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BOBDN

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Originally posted by: alchemize
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Guess BOOB get's bored when the facts start to come out.

""The claims made about our fuel delivery mission in Iraq are inaccurate, misleading and unwarranted," said Dave Lesar, chairman, president and chief executive officer, Halliburton. "KBR is successfully helping to deliver this needed resource to create some sense of normalcy for those who have suffered losses in Iraq. Halliburton is proud to offer our global resources at this critical time in the Middle East."

"the average cost for the mission is approximately $1.59 per gallon. This is less than the cost of a gallon of gas in either Washington, D.C. or California."

THIS is what you call "the facts"!!!!!

You blithering idiot. Halliburton is supplying fuel IN THE MIDDLE EAST, IN IRAQ! FUEL THERE IS 71 CENTS PER GALLON.

This isn't Washington DC or California. They are price gouging US taxpayers.

Only a complete fool would fall for such a ridiculous excuse such as this.
 

rchiu

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Heh, nobody will know the truth unless someone totally independent audits the whole process.

The problem with Halliburton and anything associated with this admin is, they don't have any credibility. What do you expect when you tell the world and the whole country that Iraq had so and so WMD and was such an incredible threat that warranted an all out invasion and all the killing, only to find out there isn't any WMD, not even one ounce of chemical or biological weapon.

So what happen when you don't have credibility? People question every thing you do. It is a fair game.
 

alchemize

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Your usual selective quoting again BOOB.

Through an open and competitive bid process, KBR awarded the fuel acquisition contracts to suppliers who could meet the very demanding requirements defined by the client, the United States Army Corps of Engineers. The requirements included the ability to acquire the necessary and large quantities of fuel on short notice and the ability and willingness to deliver it in a hostile environment.

So yes, if you back up a tanker truck to a Saudi gas station, you might get it for $.71 a gallon.

Then tell the driver that he has to drive 24 hours to deliver it overnight, oh and their might be folks with RPG's on the way when you get there (and by the way, if you get killed BOOB and PhillTim are gonna politicize and celebrate your death all over a message board), and I can understand why the price would go up.


You're right, it isn't Washington DC or California, it's a war zone.

PS: Blithering idiot. I'll add that to my "boob words" list.

Here's a napkin to wipe the spittle from your chin...
 

BOBDN

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Your usual selective quoting again BOOB.

Through an open and competitive bid process, KBR awarded the fuel acquisition contracts to suppliers who could meet the very demanding requirements defined by the client, the United States Army Corps of Engineers. The requirements included the ability to acquire the necessary and large quantities of fuel on short notice and the ability and willingness to deliver it in a hostile environment.

So yes, if you back up a tanker truck to a Saudi gas station, you might get it for $.71 a gallon.

Then tell the driver that he has to drive 24 hours to deliver it overnight, oh and their might be folks with RPG's on the way when you get there (and by the way, if you get killed BOOB and PhillTim are gonna politicize and celebrate your death all over a message board), and I can understand why the price would go up.


You're right, it isn't Washington DC or California, it's a war zone.

PS: Blithering idiot. I'll add that to my "boob words" list.

Here's a napkin to wipe the spittle from your chin...

That's total BULLSH!T. But what else can we expect from you?

Halliburton has the contract to provide fuel in Iraq on a no-bid contract wherein profits are to be limited, if I remember correctly, to between 3 and 7 percent. If they can't do the job give up the contract. Instead they price gouge American taxpayers and are in default of their contract.

And whose fault is it this is necessary in the first place? Who turned Iraq into a war zone?

Don't be ridiculous, as if you had a choice.

As for your claim again that anyone on this forum is celebrating the deaths of Americans you can go fvck yourself asshole.

YOU support the draft dodger who sent Americans to Iraq FOR NO REASON. The life of every American who dies in Iraq is on the head of the Bush administration and the traitors who support their illegal, immoral war.
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: alchemize
*Cricket* *Cricket*
Guess BOOB get's bored when the facts start to come out.

