Replacing brakes on a car

[everman]

Sounds like bait and switch.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: everman
Sounds like bait and switch.

oooh, crack that whip!

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: everman

Originally posted by: JS80
$489 to replace rotors and brake pads for the front brakes. My backside is majorly sore.

wtf do you drive, a Maybach?

if he did all 4 brakes, then that isn't bad

1997 Toyota 4Runner. Apparently these only have front brakes.

ORLY?

lol, my friend, you have more to learn about brakes. go look behind your rear wheels, see that odd colored round thing thats ribbed on the outside? inside that is your rear brakes

if they are Drums in the rear, there is no way a first timer is going to easily do these.

Drum brakes are easy to do.

 

Get ready to grab the KY!! It's insane for all the Japanese cars/trucks. My friend's wife had a Subaru and a few years ago, he and I decide to do the brakes on it, and on my Jeep Grand Cherokee. We go to one parts store and I get two front rotors, pads, shoes for the back brakes, and some of that goop that stops brake squeal. I think it was about 85 bucks all together. He goes up and gets pretty much the same parts, and it was almost exactly 3 times as much, and that was for relined pads, versus my new ones. Not long after we did the brakes, the motor spun a bearing, and he bought her a Mitsu Eclipse. The parts weren't as bad as on the Subaru, but were still high.

Only cost me $200 and change for front pads + rotors + labor and all taxes included on my 2004 Subaru.

 

[OrganizedChaos]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: everman

Originally posted by: JS80
$489 to replace rotors and brake pads for the front brakes. My backside is majorly sore.

wtf do you drive, a Maybach?

if he did all 4 brakes, then that isn't bad

1997 Toyota 4Runner. Apparently these only have front brakes.

ORLY?

lol, my friend, you have more to learn about brakes. go look behind your rear wheels, see that odd colored round thing thats ribbed on the outside? inside that is your rear brakes

if they are Drums in the rear, there is no way a first timer is going to easily do these.

i'm not so sure on that. if the front end end on his 4runner is like my explorer he'd be better off learning to do drums first. drums are easy as long as you do one at a time, you can always look at the other side to see how things are connected. on my explorer however the wheel bearing races are part of the rotor. torque those wrong and he could lose the whole wheel.

what happens when wheel bearings grenade on an explorer, his toyota may use a similar setup

another example

 

[JS80]

I am a city boy. I know nothing about fixing cars. Not even changing oil. I pay $12.50 to change it.

 

[OrganizedChaos]

Originally posted by: JS80
I am a city boy. I know nothing about fixing cars. Not even changing oil. I pay $12.50 to change it.

with filter? damn. i usually change my own but for that price i'd pay it.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos

Originally posted by: JS80
I am a city boy. I know nothing about fixing cars. Not even changing oil. I pay $12.50 to change it.

with filter? damn. i usually change my own but for that price i'd pay it.

What's a filter?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos

Originally posted by: JS80
I am a city boy. I know nothing about fixing cars. Not even changing oil. I pay $12.50 to change it.

with filter? damn. i usually change my own but for that price i'd pay it.

WalMart Tire and Lube FTW!

 

[LS20]

500$ for brakes!!! i swear, gimme 150$, ill do rotors and pads on all 4 wheels in 1 hr . jesus christ thats a rip off

 

[CFster]

Factory labor time to R&R front brake pads is 1.1 hrs for a 97 4Runner. To R&R the front rotors is an additional 0.9 hrs. To "turn" the rotors is an additional 0.4 hrs each (which I wouldn't recommend to anybody).

Dealer Price for pads (part# 0446535240) is $43.68.

Dealer Price for rotors (part# 4351204020 without 16" rims) is $95.77 ea
Dealer Price for rotors (part# 4351235210 with 16" rims) is $91.57 ea

My repair database software is flaky - I'm not sure (while not at work) if those prices are jobber or list. They might be 25% more than that.

Regardless, the only way I can make it equal $489 is with about a $97/hr labor rate (assuming the higher parts prices). Of course there's also all those bogus EPA charges they like to throw in as well...

I swear dealerships are just out to rape people.

 

[MrBlahh]

Brakes are easy money for a mechanic. They are quick, easy and they make a lot of money off of them.

Where did he get that $500 figure from? They shouldnt take a mechanic more than an hour to change so thats $75 (tobs?) for labor. Rotors are like $50 each, pads about the same for both.

Everyone should know how to change their oil and their brakes (at least disk, drum are a pain)

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: CFster
Factory labor time to R&R front brake pads is 1.1 hrs for a 97 4Runner. To R&R the front rotors is an additional 0.9 hrs. To "turn" the rotors is an additional 0.4 hrs each (which I wouldn't recommend to anybody).

Dealer Price for pads (part# 0446535240) is $43.68.

Dealer Price for rotors (part# 4351204020 without 16" rims) is $95.77 ea
Dealer Price for rotors (part# 4351235210 with 16" rims) is $91.57 ea

My repair database software is flaky - I'm not sure (while not at work) if those prices are jobber or list. They might be 25% more than that.

Regardless, the only way I can make it equal $489 is with about a $97/hr labor rate (assuming the higher parts prices). Of course there's also all those bogus EPA charges they like to throw in as well...

I swear dealerships are just out to rape people.

Yup, EPA fees + taxes (CA). $80/hr labor.