Republican Spending Blueprint Contains ?No Detail.?

DealMonkey

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Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Is the GOP seriously this stupid?

Republican Spending Blueprint Contains ?No Detail,? Orszag Says

By Brian Faler

March 28 (Bloomberg) -- A Republican budget proposal offers few details on how it would prevent a projected gusher of government red ink in coming years, White House Budget Director Peter Orszag said.

Republicans have gone from ?the party of ?no? to the party of ?no detail,?? Orszag said in an interview on Bloomberg Television?s ?Political Capital With Al Hunt? scheduled for broadcast today.


House Minority Leader John Boehner, an Ohio Republican, released earlier this week a 19-page, campaign-style document that included no specific numbers on deficits or government spending. The plan focused on calling for lower taxes.

Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the top Republican on the House Budget Committee, distanced himself from Boehner?s document during an appearance on the Bloomberg program.

?There was some confusion as to what was released on Thursday; that was not our alternative budget,? Ryan said. He termed it ?a broader Republican economic agenda? and said he would unveil the party?s tax-and-spending plan that includes specifics on March 31.

Ryan blasted the administration?s budget, saying, ?We cannot mortgage our children?s future like the budget that we?re being asked to vote on does.?

The comments came as lawmakers prepare to debate President Barack Obama?s budget next week on the House and Senate floors.

Reconciliation Issue

Orszag, 40, declined to say whether the administration would favor using a procedural tactic in the Senate later this year that would prevent Republicans from blocking Obama?s proposed overhaul of the nation?s health-care system.

Democrats in Congress are debating whether to use a tactic known as ?reconciliation? that would enable them to approve the health-care legislation with a simple majority in the Senate rather than the 60 votes usually needed to move controversial bills there. Democrats control the chamber with 58 votes.

Orszag rejected complaints by some Senate Democrats, including Robert Byrd of West Virginia, that using reconciliation on health care would be inappropriate because the tactic is supposed to be reserved for bills that aim to cut the budget deficit.

?Reconciliation has been used in the past for a variety of purposes? including former President George W. Bush?s 2001 tax cuts ?even though that was clearly a huge deficit increaser,? he said.

Reining In Costs

?Health care is the key to our fiscal future, so a health reform that begins the process of bending the curve on health- care cost growth is absolutely essential to reducing our long- term deficit,? he said.

Democrats probably won?t decide whether to use the procedure until next month when they complete their budget plans for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1. Orszag said lawmakers could use reconciliation as a backup plan if Republicans prove unwilling to compromise on health care legislation. ?If, by September, nothing has happened, reconciliation would be a fallback option,? he said.

Orszag also said the administration has included enough money in its budget to accommodate Obama?s plans to send 4,000 additional troops to Afghanistan.

He declined to say whether the administration would request more money from Congress to finance Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner?s plans to unlock the credit markets or to aid the auto industry.

Lower Deficit

Ryan, 39, declined to say how large the deficits would be under the Republican budget proposal he will offer, saying he is awaiting more data from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. Still, he said it would be lower than the $1.4 trillion deficit Obama?s budget is projected to produce next year.

?We?re going in a different direction,? he said. The Republican plan is ?going to borrow a lot less money, it?s going to spend a lot less money and it?s not going to raise taxes,? he said.

Asked about news reports that he was embarrassed by the outline presented by Boehner, Ryan said: ?I was concerned that this impression would have been made in the media, which was people would think that this document that was put out last Thursday was our budget and it?s not.?

I'm sure when asked what the Republican alternative is, a response similar to: "Uhhhhh, uhhhh, buhhhhhh, buhhhh, lower taxes?" Is about all they can come up with.

:roll:

 

shadow9d9

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Shouldn't be surprised... it was their plan the last 8 years and they doubled the deficit with it.
 

Siddhartha

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I remember reading, a couple of weeks ago, about a GOP plan to aid economy recovery by reducing business taxes.

Thinking back I can not remember any economic plans that were proposed by the minority party.
 

Lemon law

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In terms of the GOP being basically chicken little in saying the sky is falling and the democratic budgets endanger FUTURE prosperity,
its hard the believe a word the GOP says when they have been the very TURKEYS who screwed up PRESENT prosperity.

Add in no details, and its just more hot air signifying nothing.
 

Balt

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Are you suggesting that simply putting "Lower taxes and balance the budget" on a piece of paper isn't an actual budget? Nonsense. :p
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.
 

Red Dawn

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Another whiney little post from the pillow of: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? It's too much like work.
:roll:

 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

Are you saying that the GOP has nothing to gain by providing an actual economic plan and that it enough for them to attack Mr Obama and his plans?
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

Are you saying that the GOP has nothing to gain by providing an actual economic plan and that it enough for them to attack Mr Obama and his plans?