""The claims made about our fuel delivery mission in Iraq are inaccurate, misleading and unwarranted," said Dave Lesar, chairman, president and chief executive officer, Halliburton. "KBR is successfully helping to deliver this needed resource to create some sense of normalcy for those who have suffered losses in Iraq. Halliburton is proud to offer our global resources at this critical time in the Middle East."

"the average cost for the mission is approximately $1.59 per gallon. This is less than the cost of a gallon of gas in either Washington, D.C. or California."

THIS is what you call "the facts"!!!!!

You blithering idiot. Halliburton is supplying fuel IN THE MIDDLE EAST, IN IRAQ! FUEL THERE IS 71 CENTS PER GALLON.
That price isn't just for gasoline. Can't you read? Halliburton also arranged for the procurement of other types of fuel. But one might conclude that neither you nor your buddy Waxman took that into account.

This isn't Washington DC or California.
Right you are, there Bobby. There aren't jihad screaming extremists waiting around with RPGs in D.C or Cali.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: alchemize
Your usual selective quoting again BOOB.

Through an open and competitive bid process, KBR awarded the fuel acquisition contracts to suppliers who could meet the very demanding requirements defined by the client, the United States Army Corps of Engineers. The requirements included the ability to acquire the necessary and large quantities of fuel on short notice and the ability and willingness to deliver it in a hostile environment.

So yes, if you back up a tanker truck to a Saudi gas station, you might get it for $.71 a gallon.

Then tell the driver that he has to drive 24 hours to deliver it overnight, oh and their might be folks with RPG's on the way when you get there (and by the way, if you get killed BOOB and PhillTim are gonna politicize and celebrate your death all over a message board), and I can understand why the price would go up.


You're right, it isn't Washington DC or California, it's a war zone.

PS: Blithering idiot. I'll add that to my "boob words" list.

Here's a napkin to wipe the spittle from your chin...

That's total BULLSH!T. But what else can we expect from you?

Halliburton has the contract to provide fuel in Iraq on a no-bid contract wherein profits are to be limited, if I remember correctly, to between 3 and 7 percent. If they can't do the job give up the contract. Instead they price gouge American taxpayers and are in default of their contract.

And whose fault is it this is necessary in the first place? Who turned Iraq into a war zone?

Don't be ridiculous, as if you had a choice.

As for your claim again that anyone on this forum is celebrating the deaths of Americans you can go fvck yourself asshole.

YOU support the draft dodger who sent Americans to Iraq FOR NO REASON. The life of every American who dies in Iraq is on the head of the Bush administration and the traitors who support their illegal, immoral war.

Here's two or three napkins to wipe the spittle from your chin this time. You really made a mess with that one.

Halliburton has the contract to provide fuel in Iraq on a no-bid contract wherein profits are to be limited, if I remember correctly, to between 3 and 7 percent. If they can't do the job give up the contract. Instead they price gouge American taxpayers and are in default of their contract.

"Through an open and competitive bid process, KBR awarded the fuel acquisition contracts to suppliers who could meet the very demanding requirements defined by the client, the United States Army Corps of Engineers. "
Try again. They subcontracted. And it actually was competitively bidded. Anything would have been approved by the army. And the markup was 2%

"Contrary to what many have reported, the fuel mission is not limited to the procurement and delivery of gasoline only. KBR was tasked to procure and deliver a variety of fuels ranging from gasoline to liquid propane gas (LPG) to kerosene and diesel. The costs associated with this effort are not limited to the price of the fuel. The company incurs costs for transportation, storage, distribution, quality assurance, and labor required to manage the operation. Including these mentioned expenses as well as the price of the fuel and the company's two percent fee, the average cost for the mission is approximately $1.59 per gallon. "

Sounds like they are being pretty open and honest about it to me. I'll wait for an investigation or whatever, but I'm not the one that rabidly jumps to conclusions everytime some muckracker puts a story out.

