judasmachine
Diamond Member
- Sep 15, 2002
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During the campaign they aren't using their own words. They are coached and closely controlled by trianed PR people.
During the campaign they aren't using their own words. They are coached and closely controlled by trianed PR people.
- Oct 9, 1999
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My idols? I'm a right wing sycophant? Wow, good to know, I wasn't aware. Since you know so much about me, maybe you can enlighten me else as to what Republicans I've voted for.
I'll give you a hint. It's less than one, you dumb bastard. Don't feel bad, you're no dumber than the other leftist morons around here who assume that because I criticize Democrats that it makes me a Republican.
Jeff7
Lifer
- Jan 4, 2001
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This is probably because too many politicians' moronic statements have been aired on national TV. The Internet is not a dump truck, it's a series of tubes.
Many other places of employment have cameras. Congress should be no different, especially since they are public servants.
But there are still plenty of opportunities for them to do nothing, or to do sleazy things. I wish I could remember the specific event, but behind closed doors, a vote was cast for something, and at the end, there were more Republican votes counted than there were Republican voters.
I don't give a damn who's doing it, Republican or Democrat, both parties have plenty of sleazy idiots loitering around Washington.
Either that, or she's just trying to shoo the lobbyists off to quieter places, so they can work more efficiently (bigger payments to politicians).
Many other places of employment have cameras. Congress should be no different, especially since they are public servants.
But there are still plenty of opportunities for them to do nothing, or to do sleazy things. I wish I could remember the specific event, but behind closed doors, a vote was cast for something, and at the end, there were more Republican votes counted than there were Republican voters.
I don't give a damn who's doing it, Republican or Democrat, both parties have plenty of sleazy idiots loitering around Washington.
Either that, or she's just trying to shoo the lobbyists off to quieter places, so they can work more efficiently (bigger payments to politicians).
"My idols? I'm a right wing sycophant? Wow, good to know, I wasn't aware. Since you know so much about me, maybe you can enlighten me else as to what Republicans I've voted for.
I'll give you a hint. It's less than one, you dumb bastard. Don't feel bad, you're no dumber than the other leftist morons around here who assume that because I criticize Democrats that it makes me a Republican."
My mistake- maybe it just makes you not old enough to vote, or simply locked in the closet of your own mind, some sort of self-styled "libertarian". Your defense of the right fringe is obvious and ongoing, your topics pretty much rightwing thinktank trollery, like this one.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck, even if the bird in question lacks the level of self-awareness to make that determination.
I'll give you a hint. It's less than one, you dumb bastard. Don't feel bad, you're no dumber than the other leftist morons around here who assume that because I criticize Democrats that it makes me a Republican."
My mistake- maybe it just makes you not old enough to vote, or simply locked in the closet of your own mind, some sort of self-styled "libertarian". Your defense of the right fringe is obvious and ongoing, your topics pretty much rightwing thinktank trollery, like this one.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck, even if the bird in question lacks the level of self-awareness to make that determination.
yllus
Elite Member & Lifer
- Aug 20, 2000
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I can't see a single thing wrong with constant coverage of the House and Senate. It's the place that legislation gets passed or denied, that's all. It's not like representatives eat, sleep and fornicate in the area. There's no issue of privacy to hold this back.
One should also note that the British, Canadian and Australian Parliaments televise their proceedings without any restrictions on camera angle; Question Period allows the politicians to bicker back and forth freely, and the cameras capture it all. Nobody's died as a result yet.
One should also note that the British, Canadian and Australian Parliaments televise their proceedings without any restrictions on camera angle; Question Period allows the politicians to bicker back and forth freely, and the cameras capture it all. Nobody's died as a result yet.
JD50
Lifer
- Sep 4, 2005
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Sounds fair to me. As long as they (lawmakers) want to keep invading our privacy and take every penny that they possibly can from us, we should have the right to see everything that is going on in there. As another poster pointed it out, this is just where they work, it has nothing to do with their personal lives.
To those of you that are blindly defending the left on this one, why? Why are you opposed to seeing what our lawmakers, the people that we vote in to office and we pay, are doing while they are at work? In my opinion this should have been done a long time ago. If this thread was started by Techs and it was the Republicans refusing this you guys would be going on and on about how horrible the Republicans are, etc...
Its hilarious to see how hypocritical all of the liberals are, now that their people are starting to take over and they blindly defend every decision made.
So again I ask those of you opposed to this, why?
To those of you that are blindly defending the left on this one, why? Why are you opposed to seeing what our lawmakers, the people that we vote in to office and we pay, are doing while they are at work? In my opinion this should have been done a long time ago. If this thread was started by Techs and it was the Republicans refusing this you guys would be going on and on about how horrible the Republicans are, etc...