What do they have to gain?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

Are you saying that the GOP has nothing to gain by providing an actual economic plan and that it enough for them to attack Mr Obama and his plans?

What do they have to gain?
Credibility

 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Another whiney little post from the pillow of: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? It's too much like work.
:roll:

It's only hundreds of man-hours to create such a document. :roll:
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

Are you saying that the GOP has nothing to gain by providing an actual economic plan and that it enough for them to attack Mr Obama and his plans?

What do they have to gain?
Credibility

From you? I'm sure that's a possibility. :laugh:
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

Are you saying that the GOP has nothing to gain by providing an actual economic plan and that it enough for them to attack Mr Obama and his plans?

What do they have to gain?

Credibility. Believe me they need some.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

Are you saying that the GOP has nothing to gain by providing an actual economic plan and that it enough for them to attack Mr Obama and his plans?

What do they have to gain?

Credibility. Believe me they need some.

As if Zero and his media minions won't say the same thing anyway.

 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

Are you saying that the GOP has nothing to gain by providing an actual economic plan and that it enough for them to attack Mr Obama and his plans?

What do they have to gain?
Credibility

I was talking to a Republican about this last night. He asked what would the Republicans be doing right now about the economy if they had won the White House and control of Congress.

I said the same thing the Democrats are doing. Except they would not be talking about raising taxes.
 

Carmen813

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Details are supposed to be announced this Wednesday. However, considering they are suggesting a tax cut of 12% for the wealthiest people in the country, I anticipate massive cuts everywhere except military spending. At least I hope that is what they are planning.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

nothing to look at anyways!
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

Are you saying that the GOP has nothing to gain by providing an actual economic plan and that it enough for them to attack Mr Obama and his plans?

actually what he is saying is that by the time he is old enough to vote the Democrats will have been in power for at least 3 terms....
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

Are you saying that the GOP has nothing to gain by providing an actual economic plan and that it enough for them to attack Mr Obama and his plans?

What do they have to gain?

Credibility. Believe me they need some.

As if Zero and his media minions won't say the same thing anyway.

The point isn't to convince the Dem faithful, it's to convince the middle. You can't do that by doing absolutely nothing.

I assume the Republicans are hoping to make substantial gains in 2010. To do that they need to present a credible alternative, not just a short document about lowering taxes and balancing the budget with no details on how they hope to accomplish it.

Some people can get away with speaking mostly about concepts rather than methods (many would say that about Obama), but Boehner isn't one of them.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

Are you saying that the GOP has nothing to gain by providing an actual economic plan and that it enough for them to attack Mr Obama and his plans?

What do they have to gain?
Credibility

I was talking to a Republican about this last night. He asked what would the Republicans be doing right now about the economy if they had won the White House and control of Congress.

I said the same thing the Democrats are doing. Except they would not be talking about raising taxes.

exactly!!! Funny thing is they would raise taxes in secret.....lol
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Carmen813
Details are supposed to be announced this Wednesday. However, considering they are suggesting a tax cut of 12% for the wealthiest people in the country, I anticipate massive cuts everywhere except military spending. At least I hope that is what they are planning.

Would that be a reduction of 12%, 25% to 22%, or a reduction down to 13%?
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Carmen813
Details are supposed to be announced this Wednesday. However, considering they are suggesting a tax cut of 12% for the wealthiest people in the country, I anticipate massive cuts everywhere except military spending. At least I hope that is what they are planning.

No, they proposed a freeze. Of course, if everything that isn't a 12% hike is considered a 'massive cut', that's your terminology problem.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Let me just say this one thing: If you're going to oppose Obama's budget proposal and bash Congressional Democrats for spending too much, then for the love of god, come up with an alternate plan with actual details.

Why? Your heroes aren't going to look at it anyway.

Are you saying that the GOP has nothing to gain by providing an actual economic plan and that it enough for them to attack Mr Obama and his plans?

What do they have to gain?
Credibility

I was talking to a Republican about this last night. He asked what would the Republicans be doing right now about the economy if they had won the White House and control of Congress.

I said the same thing the Democrats are doing. Except they would not be talking about raising taxes.

exactly!!! Funny thing is they would raise taxes in secret.....lol

Didn't both Mr Reagan and GWH Bush raise taxes?
 

Thump553

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Saying no detail really understates this pathetic excuse for a budget. It literally contains no numbers at all-with one exception. The exception is that the GOP wants to renew the GWB tax cut for the wealthy and then double down on it-ie, increase the tax cut for the top brackets twice as much again as Bush did.