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Report: Iran Seizes British Naval Vessels

conjur

No Lifer
UPDATE: 6/23/04:
Release of UK Detainees in Iran Likely Thursday-TV

UPDATE: 6/22/04:
Iran to Prosecute British Sailors - Iranian TV

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123233,00.html

Iranian state television reported Monday that Iranian forces had seized three British naval vessels on the Iraqi border and arrested their crews, according to wire reports.

Iran's Arabic-language al-Alam news channel reported that the boats had been seized on the Shatt al-Arab waterway (search), where the Tigris and Euphrates rivers empty into the Persian Gulf and which also serves as the southernmost border between Iraq and Iran.

"The Iranian navy has confiscated three British boats that entered Iranian territorial waters" Sky News' Web site quoted an Iranian official as telling al-Alam, "arresting the crew of eight people."

The sources added that "weapons and maps" had been found on the boats, and that the crews had admitted making a "mistake."

It also said the ships were confiscated at about 11 a.m. (2:30 a.m. EDT) between the Bahmanshir and Arvand rivers, which would put them in the Shatt al-Arab east of the Iraqi city of Faw. The broadcast gave no further details.

Britain's Ministry of Defense said it was looking into the report. A spokesman said on condition of anonymity that there were no British warships on the Shatt al-Arab, but that there were some smaller craft there.

"We are assisting the Iraqi water police there so it may be one of those vessels," he said. "We don't know."

The exact location of the Iraq-Iran border on the Shatt al-Arab has often been contested by both countries, and the area was the scene of heavy fighting during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War (search).

Iraq has been under pressure from Western countries in recent months to disclose more details about its possible nuclear-weapons program.



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Originally posted by: conjur
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123233,00.html

Iranian state television reported Monday that Iranian forces had seized three British naval vessels on the Iraqi border and arrested their crews, according to wire reports.

Iran's Arabic-language al-Alam news channel reported that the boats had been seized on the Shatt al-Arab waterway (search), where the Tigris and Euphrates rivers empty into the Persian Gulf and which also serves as the southernmost border between Iraq and Iran.

"The Iranian navy has confiscated three British boats that entered Iranian territorial waters" Sky News' Web site quoted an Iranian official as telling al-Alam, "arresting the crew of eight people."

The sources added that "weapons and maps" had been found on the boats, and that the crews had admitted making a "mistake."

It also said the ships were confiscated at about 11 a.m. (2:30 a.m. EDT) between the Bahmanshir and Arvand rivers, which would put them in the Shatt al-Arab east of the Iraqi city of Faw. The broadcast gave no further details.

Britain's Ministry of Defense said it was looking into the report. A spokesman said on condition of anonymity that there were no British warships on the Shatt al-Arab, but that there were some smaller craft there.

"We are assisting the Iraqi water police there so it may be one of those vessels," he said. "We don't know."

The exact location of the Iraq-Iran border on the Shatt al-Arab has often been contested by both countries, and the area was the scene of heavy fighting during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War (search).

Iraq has been under pressure from Western countries in recent months to disclose more details about its possible nuclear-weapons program.



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I'm assuming that the last line is a typo and they meant to say:

Iran has been under pressure from Western countries in recent months to disclose more details about its possible nuclear-weapons program.

Just because it would suck to know that we have all those troops in Iraq and still couldn't stop them from developing nukes. 😛
 
Nice. Once in a while the good guys get caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

If it were a black op, there would be no nation to refer to. In other words, the Iranians wouldn't know the nationality of the peeps they captured and GB would be disowning them.

So, it could be a lost captain? Prolly a career ending move by him.
 
SBS?
Funny how when the good guys get caught its just their hand in the cookie jar ..but the other way around..UH OH.
 
but sea bass with frickin' lasers attached to their heads

You forgot 'ill-tempered.'

I dunno...this could have been a spec ops team skirting around looking for intel, then again the Iranians have been kinda jumpy about their borders ever since the beginning of the invasion. I recall hearing about British Tornadoes coming under fire from Iranian AA batteries whilst patrolling over Iraq.
 
let's go Georgie boy! let's get them ayatollahs...
our boys are next door already, no point paying another return ticket
 
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran will prosecute eight British naval personnel seized in its waters, state television said on Tuesday, turning what seemed a minor border incident into a serious diplomatic spat.

The British government immediately demanded an explanation from Tehran of the television report. British officials have had neither access to the men, detained on Monday with their three boats, nor told where they are being held.

