With any luck at all, you'll someday die of a perfectly curable condition, being unable to pay for treatment...

"Sorry, Hacp, but if you can't afford triple bypass surgery, we suggest that you put your affairs in order and prepare yourself for the afterlife. Alternatively, we can euthanize you now, for a small fee..."

:thumbsup:

 

[theeedude]

GOP had 2000-2006 of running the show to reform health care. They punted. Now they are offering suggestions, great, who gives a fvck? They are only for offering suggestions to distract from reforms progressing, not when they actually have an opportunity to implement their ideas.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

It is always a wonder why people always think the prices of health care is too high, we must have insurance service to pay for it instead of thinking WHY the heath care cost is so high and think of way to lower the price so health insurance won't be needed.

Could it be because it has been proven to be much less expensive, as measured by GDP and US dollars expended, in other nations? Some of those nations even have more doctors per capita than the U.S. They also have 100% coverage, a more contented populace, zero medical bankruptcies, and businesses and an economy not burdened by insurance concerns.

Could that be the reason?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Just browsing this thread. This is the most liberalist bullshit forum on the internet i've ever seen. You people are flat out retarded.

Thank you for your eloquent, well-reasoned, convincing response. I think we have all learned from your wisdom.

I really liked the part where you explained how other first world nations' far less expensive health care systems that cover 100% of the populace with zero medical bankruptcies are actually just socialist nanny state failures and how the U.S. system at 17% of GDP is far superior to them. Bravo!