PS: Didn't you mean the life of every stupid american solider?



 

BOBDN

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: alchemize
Your usual selective quoting again BOOB.

Through an open and competitive bid process, KBR awarded the fuel acquisition contracts to suppliers who could meet the very demanding requirements defined by the client, the United States Army Corps of Engineers. The requirements included the ability to acquire the necessary and large quantities of fuel on short notice and the ability and willingness to deliver it in a hostile environment.

So yes, if you back up a tanker truck to a Saudi gas station, you might get it for $.71 a gallon.

Then tell the driver that he has to drive 24 hours to deliver it overnight, oh and their might be folks with RPG's on the way when you get there (and by the way, if you get killed BOOB and PhillTim are gonna politicize and celebrate your death all over a message board), and I can understand why the price would go up.


You're right, it isn't Washington DC or California, it's a war zone.

PS: Blithering idiot. I'll add that to my "boob words" list.

Here's a napkin to wipe the spittle from your chin...

That's total BULLSH!T. But what else can we expect from you?

Halliburton has the contract to provide fuel in Iraq on a no-bid contract wherein profits are to be limited, if I remember correctly, to between 3 and 7 percent. If they can't do the job give up the contract. Instead they price gouge American taxpayers and are in default of their contract.

And whose fault is it this is necessary in the first place? Who turned Iraq into a war zone?

Don't be ridiculous, as if you had a choice.

As for your claim again that anyone on this forum is celebrating the deaths of Americans you can go fvck yourself asshole.

YOU support the draft dodger who sent Americans to Iraq FOR NO REASON. The life of every American who dies in Iraq is on the head of the Bush administration and the traitors who support their illegal, immoral war.

Here's two or three napkins to wipe the spittle from your chin this time. You really made a mess with that one.

Halliburton has the contract to provide fuel in Iraq on a no-bid contract wherein profits are to be limited, if I remember correctly, to between 3 and 7 percent. If they can't do the job give up the contract. Instead they price gouge American taxpayers and are in default of their contract.

"Through an open and competitive bid process, KBR awarded the fuel acquisition contracts to suppliers who could meet the very demanding requirements defined by the client, the United States Army Corps of Engineers. "
Try again. They subcontracted. And it actually was competitively bidded. Anything would have been approved by the army. And the markup was 2%

"Contrary to what many have reported, the fuel mission is not limited to the procurement and delivery of gasoline only. KBR was tasked to procure and deliver a variety of fuels ranging from gasoline to liquid propane gas (LPG) to kerosene and diesel. The costs associated with this effort are not limited to the price of the fuel. The company incurs costs for transportation, storage, distribution, quality assurance, and labor required to manage the operation. Including these mentioned expenses as well as the price of the fuel and the company's two percent fee, the average cost for the mission is approximately $1.59 per gallon. "

Sounds like they are being pretty open and honest about it to me. I'll wait for an investigation or whatever, but I'm not the one that rabidly jumps to conclusions everytime some muckracker puts a story out.

PS: Didn't you mean the life of every stupid american solider?

Only if you're the American soldier I'm referring to.
 

BOBDN

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Only if you're the American soldier I'm referring to.
Nope, I'm just one of the millions of common stupid americans you refer to so often

Well, you admit you're stupid so yes, if I'm referring to stupid Americans (which I'm not but if I did) I'd be by your own admission referring to you.

It's a start. Admitting you have a problem, whether it's drug abuse or stupidity or both, it's the first step in starting to solve the problem.

But I don't hold out much hope for you. I think you may very well be terminally stupid.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: alchemize
Only if you're the American soldier I'm referring to.
Nope, I'm just one of the millions of common stupid americans you refer to so often

Well, you admit you're stupid so yes, if I'm referring to stupid Americans (which I'm not but if I did) I'd be by your own admission referring to you.

