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thedosbox said:
Unless the two of you live in the same area, I wouldn't rely on senttoschool's advice. Quality of wireless service is going to vary drastically dependent on your location.



If your relationship success is dependent on SMS, you're doing it wrong.
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Nah, it's easier than you think. Imagine your gf wants to see you and tries to call and text but you don't receive any of it. Now imagine this happening frequently. It's definitely an igniter to fights.

Also, I'm not an old fart like many here. We use text to communicate because it's very convenient to check up on each other since we don't live in the same city.

Also, I live in San Francisco and around the Bay Area, the tech capital of the world. You would think sprint can get their act together here.

I used an old ass iphone 3G(second iPhone ever) on AT&T and still had far better internet than sprints lte and much better reception.
 
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Speed test I just did in San Francisco. This is the best sprint 3G can do when it actually works.

It's not even so much the speed. I'm willing to wait for things to load but it's the many dead zones that leave you stranded without Internet that irks me. For example, in many parts of downtown San Francisco, sprint internet just doesn't work. Can't even send out txt.

Sprint doesn't give a damn about quality right now. They have been left in the dust in tower upgrades compared to AT&T and Verizon. All they have to sell you on now is their "unlimited" which complete crap. They overload their towers with users. I fell for it.
 
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That is awful. It's mysterious though how it gets a decent ping. (~100ms)

Edit: In San Francisco no less!
 
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senttoschool said:
Nah, it's easier than you think. Imagine your gf wants to see you and tries to call and text but you don't receive any of it. Now imagine this happening frequently. It's definitely an igniter to fights.

Also, I'm not an old fart like many here. We use text to communicate because it's very convenient to check up on each other since we don't live in the same city.
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Yes, no old farts successfully managed long distance relationships before the advent of texting. So of course, it must be Sprint's fault. Riiiiight.

Just be thankful it didn't work out. After all, if you couldn't get past silly technical problems like this, god knows how the two of you would handle more serious crisis.
 
thedosbox said:
Yes, no old farts successfully managed long distance relationships before the advent of texting. So of course, it must be Sprint's fault. Riiiiight.

Just be thankful it didn't work out. After all, if you couldn't get past silly technical problems like this, god knows how the two of you would handle more serious crisis.
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There goes the internet, jumping to conclusions. All I said was Sprint contributed to my relationship problem. Nothing more, nothing else. What are you trying to tell me? That I'm not perfect? That Sprint didn't contribute to my relationship problems?

Ignore a few phone calls or texts(if you have people texting you) and see how fast people get angry at you.
 
senttoschool said:
There goes the internet, jumping to conclusions. All I said was Sprint contributed to my relationship problem. Nothing more, nothing else. What are you trying to tell me? That I'm not perfect? That Sprint didn't contribute to my relationship problems?

Ignore a few phone calls or texts(if you have people texting you) and see how fast people get angry at you.
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Right, because phone calls and texts are the only way to get hold of people. Anyhow, good luck with your next relationship. Hopefully with someone a bit more mature.
 
thedosbox said:
Right, because phone calls and texts are the only way to get hold of people. Anyhow, good luck with your next relationship. Hopefully with someone a bit more mature.
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Well, can you tell me any other modern way to get a hold of someone without phone call/text? AOL Instant Message?
 
senttoschool said:
http://img.pixady.com/image_64.jpg

Speed test I just did in San Francisco. This is the best sprint 3G can do when it actually works.

It's not even so much the speed. I'm willing to wait for things to load but it's the many dead zones that leave you stranded without Internet that irks me. For example, in many parts of downtown San Francisco, sprint internet just doesn't work. Can't even send out txt.

Sprint doesn't give a damn about quality right now. They have been left in the dust in tower upgrades compared to AT&T and Verizon. All they have to sell you on now is their "unlimited" which complete crap. They overload their towers with users. I fell for it.
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This is about average for what I get on Sprint 3G in Palos Verdes (Los Angeles area) on 1-2 signal bars:

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T-Mobile: no signal
ATT: no signal
Verizon: sometimes get a 3G signal here at home, but no signal at our kids' school

Sprint & Verizon at least let you talk. With T-Mobile & ATT, you may as well use string and 2 cups.
 
Apex said:
This is about average for what I get on Sprint 3G in Palos Verdes (Los Angeles area) on 1-2 signal bars:

sprint3gpv.jpg


T-Mobile: no signal
ATT: no signal
Verizon: sometimes get a 3G signal here at home, but no signal at our kids' school

Sprint & Verizon at least let you talk. With T-Mobile & ATT, you may as well use string and 2 cups.
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Have you tested all 4 carriers on the same spot?

Here's PCMag's test of Northern California. Sprint is lagging so far behind. It's not even funny.

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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2420333,00.asp

You can go with Sprint if you want. But it's simply an inferior product that will leave you frustrated often. I'd rather have 2GB a month than unlimited Sprint any day. Can't wait until I'm out of my contract.
 
