Republican comments on 11 year old being raped.

[jackschmittusa]

An insult to the victim and an insult to men. The idea that men are so feeble minded that they can be instantly turned into multiple felony committing maniacs by the mere sight of an attractive female is a serious putdown on men.

The guys involved were already FUBAR as civilized people.

I enjoy getting laid as much as anyone, but I have never felt that I was a heartbeat away from raping all of the women that I find attractive.

And Rep. Kathleen Passidomo made it perfectly clear that the onus is on women to camouflage themselves from the uncontrollable lust of men. "show up in proper attire so what happened in Texas doesn’t happen to our students." Improper attire (by her standards) = rape.

 

[Throckmorton]

I can't believe people are defending this...

 

[Jaskalas]

Wow. Im not reading it as "victim brought it upon herself". At all.

You are the american taliban. How does it feel?

Hmm... victim card may be too soft. This is seething hatred. It's no card, but a blind feeding frenzy. Ignorance with hatred, and you call people Taliban.

 

[JSt0rm]

Hmm... victim card may be too soft. This is seething hatred. It's no card, but a blind feeding frenzy. Ignorance with hatred, and you call people Taliban.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Meanwhile...the world turns as my guitar gently weeps.

 

[blackangst1]

Don't dress like a 21 year old prostitute and what happened in Texas, will NOT happen to you - do you at least agree on this part? It's EXACTLY what she said.

From the original article published by the NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/us/09assault.html?_r=2&sq=assault%20texas&st=cse&adxnnl=1&scp=1&adxnnlx=1299783664-r7N5+ffr9tcyvPUzMFvogA

Residents in the neighborhood where the abandoned trailer stands — known as the Quarters — said the victim had been visiting various friends there for months. They said she dressed older than her age, wearing makeup and fashions more appropriate to a woman in her 20s.

I agree she put in prostitute AFAI can tell, which is inappropriate. But her point was taken by the original article, from the defendants.

edit: oops, Doc Savage Fan already quoted it.

 

[blackangst1]

Outrage makes us feel good. And it's a slow news day. And I guarantee people will come in here claiming there is absolutely a connection between dress and sexual assault.

As much as I may disagree with many posters here, I beg to differ. I really dont think anyone thinks this little girl had it coming.;

 

[blackangst1]

You are the american taliban. How does it feel?

Coming from you? Like a pesky gnat easily swooshed away by the brush of a hand

 

[JSt0rm]

Coming from you? Like a pesky gnat easily swooshed away by the brush of a hand

Yes of course. Whatever I am is irrelevant. It is you and your mentality that matters here. Enjoy your prison.

 

[blackangst1]

Yes of course. Whatever I am is irrelevant. It is you and your mentality that matters here. Enjoy your prison.

And what mentality is that? That you and I assuredly agree on the brutality of this tradgedy?

 

[JSt0rm]

And what mentality is that? That you and I assuredly agree on the brutality of this tradgedy?

Dont be obtuse. You think that how women dress dictates if they will be raped.

 

[werepossum]

From the original article published by the NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/us/09assault.html?_r=2&sq=assault%20texas&st=cse&adxnnl=1&scp=1&adxnnlx=1299783664-r7N5+ffr9tcyvPUzMFvogA



I agree she put in prostitute AFAI can tell, which is inappropriate. But her point was taken by the original article, from the defendants.

edit: oops, Doc Savage Fan already quoted it.

The Representative has a point, but it was an awfully stupid thing to say. Allowing an 11 year old to dress like that, and much more importantly the freedom to behave as an adult (however irresponsible an adult) is a horrible thing, and it leads to things like this happening, but the actual clothing itself is almost certainly barely related to the gang rape. A group of young males willing to gang rape someone would no doubt have no problems doing so to an 11 year old wearing a burga if they saw the appropriate bulges in it.

 

[Lifted]

"There was an article about an 11 year old girl who was gangraped in Texas by 18 young men..."

At least she called them young men and not savages. THAT would have crossed the line.

 

[shortylickens]

In principle I agree. A lot of young girls are sexualizing themselves way too young.
Many are sucking at 12, fucking at 13, trying anal well before 18, orgies too. And their dress usually coincides with their sexual activity.
Theres about a dozen books on Amazon right now explaining in detail why all of this is bad. Even if they arent actually active in sex, slutting themselves up causes way more harm than good.

BUT, that was cold and callous for a politician to say and also accomplishes nothing except hate, discontent, and anger.
Fucking stupid.

 

[blackangst1]

Dont be obtuse. You think that how women dress dictates if they will be raped.