It's a start. Admitting you have a problem, whether it's drug abuse or stupidity or both, it's the first step in starting to solve the problem.

But I don't hold out much hope for you. I think you may very well be terminally stupid.

I find it difficult if not impossible to believe ANY AMERICAN can support such actions by people in or out of government.
And Americans need to wake up to these facts
Only a complete fool would fall for such a ridiculous excuse such as this.
Want me to find more? Don't even get me started on the stupid soldier...
 

DealMonkey

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Since a Congressional Research Service report concluded that federal ethics laws treat Vice President Cheney's annual deferred compensation checks and unexercised stock options as continuing financial interests in the Halliburton Co., I'm waiting for some org to sue Cheney for ethics violations. Maybe the GAO can file suit and/or investigate this once and for all.

 

BOBDN

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: alchemize
Only if you're the American soldier I'm referring to.
Nope, I'm just one of the millions of common stupid americans you refer to so often

Well, you admit you're stupid so yes, if I'm referring to stupid Americans (which I'm not but if I did) I'd be by your own admission referring to you.

It's a start. Admitting you have a problem, whether it's drug abuse or stupidity or both, it's the first step in starting to solve the problem.

But I don't hold out much hope for you. I think you may very well be terminally stupid.

I find it difficult if not impossible to believe ANY AMERICAN can support such actions by people in or out of government.
And Americans need to wake up to these facts
Only a complete fool would fall for such a ridiculous excuse such as this.
Want me to find more? Don't even get me started on the stupid soldier...

No where in the first two quotes do I refer to Americans as stupid. The third quote was in response to your own admission of stupidity.

And you can get started on any damn thing you like. I really don't give a sh!t.

You can take anything you like out of context. Doing so only lessens your already miniscule credibility.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: BOBDN
Originally posted by: alchemize
Only if you're the American soldier I'm referring to.
Nope, I'm just one of the millions of common stupid americans you refer to so often

Well, you admit you're stupid so yes, if I'm referring to stupid Americans (which I'm not but if I did) I'd be by your own admission referring to you.

It's a start. Admitting you have a problem, whether it's drug abuse or stupidity or both, it's the first step in starting to solve the problem.

But I don't hold out much hope for you. I think you may very well be terminally stupid.

I find it difficult if not impossible to believe ANY AMERICAN can support such actions by people in or out of government.
And Americans need to wake up to these facts
Only a complete fool would fall for such a ridiculous excuse such as this.
Want me to find more? Don't even get me started on the stupid soldier...

No where in the first two quotes do I refer to Americans as stupid. The third quote was in response to your own admission of stupidity.

And you can get started on any damn thing you like. I really don't give a sh!t.

You can take anything you like out of context. Doing so only lessens your already miniscule credibility.

That's right every spittle filled insult you've ever tossed out at any slice of population (often the majority) that doesn't agree with you was taken out of context. And every spittle filled insult you've tossed at the everyday soldier was taken out of context also. You're not fooling anyone but yourself.
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You drool more than my teething 9 month old.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Since a Congressional Research Service report concluded that federal ethics laws treat Vice President Cheney's annual deferred compensation checks and unexercised stock options as continuing financial interests in the Halliburton Co., I'm waiting for some org to sue Cheney for ethics violations. Maybe the GAO can file suit and/or investigate this once and for all.

2 different issues...can't you separate them? Or do you buy into BOOB's "war profiteering" cabal theory?
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Yahoo 10-29-03

Halliburton was charging only $1.22 per gallon to import gasoline from Turkey into Iraq, Waxman and Dingell said.

As of Oct. 19, Halliburton had imported 61.3 million gallons of gasoline from Kuwait into Iraq, and the company was paid $162.5 million for an average price of $2.65 a gallon, Waxman and Dingell wrote.

The Iraqi oil company SOMO is paying only 97 cents a gallon to import gasoline from Kuwait to Iraq, they said.

I bet we could get a good deal from Iran . . .