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I travel a lot to London, Paris, Hong Kong, Perth and Mumbai. I end up buying prepaid phones for a few dollars that have monochrome display and can only call and text... i wonder if this phone will work overseas.. the wikipedia pages says that it has GSM bands but they are locked out!.. i don't know what that means...is it the american bands that are blocked or all GSM bands?
 
senttoschool said:
Have you tested all 4 carriers on the same spot?

You can go with Sprint if you want. But it's simply an inferior product that will leave you frustrated often. I'd rather have 2GB a month than unlimited Sprint any day. Can't wait until I'm out of my contract.
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Yep, exactly same place. My home, office, kids schools.

What you should get always comes down to where you live. That's why the "this sucks" or "that sucks" you hear on this forum is always completely useless without knowing where the person lives. Mobile network choice always, ALWAYS comes down to where you plan to use it.

openwheel said:
Sprint also has bad building penetration. Or so I heard.
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Lower the frequency, the better the building penetration.

Sprint runs 800mhz & 1900Mhz. Select Sprint phones run only on 1900Mhz and have terrible building penetration. For the majority of them that are on both bands, penetration is class leading.

Verizon & AT&T run primarily on 850Mhz, which is excellent as well.

T-Mobile runs on 1700Mhz & 2100Mhz (plus 1900mhz for 2G), and cannot penetrate walls worth beans.
 
Apex said:
Yep, exactly same place. My home, office, kids schools.

What you should get always comes down to where you live. That's why the "this sucks" or "that sucks" you hear on this forum is always completely useless without knowing where the person lives. Mobile network choice always, ALWAYS comes down to where you plan to use it.



Lower the frequency, the better the building penetration.

Sprint runs 800mhz & 1900Mhz. Select Sprint phones run only on 1900Mhz and have terrible building penetration. For the majority of them that are on both bands, penetration is class leading.

Verizon & AT&T run primarily on 850Mhz, which is excellent as well.



T-Mobile runs on 1700Mhz & 2100Mhz (plus 1900mhz for 2G), and cannot penetrate walls worth beans.
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Well, that explains why Sprint is sometimes unusable inside a building while AT&T never had that problem.

One more speed test. This is Sprint LTE with 4 bars around San Francisco downtown.


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Uggh. I'm still so on the fence about this. On one hand, I want to stick with Straight Talk and grab a new SIM with 4G LTE, along with a Nexus 5 sometime in the near future.

On the other hand... the $25/mo price tag for Republic Wireless is hard to ignore. But then I'm stuck with a phone, stuck with crappy Sprint coverage, stuck with CDMA.

Still leaning toward the former, but man this is tempting.
 
senttoschool said:
You can go with Sprint if you want. But it's simply an inferior product that will leave you frustrated often. I'd rather have 2GB a month than unlimited Sprint any day. Can't wait until I'm out of my contract.
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I'm in SF too, and just recently left Sprint for Tmobile because Sprint does suck here. For some reason the network vision project is stalled in SF. Coverage and speed outside of SF and Berkeley in the bay area seems to be improving.

If the time left on your contract is over 6 months long and Sprint ever gets Network vision back on track, by the time you can leave Sprint, you might not want to.

But since my contract was up and I didn't feel like waiting, I jumped ship to Tmobile.
 
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Friends and roommate has Sprint in the South Bay and they never complain about their service.

I'm on Verizon with a grandfathered unlimited plan. Was thinking about jumping to sprint but having second thoughts now. I like Verizon's coverage but they're so f'in expensive. I also have an Iphone 4 thru work, while their network is continually getting better, I still get the occasional drop call, especially when I'm traveling.
 
Wish they offered an in between phone. The Moto X is vastly over kill for me but the beta DEFY XT has some annoying issues that sound like will never be fixed mainly getting it to hand off between wifi and cell during calls. I like the idea on the Moto X that you can switch plans up to twice a month so I could stick to the $10 no data plan the vast majority of the time and bump up to the $25 for a day when I need it. Don't want to pay $300 for a phone though even if it is a $600 phone normally.
 
Slick5150 said:
How the eff can they sell the phone w/o contract for $300 while it's $600 for any other variant of the phone???
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It's off contract, but it's locked to their service. Probably banking that you'll continue using their service instead of using the phone as the android equivalent of an ipod.
 
thedarkwolf said:
Wish they offered an in between phone. The Moto X is vastly over kill for me but the beta DEFY XT has some annoying issues that sound like will never be fixed mainly getting it to hand off between wifi and cell during calls. I like the idea on the Moto X that you can switch plans up to twice a month so I could stick to the $10 no data plan the vast majority of the time and bump up to the $25 for a day when I need it. Don't want to pay $300 for a phone though even if it is a $600 phone normally.
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Yeah.

Rationally, I should pick this up.

But $300 is a tough pill to swallow.

$200 would be much easier.
 
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