I think the take-away message for most Americans, is that what the GOP talks about when they're the minority party and what they do when they're the majority party are two completely different things. That hypocrisy is difficult not to notice. The GOP thinks they're "getting back to their conservative roots" by blathering on about spending and how there's too much of it, but unless you lived in a cave from 2000-2006, you know how full of shit they really are.
I think the take-away message for most Americans, is that what the GOP talks about when they're the minority party and what they do when they're the majority party are two completely different things. That hypocrisy is difficult not to notice. The GOP thinks they're "getting back to their conservative roots" by blathering on about spending and how there's too much of it, but unless you lived in a cave from 2000-2006, you know how full of shit they really are.
And yet the GOP is hammering away with zero alternative plan, today. Well, for a while now, actually. Perhaps they should have saved their faux outrage until April 1st?
:laugh:
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
:roll: This document is about how they want to do it "differently" than your hero BHO. They are not just sitting back saying "no" - they created this outline of how they think things should be - it's not a "budget" like that moron from the whitehouse was trying to claim and the supposed "news" story furthered. It's not a "budget", and isn't intended to be one - you'd have known that if you actually read the document instead of just lapping up the propaganda coming from the whitehouse.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Again, doesn't matter if they have a totally different plan. Opposing WRONG policy can be had without an opposing policy. You think you libs will ever get that through your heads?
It's not that you can't oppose a policy you consider wrong without offering up an alternative, it's just that nobody will take you seriously... just like what is happening with the GOP now.
Fern
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You're being silly.
The Dems have been complaining about Gitmo for years. They still have no plan what to do about it if closed.
They complained about port security (terrorism), well where's the "plan". FFS, they just passed a huge stimulus bill with nary a dollar devoted to it. Seems to me funds for that could have been fairly described as both 'infrastructure' and 'stimulus'. Yet not a dollar.
Fern
frostedflakes
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Yeah I was going to say, there are plenty of examples of Dems doing the exact same thing. I wouldn't expect some of the people on here to acknowledge that, though.
Let me give you a direct quote:
"Detailed," in Republican-ese, apparently means lacking one single number! And the hilarity ensued.
It is VERY wrong to spend money on americans by improving healthcare, infrastructure, alt energy, and education! War and death ONLY!!!
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Yeah, because that's exactly what the policy is... :roll: I swear you people are so blinded by "hopenchange" you've lost any last semblance of rationality.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Yes, it is detailed policy - not a detailed BUDGET. It does have specific policy in it - have you read it or not? Seems you have not actually read it and have just swallowed the whitehouse propaganda.
It's not even a detailed policy, it's 12 pages of nothing except wishful thinking by Republicans. I've read it, but once again, I give you your revered minority leader:
Well, "here it is!" Or are you incapable of parsing your own party's words?
:roll:
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
:roll: Do you have any idea what a plan and policy is? THAT document is exactly that - a plan and the policy behind each point. Yes, boehner probably didn't choose the correct words but that doesn't mean you, the morons in the WH and press can go around trying to claim this was supposed to be a BUDGET.
Lemon law
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Cad may have a minor point in claiming, "Do you have any idea what a plan and policy is? THAT document is exactly that - a plan and the policy behind each point. Yes, boehner probably didn't choose the correct words but that doesn't mean you, the morons in the WH and press can go around trying to claim this was supposed to be a BUDGET."
But at the end of the day, its really an aggregate American people perception. Some like Cad may cling to the notion that this vague outline statement of principles is in effect a real budget, but if Cad is in a distinct minority as I suspect he is, its one of those mind over matter questions, your opinion does not matter, no matter how strongly you assert it.
But at the end of the day, its really an aggregate American people perception. Some like Cad may cling to the notion that this vague outline statement of principles is in effect a real budget, but if Cad is in a distinct minority as I suspect he is, its one of those mind over matter questions, your opinion does not matter, no matter how strongly you assert it.
squirrel dog
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trenchfoot
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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: tweaker2
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Are you really this deficient in your intelligence?
The Democrats won the election because they conned the public into believing they would end the wars in the Middle East, and cut taxes for 95% of America.
Obama is doing neither of those things. So if you think the Democrats will have much credibility come the 2010 elections - and remember, most elections were close, it's not so much the landslide victory you like to dream it was
Republicans lost because they were never fiscally responsible. Democrats are just taking continuing failed Republican policies, only this time on steroids. :roll:
You're using Dem short term emergency oriented policies to describe Pres. Obama's and The Dem's long term policies. That does not make sense.
What emergency policies? Obama's own people say the recession will end in 2009 and yet FY 2010 has a 1.2 trillion deficit.
My apologies to you for not making my position clearer in that post. I am referring to Dem policies that are longer term than what you are describing.
My Bad.:beer:
newnameman
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Did you read the plan? It's not that long.
It's more of the same, you can retort my earlier sarcastic summary of it in this thread if you like.
trenchfoot
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Obama's budget was easy to come up with.. take our deficit and triple it.. done.. multiply times number of years.
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