Its hilarious to see how hypocritical all of the liberals are, now that their people are starting to take over and they blindly defend every decision made.
So again I ask those of you opposed to this, why?
I didn't much give a damn one way or another, JD50, and apparently neither did the OP, until it became an attack opportunity- Only then does it take on any importance at all...
It's Pelosi's call, and she made the same call as her predecessor. The rightwing would simply have formulated a different attack if she'd taken the other choice...
Besides that, I doubt that any House members want those occasions when they need to scratch their crotch immortalized on videotape, then looped over and over on somebody's website... Given the huge legislative backlog left by the repubs, they don't need any additional image issues introduced to the agenda- they have lots of work to do...
It's Pelosi's call, and she made the same call as her predecessor. The rightwing would simply have formulated a different attack if she'd taken the other choice...
Besides that, I doubt that any House members want those occasions when they need to scratch their crotch immortalized on videotape, then looped over and over on somebody's website... Given the huge legislative backlog left by the repubs, they don't need any additional image issues introduced to the agenda- they have lots of work to do...
- Oct 9, 1999
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Wow, you are big an apologist as the right wing has ever seen.
They don't want to be bothered because they have so much work to do? My seven year old can come up with better excuses than that. "Please don't watch me clean my room, it's so much work and having you watch me makes it that much harder." :roll:
They don't want to be bothered because they have so much work to do? My seven year old can come up with better excuses than that. "Please don't watch me clean my room, it's so much work and having you watch me makes it that much harder." :roll:
Still trolling, BoberFett?
First, anybody defending Pelosi is a lefty shill, and now I'm a rightwing apologist? Can't have it both ways...
Or is the term "rightwing" a reference to your own perspective, an admission, some kind of Freudian slip?
First, anybody defending Pelosi is a lefty shill, and now I'm a rightwing apologist? Can't have it both ways...
Or is the term "rightwing" a reference to your own perspective, an admission, some kind of Freudian slip?
JD50
Lifer
- Sep 4, 2005
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I think he means that you are as big of an apoligist for the left as others are for the right. In the past, anyone on here that has even remotely defended anything that Bush or the Republicans have done has been labeled an apologist for the right, now you are doing that exact same thing for the left. Your reasons for not wanting this are silly, if the roles were reversed you and all the others defending this would be attacking.
Cogman
Lifer
- Sep 19, 2000
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Just to throw in my two cents, if the issue was not brought up, I probibly would not care about it, so in my eyes this is not that important.
Having said that, It is worrying that we cant see what the people who represent us are doing. Really why should the public be kept from seeing the proceedings of congress. Provided, what they vote on is the more important thing for us then what they say (Unless they are planning and plotting in the House).
I Don't think it is right, but I don't think this is a HUGE deal.
Having said that, It is worrying that we cant see what the people who represent us are doing. Really why should the public be kept from seeing the proceedings of congress. Provided, what they vote on is the more important thing for us then what they say (Unless they are planning and plotting in the House).
I Don't think it is right, but I don't think this is a HUGE deal.
So, apparently, the only place any work can be done is in the Capitol building. Reps can't work on legislation in their offices, hold important policy meetings, etc; they have to sit through every single one of their colleagues' speeches about issues that they may or may not be concerned about, so that the five people that watch CSPAN can see their faces so they can count attendance?
What kind of halfwit topic is this?
What kind of halfwit topic is this?
I'd put them on the same level, actually. They're all hopelessly stupid and should really be closed.
"What kind of halfwit topic is this?"
It's a troll, an attack oppportunity. No matter what Pelosi did in the situation, she'd have been "wrong".
This, and everything else coming from the wingnuts prior to the opening legislative session will simply be an effort to poison the well before Dems have their turn at it...
Basically, the Right isn't going to pass up any opportunity to embarrass themselves further, even though they don't, can't, see that...
Which is just as well. As this legislative session unfolds, more of the same should continuously remind voters just how petty and incompetent they've been all along...
It's a troll, an attack oppportunity. No matter what Pelosi did in the situation, she'd have been "wrong".
This, and everything else coming from the wingnuts prior to the opening legislative session will simply be an effort to poison the well before Dems have their turn at it...
Basically, the Right isn't going to pass up any opportunity to embarrass themselves further, even though they don't, can't, see that...
Which is just as well. As this legislative session unfolds, more of the same should continuously remind voters just how petty and incompetent they've been all along...
It would be nice to see what Bush is doing when sitting in the oval office.
We voted him into office and we pay his salary.
Are you in support of that or you oppose it, and if you oppose why?
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