$1000 paypal'd to ya if you can quote me on that.

Or anything close.

Shoosh-

BTW have you stopped raping your brother yet?

 

[blackangst1]

The Representative has a point, but it was an awfully stupid thing to say. Allowing an 11 year old to dress like that, and much more importantly the freedom to behave as an adult (however irresponsible an adult) is a horrible thing, and it leads to things like this happening, but the actual clothing itself is almost certainly barely related to the gang rape. A group of young males willing to gang rape someone would no doubt have no problems doing so to an 11 year old wearing a burga if they saw the appropriate bulges in it.

Agree. Thus, why I posted,

I agree she put in prostitute AFAI can tell, which is inappropriate. But her point was taken by the original article, from the defendants.

 

[Kadarin]

The Burqa isn't some crazy Muslim thing. Ok, the Burqa itself is, but the idea behind it comes from a widespread sentiment that exists across many cultures/religions. Although not as extreme, these sentiments regarding Female Attire are not much different than those of the Taliban.

And we all know that forcing women to wear burqas has COMPLETELY solved the problem of rape in the countries that require it.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Not deseved, but caused. The implication is if she wasn't dressed that way, it wouldn't have happened. You can reasonably draw this implication b/c the woman is advocating for modest dress codes to prevent rapes, drawing a direct line between clothing choice and sexual assault.

That's an implication that you choose to draw without any basis. Show us that she definitively meant that. You don't even have anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

Let me guess you don't have a daughter do you? The facts are that in certain situations the way a girl dresses does have an influence on how she's treated. That doesn't make it right, but it is. Now you can pretend it doesn't, but that's life.

My daughter is graduating from high school in a far safer place than that described, yet she has told me that the girls who dress more provocatively have more inappropriate advances.

Now if you want to let her go anywhere and do anything in complete ignorant bliss, be my guess. Please don't report back if she gets shit.

Now clothing doesn't influence people's behavior eh? Let's suggest an experiment. I'll assume you are white. Go into an inner city bar on a hot Friday or Saturday night, sit down and have a drink. Get up and leave, then put on full Klan regalia. Sit down and have a drink again.

Let us know if you are received any differently.

Get out more in the world.

 

[sandorski]

And we all know that forcing women to wear burqas has COMPLETELY solved the problem of rape in the countries that require it.

Indeed.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Indeed.

What's incredible is the remarkable naivete of people. The lack of understanding how humans can act is astounding.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

My daughter is graduating from high school in a far safer place than that described, yet she has told me that the girls who dress more provocatively have more inappropriate advances.

Oh give me a break. To 99% of women an "inappropriate advance" is being approached by any man she's not immediately attracted to.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Oh give me a break. To 99% of women an "inappropriate advance" is being approached by any man she's not immediately attracted to.

How old is your daughter?

BTW I was being overly delicate perhaps. She was talking about things like groping.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

How old is your daughter?

BTW I was being overly delicate perhaps. She was talking about things like groping.

I don't have a daughter. I'm not doubting that women who dress provocatively do find themselves in sketchy positions more often - that seems intuitively obvious. I'm just very skeptical of young women's self-described "inappropriate advances". Clearly groping does fall into that category though.

 

[simplyvargas]

I was truly surprised to see that only a couple people were educated enough in the subject of rape to at least recognize that this sad situation has more to do with an aspect of control and power than an 11 year old child dressing "inappropriately" for her age.

What the small time politician said was very ignorant, and sadly inaccurate...but I have learned that politicians are not the smartest people not even the most politically correct. Sadly politicians are a reflection of the voting public and society.

No human ever deserves to be raped...no child at 11 is looking to be raped. No one wants to be taken advantage of in such an atrocious way. I hope people stop undermining this child and her situation by implying this is some kind of small or normal experience for a girl who dresses older than her age.

 

[simplyvargas]

An insult to the victim and an insult to men. The idea that men are so feeble minded that they can be instantly turned into multiple felony committing maniacs by the mere sight of an attractive female is a serious putdown on men.

And Rep. Kathleen Passidomo made it perfectly clear that the onus is on women to camouflage themselves from the uncontrollable lust of men. "show up in proper attire so what happened in Texas doesn’t happen to our students." Improper attire (by her standards) = rape.

I like how Passidomo and others find it important to tell women to control the way they dress and to dress modestly yet there isn't a campaign dedicated to teach men that rape is wrong!? Thank you for pointing out that rape is not the result of a woman being attractive it is more complex and dangerous than that.