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Republican government shutdown 2025 v2.0

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You talk a big game for being afraid of the Shopping Cart Mafia.

You can be ready without abandoning politics.

Unlike you I've been assaulted by MAGA and told to get the fuck out of the country.

My broken septum actually needed 2 surgeries to fix.. the second of which was last monday.

So yeah I'm definitely not up for being nice to MAGA.

I want my pound of flesh.
 
Unlike you I've been assaulted by MAGA and told to get the fuck out of the country.

My broken septum actually needed 2 surgeries to fix.. the second of which was last monday.

So yeah I'm definitely not up for being nice to MAGA.

I want my pound of flesh.
Sorry you've gone through that, but starting a series of blue violent actions under some sort of blue authoritarian isn't going to make things better.
 
Sorry you've gone through that, but starting a series of blue violent actions under some sort of blue authoritarian isn't going to make things better.

That's where I disagree because it's not the first time someone came up a banishment from the homeland as a penalty historically.

The earth is a big place.. they can find another country where they can create their perfect homeland instead of being intent on destroying it for everyone else.

To ignore the problem is insanity - you know where you try the same thing again and again and expect different results!

Oh and maybe it'll teach them the value of asylum...
 
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That's where I disagree because it's not the first time someone came up a banishment from the homeland as a penalty historically.

The earth is a big place.. they can find another country where they can create their perfect homeland instead of being intent on destroying it for everyone else.

To ignore the problem is insanity - you know where you try the same thing again and again and expect different results!

Oh and maybe it'll teach them the value of asylum...
What could go wrong if you concentrate a bunch of violent bigots who want to subjugate their neighbors somewhere else? Surely they'll be content to live in peace and not violently blame external people for their newfound failed society.
 
What could go wrong if you concentrate a bunch of violent bigots who want to subjugate their neighbors somewhere else? Surely they'll be content to live in peace and not violently blame external people for their newfound failed society.

Can't be any worse than present day Israel.
 
They're not American citizens though.

They're citizens of Fuckheadistan and should be deported to Fuckheadistan!

Once someone becomes a citizen.. they cease functioning as responsible citizens of America.

That's my problem with organized religions too.. I'm not racist.. I'm anti fuckheadist.
A bit early to be hitting the bottle this hard.
 
Last week one of our clients brought their lobbyist to a meeting. The lobbyist served in the first Trump administration and is very well connected to the current administration and said that when the current CR expires that a second shutdown is pretty much guaranteed. The administration liked the way the last one went, not because the Dems caved but because the administration liked it when Johnson shutdown the House. While this is all speculation, the speculation came from a source closer to the administration. I assign some credit to the person because there were a few oddly specific and technical EOs that couldn't have possibly have been written by Trump or anyone in his cabinet and given this person's client list, I'm pretty sure where those EOs came from.
 
Last week one of our clients brought their lobbyist to a meeting. The lobbyist served in the first Trump administration and is very well connected to the current administration and said that when the current CR expires that a second shutdown is pretty much guaranteed. The administration liked the way the last one went, not because the Dems caved but because the administration liked it when Johnson shutdown the House. While this is all speculation, the speculation came from a source closer to the administration. I assign some credit to the person because there were a few oddly specific and technical EOs that couldn't have possibly have been written by Trump or anyone in his cabinet and given this person's client list, I'm pretty sure where those EOs came from.

Yep. This allows them to rule by executive order and the rest of the day to day details are handled by his Knights of the Clown Table.
 
Last week one of our clients brought their lobbyist to a meeting. The lobbyist served in the first Trump administration and is very well connected to the current administration and said that when the current CR expires that a second shutdown is pretty much guaranteed. The administration liked the way the last one went, not because the Dems caved but because the administration liked it when Johnson shutdown the House. While this is all speculation, the speculation came from a source closer to the administration. I assign some credit to the person because there were a few oddly specific and technical EOs that couldn't have possibly have been written by Trump or anyone in his cabinet and given this person's client list, I'm pretty sure where those EOs came from.

I'm glad that he's embracing a strategy that polls worse than cost of living and Epstein for him. Many people were saying it couldn't be done.

 
Remind the class, what was the shutdown regarding?
Oh yeah... whether or not Republicans get to royally screw over the healthcare of the American people.
Christmas came early for Republicans!

Republicans Filibuster Bill Averting Health Care Premium Hikes Next Year

The 51-48 vote capped a bitter months-long battle in Congress over health care that included the longest government shutdown in U.S. history. In exchange for voting to reopen the government last month, a group of moderate Democrats received assurances that they’d at least get a chance to vote to extend the subsidies, which lapse at the end of the year. As many Democrats foresaw at the time, it went nowhere.
 
How could the Republicans that have historically always broken their word just up and break their word like this?!?!
-Dems
Would things be better or worse right now if some people didn't fold? Republicans clearly signaled that they gave zero shits about SNAP and federal workers pay, even when they faced massive election losses. Johnson wasn't bringing the House back, and Thune wasn't really budging on his positions.

In some ways, Democrats got what they could get when they don't hold the levers of power: some big electoral wins, followed by Republicans taking tons of heat. Then we also got the Epstein vote, which was being held up; and Republicans are going to take even more blame as the subsidies evaporate and they play "the dog are our homework" as Trump brags about their healthcare plans.
 
Would things be better or worse right now if some people didn't fold? Republicans clearly signaled that they gave zero shits about SNAP and federal workers pay, even when they faced massive election losses. Johnson wasn't bringing the House back, and Thune wasn't really budging on his positions.

In some ways, Democrats got what they could get when they don't hold the levers of power: some big electoral wins, followed by Republicans taking tons of heat. Then we also got the Epstein vote, which was being held up; and Republicans are going to take even more blame as the subsidies evaporate and they play "the dog are our homework" as Trump brags about their healthcare plans.
The GoP doesn't give a shit about people on snap but the mega donors like walmart that get like 25% of that Snap spending is a very different matter. The business class was also throwing a fit at the state of flights. The GoP was absolutely going to blink in a couple more weeks at the rate it was going, albeit for all the wrong reasons.
 
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