Quoting unnamed Iranian military sources, Iran's Arabic language news channel al Alam said the men would be prosecuted on charges of "illegally entering Iran's waters."

"The British confessed that they were arrested when they were inside Iran's waters," it said.

A Foreign Office spokesman in London said British officials were "trying to get the Iranians to explain" the report.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair's spokesman said: "We want to resolve this situation as quickly as possible ... We have asked for full details and access to them."

Iranian officials have neither confirmed nor denied the al Alam report on prosecuting the Britons. Political analysts doubt Iran will press charges.

"There is nothing in Iran's interests to go prosecuting these people," said Ali Ansari, Middle East expert at University of Exeter, who pointed out that Britain, unlike the United States, has tried to engage with Iran's leaders in recent years.

"I think there'll be a couple of high-level contacts ... There'll be a bit of diplomatic toing-and-froing, then they'll be released ... in a matter of days," he said.

Iran's Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi has told British counterpart Jack Straw he would personally look into the matter.

SEIZED BRITONS WERE TRAINING IRAQIS
Al Alam broadcast footage showing the British men dressed in military fatigues sitting in a room.
It said their small patrol boats contained weapons, cameras for spying and detailed maps of areas of Iraq and Iran. None of the Britons spoke during the broadcast.

Britain's Defense Ministry said the Britons were involved in training Iraqi police and had been delivering a small craft to the Iraqi Riverine Patrol Service when arrested. The boats carried only the sailors' personal weapons, it said.

Iran's Foreign Ministry has said the men are being interrogated to ascertain why they entered the Iranian side of the narrow Shatt al-Arab waterway separating Iran from Iraq.

A British military source acknowledged the British boats may have strayed into Iranian waters. "It was quite a confused situation. The weather was appalling and this happened in a confined stretch of water," he said.

Britain has had a rocky relationship with Iran since the 1979 Islamic revolution and tensions have flared again in recent months over Britain's involvement in Iraq and its criticism of Iran's cooperation with U.N. nuclear inspectors.

A senior Iranian political source said the latest incident reflected internal policy divisions in the Islamic state.

While deeply opposed to the U.S.-led war and occupation of Iraq, Iran has turned a blind eye in the past to minor incursions by foreign aircraft and boats on its western border.

"The government policy is one of tolerance, but some groups are pursuing an isolationist stance," the source said.

Iran to Prosecute British Sailors - Iranian TV
 
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
let's go Georgie boy! let's get them ayatollahs...
our boys are next door already, no point paying another return ticket

Right on. Iran needs to be put in it's place too and we already have the troops over there. Once we turn over power in Iraq we can have a great launching spot for an Iran invasion.
 
As if turning over "power" to the Iraqis is going to magically free our forces up entirely to go make even more enemies elsewhere. Riiiight. You have a warped concept of U.S. capabilities. We're gonna be stuck fending off the insurgents for years. Our forces are already stretched thin.
 
What will the US or British say if the Iranians put hoods over these soldiers heads and force them to start playing with their own anus... it isn't torture if they only want to get information out of them <<< that is Rumsfelds definition
 
Originally posted by: arsbanned
As if turning over "power" to the Iraqis is going to magically free our forces up entirely to go make even more enemies elsewhere. Riiiight. You have a warped concept of U.S. capabilities. We're gonna be stuck fending off the insurgents for years. Our forces are already stretched thin.

His intelligence comes from God.. no need for him to worry 😛

Yes our forces are stretched thin... so thin that we are paying other countries like Tonga and South Korea to send in forces to help us... But don't tell that to the Bush Fanboys.
 
What will the US or British say if the Iranians put hoods over these soldiers heads and force them to start playing with their own anus... it isn't torture if they only want to get information out of them <<< that is Rumsfelds definition


Oh absolutely. I'm sure there'll be plenty of outrage on the right if that happens. :disgust:
 
These 'sailors' were packing a lot of firepower, cameras, and night-vision goggles. That settles it - these guys weren't ordinary sailors out on a training mission.
 
Originally posted by: kage69
These 'sailors' were packing a lot of firepower, cameras, and night-vision goggles. That settles it - these guys weren't ordinary sailors out on a training mission.

Well they were travelling in pseudo-hostile waters, and probably had reasons to be prepared for the conditions they might encounter (like 'night'). I tend to suspect they were up to something as well, but I don't think it's fair to call it settled...
 
i think we should play tough with these fuggers until their regime collapses, and make it clear we want cooperation with the iraq project and sealed borders or else.
 
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