Republican Bereuter says Iraq war was wrong

[dullard]

Link. It takes a lot of guts to change your mind and publically admit it. I applaud any politician on either side who speaks what he/she truly feels and not what he/she is told to say.

 

[Todd33]

Flip-flopper!

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Flip-flopper!

It is NOT flip-flopping if new relevant information comes and with that new information you change your mind. It is flip-flopping if no new information comes and you change your mind (for example if a poll shows you will do better by changing your mind).

 

[Todd33]

I was being sarcastic

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: dullard
Link. It takes a lot of guts to change your mind and publically admit it. I applaud any politician on either side who speaks what he/she truly feels and not what he/she is told to say.

Good for him. :thumbsup:

It will be sad to see what Rush and Hannity as well as CAD & Co will say about him.

PS - I heard one talk show host today say and admit Kerry has a chance and it "scares him to death", Neal Boortz.

I hope old Neal manages to stay among the living after Kerry is elected, for the most part he is OK. Not quite a hard core NeoCon. He used to call himself a Libertarian.

 

[jdbolick]

I think this is great. It's sad that so many politicians feel like they can't speak their minds unless they're soon leaving office. Congress has largely always been a place where members are bullied to go along with the party leadership, but it seems to me like we'd be better served if individuals actually thought for themselves instead of acting like rubber stamps.

I bet that post confounds the hell out of you, dmcowen674.

 

[1EZduzit]

Kind of makes one wonder how many other congessman are afraid to speak their mind, doesn't it.

 

[jdbolick]

I suppose that's the nature of politics. People who speak their minds freely tend to be out of politics, either volutarily or unvolutarily, before long.

 

[1EZduzit]

LOL, you mean professional politics. We have plenty of politics going on here and EVERYBODY seems to be speaking their mind.

 

[Gaard]

Shall we take bets on when the smear campaign begins?

 

[jdbolick]

Begins? Either you haven't been paying attention or you just haven't been on the receiving end. Once my scarlet R went up, several have been tossing the tar and feathers, albeit ineffectively.

 

[conjur]

Wow...how many conservatives does this make that are critical of Bush and have gone so far as to outright change their opinion of the war?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...how many conservatives does this make that are critical of Bush and have gone so far as to outright change their opinion of the war?

And one wonders why kerry says he still would have voted for the war even knowing what we know today. Go figure...

dazed and confused is his only alibi

CkG

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

The operative word here is retiring Republican congressman. Unfortunately I doubt he would have been so forthcoming if he still had a career to look out for.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...how many conservatives does this make that are critical of Bush and have gone so far as to outright change their opinion of the war?

And one wonders why kerry says he still would have voted for the war even knowing what we know today. Go figure...

dazed and confused is his only alibi

CkG

One wonders why you still wonder why given how many times this point has been discussed.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...how many conservatives does this make that are critical of Bush and have gone so far as to outright change their opinion of the war?

And one wonders why kerry says he still would have voted for the war even knowing what we know today. Go figure...

dazed and confused is his only alibi

CkG

Correct me if i am wrong, but he never voted FOR the war, did he?

He voted for the ability to use war as the last resort given the (false) evidence presented, did he not?

I may very well be wrong here, i don't know that much about US internal politics and i really don't care either.

 

[MidasKnight]

Originally posted by: DonVito
The operative word here is retiring Republican congressman. Unfortunately I doubt he would have been so forthcoming if he still had a career to look out for.

Agreed.


Maybe an axe to grind ?

Rep. Ray LaHood, R-Illinois, a member of the intelligence committee, described Bereuter as "very bitter" for having been passed over in recent years to head both the intelligence and international relations committees. He suggested Bereuter's comments were a parting shot to House GOP leaders and President Bush.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: MidasKnight

Maybe an axe to grind ?

Rep. Ray LaHood, R-Illinois, a member of the intelligence committee, described Bereuter as "very bitter" for having been passed over in recent years to head both the intelligence and international relations committees. He suggested Bereuter's comments were a parting shot to House GOP leaders and President Bush.

Hmmmmm - I honestly have no idea about the historical background here, and it may also be that Rep LaHood's statement is just a nasty, unfair snipe intended to discredit Bereuter. I don't know anything about either man.

 

[NeoV]

Wait till Rove gets a hook into him

 

[MidasKnight]

and it may also be that Rep LaHood's statement is just a nasty, unfair snipe intended to discredit Bereute

That could be very true as well.

The fact of the matter is we are there and with Bush or Kerry as next President we need to get Iraq on it's own as soon as possible. And with both sides ( Dem/Rep ) working together to meet that goal.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...how many conservatives does this make that are critical of Bush and have gone so far as to outright change their opinion of the war?

And one wonders why kerry says he still would have voted for the war even knowing what we know today. Go figure...

dazed and confused is his only alibi

CkG

Correct me if i am wrong, but he never voted FOR the war, did he?

He voted for the ability to use war as the last resort given the (false) evidence presented, did he not?

I may very well be wrong here, i don't know that much about US internal politics and i really don't care either.

Buahahaha - it's funny how the left(and conjur - the leftist who claims to be a Republican) tries to explain away his vote on this. If you want to live in your little fantasy world and think it wasn't a vote for action against Saddam - then be my guest.
But yes, he did recently say that his vote would be the same today knowing what we know now.

CkG

 

[Todd33]

I suggest you read the resolution, it was not a war declaration and Bush was supposed to get a second UN resolution. I guess the devil is in the details, but sometimes governmenting is hard.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Todd33
I suggest you read the resolution, it was not a war declaration and Bush was supposed to get a second UN resolution. I guess the devil is in the details, but sometimes governmenting is hard.

I have read it - many times. kerry can try to nuance all he wants but it doesn't change what the vote meant. Some people want to play this little naive game but we all knew the reality of that resolution, and so did he.

But anyway, it should be interesting to see how this sour grapes thing pans out - if that is the "why" of it.

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

dp two minute later

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Todd33
I suggest you read the resolution, it was not a war declaration and Bush was supposed to get a second UN resolution. I guess the devil is in the details, but sometimes governmenting is hard.

I have read it - many times. kerry can try to nuance all he wants but it doesn't change what the vote meant. Some people want to play this little naive game but we all knew the reality of that resolution, and so did he.

But anyway, it should be interesting to see how this sour grapes thing pans out - if that is the "why" of it.

CkG

Ignorance is bliss means you're one happy s.o.b., CkG.

No matter how many times you say it, your opinion is still wrong.