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Replacing the linoleum in my extra bathroom/kitchen with tile.

Scarpozzi

Scarpozzi

Lifer
Linoleum on concrete. I pulled it up and it came apart and had all kinds of glue, gunk, etc on the concrete. What should I use to clean it up? I'm not sure what to use other than muratic acid.

I figured I could just tile directly over the concrete without putting down backerboard or ditra.

Thanks-
 
Use Krud Kutter, a putty knife and a little bit of time. You might want to etch it with the acid after the glue removal.

Yes there is no need for backerboard.
 
I use a replaceable blade scraper to get the crap up.

Have also found getting the floor wet helps, and I use a steam cleaner lately...
 
At home depot or other big hardware store, look for a floor scraper. I don't know if that is the specific name. It has a long metal handle and a metal blade large enough to push with your foot (like a shovel). Blade is about 14" or so wide, and about 8" deep.
Use a putty knife and you'll still be scraping in the next presidential election.
 
GL! I've done my kitchen backsplash and around a bathtub, but knew the floor would take so long I'd be without a kitchen for a while, so i've not taken that on yet 😉
 
Originally posted by: Subbaculcha
At home depot or other big hardware store, look for a floor scraper. I don't know if that is the specific name. It has a long metal handle and a metal blade large enough to push with your foot (like a shovel). Blade is about 14" or so wide, and about 8" deep.
Use a putty knife and you'll still be scraping in the next presidential election.
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Those things are worthless imo.
 
Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Originally posted by: Subbaculcha
At home depot or other big hardware store, look for a floor scraper. I don't know if that is the specific name. It has a long metal handle and a metal blade large enough to push with your foot (like a shovel). Blade is about 14" or so wide, and about 8" deep.
Use a putty knife and you'll still be scraping in the next presidential election.
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Those things are worthless imo.
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Agreed, particularly in small areas, like a bathroom.

I use a much smaller one, about 12" long...
 
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Linoleum on concrete. I pulled it up and it came apart and had all kinds of glue, gunk, etc on the concrete. What should I use to clean it up? I'm not sure what to use other than muratic acid.

I figured I could just tile directly over the concrete without putting down backerboard or ditra.

Thanks-
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Is it possible to lay tile on the linoleum?
 
Personally, I wouldn't worry if there was a little bit of glue left... as long as you get it as smooth as possible and thin as possible. What's more important is good adhesion by the glue and a uniform glue thickness so the tile is level and air pockets are minimized under the tile.
 
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Is it possible to lay tile on the linoleum?
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Yes, but make sure it is glued down well and use a latex modified mortar for laying the tile.
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Are you certain about this?? Seems like a half ass way to do it but it would definitely save time and labor.
 
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Is it possible to lay tile on the linoleum?
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Yes, but make sure it is glued down well and use a latex modified mortar for laying the tile.
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I like it. I have 2 bathrooms and a kitchen to do. I'll start with smaller bathroom and update on how it comes out.

Thanks :thumbsup:

 
Originally posted by: PanzerIV
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Is it possible to lay tile on the linoleum?
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Yes, but make sure it is glued down well and use a latex modified mortar for laying the tile.
Click to expand...

Are you certain about this?? Seems like a half ass way to do it but it would definitely save time and labor.
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It is an acceptable, common, fully assed professional practice. Some would argue that it is also smarter to leave the old flooring rather than disturb it and eat / breathe its dust.
 
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: PanzerIV
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Is it possible to lay tile on the linoleum?
Click to expand...

Yes, but make sure it is glued down well and use a latex modified mortar for laying the tile.
Click to expand...

Are you certain about this?? Seems like a half ass way to do it but it would definitely save time and labor.
Click to expand...



It is an acceptable, common, fully assed professional practice. Some would argue that it is also smarter to leave the old flooring rather than disturb it and eat / breathe its dust.
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LOL. I wasn't arguing the point I am all for it if it's easier and I don't have to deal with the labor, mess, etc. that you also pointed out. I wanted to know if it was standard practice because that will make doing my kitchen and utility room much easier.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Linoleum on concrete. I pulled it up and it came apart and had all kinds of glue, gunk, etc on the concrete. What should I use to clean it up? I'm not sure what to use other than muratic acid.

I figured I could just tile directly over the concrete without putting down backerboard or ditra.

Thanks-
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Is it possible to lay tile on the linoleum?
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No.
It's got to come up. The floor doesn't have to be perfectly clean by any means. If the bulk of linoleum is gone, the base will be fine.

 
We just put in some new tiles in the downstairs bathroom. I didnt have to clean anything cause we did it a while ago with a ice breaker (yay!).

I dont think you have to break your ass trying to get every spot of glue out. As long as its relatively clean and flat its ok.
 
Originally posted by: PanzerIV
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: PanzerIV
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Is it possible to lay tile on the linoleum?
Click to expand...

Yes, but make sure it is glued down well and use a latex modified mortar for laying the tile.
Click to expand...

Are you certain about this?? Seems like a half ass way to do it but it would definitely save time and labor.
Click to expand...



It is an acceptable, common, fully assed professional practice. Some would argue that it is also smarter to leave the old flooring rather than disturb it and eat / breathe its dust.
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LOL. I wasn't arguing the point I am all for it if it's easier and I don't have to deal with the labor, mess, etc. that you also pointed out. I wanted to know if it was standard practice because that will make doing my kitchen and utility room much easier.
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Oh, I didn't take it that way...just wanted to let you know that it is a common practice.

🙂



Oh, and just to clarify for anyone else...we're talking Ceramic Tile as the new surface. If vinyl is going in, it's a whole other ball game.
 
I wouldn't put ceramic over linoleum unless I was worried about it having asbestos. If I did I would definately rough up the surface.

Linoleum is generally very easy to remove with a heat gun, putty knife and some Krud Kutter.
 
I used an (Stand up kind)Ice chisel and then sanded the floor flat before laying down the lanoleum.

Make sure you get the correct adhesive for concrete flooring also.

Ausm
 
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